tweak mt
4/10/2006 10:23:59 PM
ok ive had D 208's and there just about toast down the center of the tire after 4000 miles.
1. First i need to get more miles out of the tire
2. I have used 100% of the span of the tred in the twisties
3. I know i dont take these to the edge of performance...im not smokin the rear tire in the turns
4. are there any tires that are made of a hard compound on the center of the tire and softer on the outside since 85% of the time is commuting on flat roads.
5. number one goal is to not crash i dont want to comprimise myself by being cheap but at the same time i think i could give up a little performance of the tire in exchange for endurance because i am not pushing the tire to the limits.
6. target milage....6000-8000 is it possible?
give me a couple brands that would compete in this sort of catagory.
people have mentioned the avon 45/46, metzler m3 but i just didnt know what the performance was like on them...anyone got an article on this anywhere?
NotSoMellowYellow
4/10/2006 11:28:37 PM
I have metsler and they have 3000-3500 miles on them now they have a big chicken strip in the center thanks to my ride to dallas. I wouldn't go with metzlers agan I'm gonna try pilot powers next but I here they are even softer, however I am taking the curves hard (when I can find them)and softer is better for that. I saw a web site for tires that were made with 3 different hardnesses Hard middle softer as they got to the edges you could select the type you want they had several different cobo's to choose from but I can't find it anywhere anyone know this site or the brand. also anyone know how to round the tire off other than hard turns. Im in kansas and the turns are hard to come by and the flat spot in the center is gettin pretty bad but the tire is still not worn out.
cbr04
4/10/2006 11:41:07 PM
i read the dunlop d220's are pretty good for people who "take longer rides". it's harder down the middle with softer sides.
Jet Jockey Z06 Vette
4/11/2006 7:44:38 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: NotSoMellowYellow
I have metsler and they have 3000-3500 miles on them now they have a big chicken strip in the center thanks to my ride to dallas. I wouldn't go with metzlers agan I'm gonna try pilot powers next but I here they are even softer, however I am taking the curves hard (when I can find them)and softer is better for that. I saw a web site for tires that were made with 3 different hardnesses Hard middle softer as they got to the edges you could select the type you want they had several different cobo's to choose from but I can't find it anywhere anyone know this site or the brand. also anyone know how to round the tire off other than hard turns. Im in kansas and the turns are hard to come by and the flat spot in the center is gettin pretty bad but the tire is still not worn out.
As a newbie, wondering what the ride feels like once the tires begin to get worn in the center? Is there a stronger "transitional moment" as you roll into a turn? Or is it basically difficult to feel any difference?
Thanks!
Tahoe SC
4/11/2006 10:42:55 AM
no mang...you'll feel the difference...basically...you have less contact surface when you're in the turn...and you may even feel a slight slip before the tire grips again getting over the little edge that has formed between the flat part of the tire to the side of the tire.
as far as mileage in the 6-8K and plenty of stick...i'll say diablos (but i doubt you'll get 6-8K out of them) or diablo stradas. The stradas are supposed to be just as sticky as the diablos with harder middle.
isolated1523
4/11/2006 6:48:02 PM
People will say i'm crazy...but i rode alot of highway miles last year, and i got almost 9,000 miles out of my stock Dunlop 208's. I'm running Pirelli Diablos now, doesn't look like they're gonna hold up quite as long....
-Adam
13brsxsrr
4/11/2006 9:30:18 PM
I put almost 10k mi on a rear pilot power. I ran 34f/40r psi last summer. The composition of the road you ride on will eat up softer tires too.
jwp6114
4/11/2006 10:02:55 PM
i have a diablo strada rear (rear only stock front) is this bad??? i know you should have the same type tire on front and rear, rear tire got vandalized (stuck with a blade in centre) so i got the strada. i love it, its so sticky. i have only put about 1000-1200 miles on it. when the rear wears down i am planning to change the front and rear to the diablo strada's, i like them. im no expert but just by feeling it, it does feel a little harder in the centre. 120 miles today.
tweak mt
4/11/2006 10:48:08 PM
jwp anyware on the tires at the moment
Jeff22
4/11/2006 11:34:58 PM
I have a micheline pilot and i love it....sticks good too
cbr04
4/12/2006 12:04:44 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: isolated1523
People will say i'm crazy...but i rode alot of highway miles last year, and i got almost 9,000 miles out of my stock Dunlop 208's. I'm running Pirelli Diablos now, doesn't look like they're gonna hold up quite as long....
-Adam
wow... that's damn good for D208's! my bike is in the shop right now getting some qualifiers put on. i ride a lot of highway miles too and my rear (D208) was BALD in the center.... only got 4300 miles out of it.
tweak mt
4/12/2006 2:34:07 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: cbr04
quote:
ORIGINAL: isolated1523
People will say i'm crazy...but i rode alot of highway miles last year, and i got almost 9,000 miles out of my stock Dunlop 208's. I'm running Pirelli Diablos now, doesn't look like they're gonna hold up quite as long....
-Adam
wow... that's damn good for D208's! my bike is in the shop right now getting some qualifiers put on. i ride a lot of highway miles too and my rear (D208) was BALD in the center.... only got 4300 miles out of it.
what are you having put on this time CBR04?
DThompson
4/12/2006 4:49:06 AM
I use a set of Medium Compound Battlax tires. I ride pretty hard when im by myself and the stick good enough for me
isolated1523
4/12/2006 8:27:18 AM
Yeah i dunno what the deal was lol. Might have been tire pressure (i was too noob at the time to check what it was though lol). I've had the same thing happen to me with my jeep tires. I'll get 50,000 outta one set, and then 20,000 out of the next. I'm convinced that tire pressure plays a HUGE role in tire wear, and not enough people pay attention or take the time to alter their pressures for the type of riding their gonna do for that week or month. Just my 2 cents though.
-Adam
jwp6114
4/12/2006 9:28:48 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: tweak mt
jwp anyware on the tires at the moment
no it looks verry well proportioned. well rounded. i do not abuse it at all (burn outs).
Tahoe SC
4/12/2006 2:58:57 PM
you ok with different front and back just for crusing around but i wouldn't recommend for hardcore riding.
for those who are getting 10K off a 208 or PS...stop riding in the grass mang!
cbr04
4/12/2006 4:31:16 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Tahoe SC
for those who are getting 10K off a 208 or PS...stop riding in the grass mang!
lol.. hilarious
tweak: i'm having some Dunlop Qualifiers put on - picking it up after work today. i can't wait!
crxtrixxx
4/17/2006 6:15:48 PM
Pirelli Dragon SuperCorsa Pro Race Rear Tire - SC2 - Green about 230bucks ill pay 230 a year for some good riding not to forget tires on bikes mean your life my life can spare $$$ a year
Great tires best grip ive ever had in a tire
NotSoMellowYellow
4/17/2006 11:09:13 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Tahoe SC
no mang...you'll feel the difference...basically...you have less contact surface when you're in the turn...and you may even feel a slight slip before the tire grips again getting over the little edge that has formed between the flat part of the tire to the side of the tire.
as far as mileage in the 6-8K and plenty of stick...i'll say diablos (but i doubt you'll get 6-8K out of them) or diablo stradas. The stradas are supposed to be just as sticky as the diablos with harder middle.
No crap I slip every turn, not much but it turns a 80-90 mph turn into a 60-70 mph turn. kinda sucks takes the thrill away. so I'm in the market for some new rubbers, safty first...lol. these diablos you speak of where can I find a reliable source that is not too expensive.
tweak mt
4/18/2006 12:31:35 AM
ok guys check this out
http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/ go to tire technologies...DAC
it seems like they have gone beyond just making a harder strip of rubber in the center and really optimized it
does it just seem like a bunch of hype with a marketing gimik behind it?
anyone got any idears
philly
4/18/2006 3:46:40 AM
I'll go with that. Got Pirelli Diablo Stradas on mine - brilliant tyre & last ages.
