600 to 1000 conversion

I searched couldn't find anything maybe I missed something but, Does anyone know if it is possible to put a 1000 engine in a 600rr like what I need to change etc... 

buy a 1000rr it's cheaper

its actually not my friend wrecked his 1000 bad sold parts off it and i took the frame and engine off his hands for $300 and the other cbr I have the engine is blown on it. so it all works out. i know it possible just need to find the info. trying to look for it as i post this comment.

I would still be cheaper to buy a 1000rr.  You'd have to custom make, fabricate or buy SO many parts, even if you used 1000rr frame you'll come out behind what you would just picking up a cheap 1000rr. 

But isn't the point of this forum to do wild and crazy stuff like this??????

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ORIGINAL: Jason748

I would still be cheaper to buy a 1000rr.  You'd have to custom make, fabricate or buy SO many parts, even if you used 1000rr frame you'll come out behind what you would just picking up a cheap 1000rr. 

ok so you are telling me its going to take more than 8,000 dollars to do this conversion? the 1000  is an 06  so is my 600 it cant cost more then 2,000 dollars. 3,000 max and still come out winning because them bike cost over 10 grand... i have 4 bikes

91 honda cbr600 F2
05 honda cbr600
06 honda cbr600 blown engine (actually took it off my cousin for less then 2 thousand)
06 honda cbr1000 frame and engine only

To do it the right way I'd say around $4000 - $5000 all said & done with the little issues worked out or maybe $2000 - $3000 if you have full access to a machine & fab shop, add that to the $2000 you already spent on the 600rr.  And this time of the year you can pick up a nice 06-07 1000rr for between $6000 - $7000 if you're patient and you'll be ready to go.  But you should be able to find a good 600rr motor that will drop in for $500 - $1000.  Then you should be able to sell the 1000rr motor for about the same and the frame for another $500 or so.  You tell me which will be cheaper in the end?  I've done enough motor conversion in the past ten years to know that with modern frames, it not just as simple as making a couple of motor adaptor plates, welding them in and bolting the new motor in.
 
Now if you said you were doing it just because & costs be damned then I'd be saying go for it.

    IF every single frame hole bolted up the same place
and the engine dimensions were the same
and the ecu and wiring harness and all the sensors were the same
it would bolt in
it was like putting the zx9 motors in a zx7
that supposedly wasnt that hard because the only thing that was different was the engine pistons.

now with our bikes every place that the mounting points are different you are going to have to spend the money to do the R&D, engineering, and fabrication of a bracket that not only fits but is strong enough to hold everything up.

i have both bikes. the dimensions are way too different

but with enough money and know how anything is possible

There's an engine in this thread. If its not already sold.

http://www.cbrforum.com/m_429193/tm.htm

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Does anyone know if it is possible to put a 1000 engine in a 600rr like what I need to change etc... 

 
Anything is possible, but not everything that is possible is practical. Go buy a literbike if that is what you want.

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ORIGINAL: fishfryer527

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Does anyone know if it is possible to put a 1000 engine in a 600rr like what I need to change etc... 

Anything is possible, but not everything that is possible is practical. Go buy a literbike if that is what you want.

I think you guys are missing the point.  Would I do it?  Probably not.  But am I going to disssuade him from doing it? No.

do what you want to do man.  it will take a good bit of fabricating and a decent amount of money.  but if i was to ask anyone on this forum about fabrication it would be rsp919. 

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But isn't the point of this forum to do wild and crazy stuff like this??????

 

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I think you guys are missing the point.  Would I do it?  Probably not.  But am I going to disssuade him from doing it? No.

 
Point taken....Maybe the way to go is sell the 600RR and then build the 1000RR using all high end stuff like brembo, ohlins...?

I'm thinking the 600RR chassis and suspension wouldn't know WTF to do with all the extra power and weight, and you'll end up with an extremely twitchy bike on your hands. The components bolted onto the 600RR were designed for an engine of 105-ish hp, not 160-ish. That would be my only concern.

And I agree with Fryer, selling the 600RR and building up a 1000RR with the good stuff is a great idea. THAT's a project alone, versus the hell you would go through converting the 600RR.

But that's just my two pennies in the tray.

I like the idea alot, but it's to much work IMO.  If you want a 1000RR sell the other bikes and go get a nice 1000 that is ready to go.

I think your idea kicks ass! Practical, no... cost effective, no.. but really, think about it.. small nimble 600 frame that weighs nothing, with a ton of power, like, way more then it should. Sounds like a hell of a good time to me. I think your biggest problem is going to be getting the engine to sit right. Honda does tons of R&D on the exact position of the engine in the frame, cause it emits force. they try to position it so that it doesnt disturb the bike in corners or under heave acceleration... if you dont get it in right, its going to fly up like hell, and be unbalanced in corners... just make sure you wear a full suit when you take her out, and send me pictures cause im hella interested.