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muckdawg24
4/3/2008 7:11:31 AM
Doing my change over today. Will post some pics for everybody and let you know the results!
ffingers
4/3/2008 7:42:09 AM
definitely post, i would be curious to see how this turned out for you....also see if you feel any lever change...!!
StreetPower
4/3/2008 8:29:53 AM
i'm interested as i wait it, reservoir, calipers and even lever to arrive soon!
muckdawg24
4/3/2008 3:33:10 PM
Ok, so I got my brake reservoir in from P3 Racing, it was $25 or $20 shipped and I had it in two days. Part# if you are interested is 17-959. I had to use a longer bolt for the top collar of the m/c where it clamps down on the handlebars so that I could mount the reservoir there. I have a pic of that. You will notice that the hose is a hair short for the application as it's being pulled somewhat, I may get a longer one. FYI, the F4 brake lever won't match up with the 929/954 m/c, I already tried.

Anyways, the difference is real noticable compared to the stock m/c. The brakes engage a lot quicker now. I am very happy with it. Lever feels more like my brother's r6 with s/s lines. Total cost: $70.





TBFGhost
4/3/2008 7:38:05 PM
I don't know where you are, but I hate you b/c I see green in your photos....
muckdawg24
4/4/2008 6:00:59 AM
Sunny Orlando, FL my friend.
Tahoe SC
4/4/2008 7:26:30 AM
great job...you like the feel of the pee cup style or no?
muckdawg24
4/5/2008 9:31:07 AM

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tahoe SC

great job...you like the feel of the pee cup style or no?


I didn't know the cup had anything to do with it. I do like how the stock reservoir mounted low on the bar, but I will take the better m/c any day.
04_CBR
4/6/2008 4:32:23 AM
Obviously no clearance issues? And all you need for this is the cup, mount and longer bolt to make this work? 
muckdawg24
4/6/2008 2:32:29 PM
No clearance issues, dang close to touching but it doesn't. Don't need a mount as you can mount it to the m/c collar that goes around the handlebars.
Any other questions let me know.

Now if it would quit raining so I could ride I would happy!
ffingers
4/7/2008 7:21:36 AM
so how much this run you and what exactly do you need....the cup, a new M/C right?
some guy #2
4/7/2008 8:18:59 AM
And the brake lever for a 929 or 954 (those might be interchangeable) since the f4i brake lever will not fit
muckdawg24
4/7/2008 10:38:49 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: ffingers

so how much this run you and what exactly do you need....the cup, a new M/C right?

 
Gonna need a 929/954 master cylinder, cup assembly, and brake lever off a 929/954.  Also a 5-8mm longer bolt for mounting the reservoir cup on the collar on the m/c assembly.  My total cost was $70.
 
FYI, to rebuild the assembly is only $30, so even if you get a really used m/c you can get the kit and make it like new.
StreetPower
4/17/2008 3:47:00 AM
i'm finishing to mount it all today or tomorrow. guys primed the lever, i will paint it black to match and mount altogether. i'm using the whole m/c assy together with the stock bracket. the reservoir will be much higher than pictured, i will look what i can do with it to mount it lower. so far, no clearance issues with the whole assembly .
muckdawg24
4/17/2008 7:17:34 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: apkraven

i'm finishing to mount it all today or tomorrow. guys primed the lever, i will paint it black to match and mount altogether. i'm using the whole m/c assy together with the stock bracket. the reservoir will be much higher than pictured, i will look what i can do with it to mount it lower. so far, no clearance issues with the whole assembly .

 
Post some pics, I wanna see how yours turns out!
axsys
4/17/2008 1:19:47 PM
so the stock f4i line and bolt went into the master just fine? i just got some galfer lines and i dont know if other master cyclinders use different diameter bolts/banjos than the f4i....
StreetPower
4/17/2008 2:27:00 PM
axsys, they 're all the same, well maybe some not, but it will fit for sure. to install the mс from the 929/954
you should have:
-m/c
-brake lever(it's longer and less bent than f4i's and they aren't compatible)
-the 929 bracket with reservoir or any other radial reservoir.

btw, some interesting stuff. while interchanging the calipers, i found that the brake pads for 954 are different. they at least differ by having the perforated metal sheet from the back(i would assume it could do a bit of additional cooling) and maybe compound. i'm thinking it could be beneficial for braking. have an idea, that 954 pads (maybe aftermarket ones) would be more grabby and cooler running that similar f4i stock.
what do you think, guys?
some guy #2
4/17/2008 10:50:00 PM
Do you mean the 954 stock pads have the preforated metal sheet on the back of them?  I just installed EBC HH pads for my f4i and they had that on them.  I think the calipers/pads are interchangeable between 929/954/f4i.
StreetPower
4/18/2008 12:34:51 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: some guy #2

Do you mean the 954 stock pads have the preforated metal sheet on the back of them?  I just installed EBC HH pads for my f4i and they had that on them.  I think the calipers/pads are interchangeable between 929/954/f4i.


yes they have it. and yes, both the calipers and the pads are interchangeable(i'm finishing installing today), but still someone that doesn't like the sense of buying aftermarket pads could benefit from buying the 954 pads.. but the compound could be more agressive and hard on the brake rotors, which cool more slowly than those big ones from 954, so in some cases it could do only worse...
StreetPower
4/19/2008 2:41:59 AM
painted 954 lever

nice pic of the caliper

side view of the m/c

front view

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