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reasonsvoice
9/2/2007 8:30:55 AM
interesting.

reasonsvoice
9/2/2007 8:46:17 AM
I say interesting because there have been no responses to my anti-american ranting.  I'm sure there are many possibilites for this. 

I find it interesting, however, that whenever one of the members here goes on some hate-ridden tirade about "middle-easterners" there are a handful of other members stepping in to defend open-mindedness and condemn such racist remarks.  The remarks are usually based upon a video of people doing something fun and/or stupid and members here then going on some irrational rant about how they're all stupid and deserve to be bombed and blah blah blah.  It's really nothing more than a display of arrogance, ignorance and bigotry. 

I'll level with you, lvpunnk and all others who've been reading this post.  I made my comments to prove a point and I think for most, given the lack of responses, my point was proven and I'm guessing the majority of readers recognized the sarcasm represented.  Does it make sense for me to go on some anti-american rant because one guy in texas makes some foolish choices?  No, it clearly doesn't.  Does it make sense for you to say "f*** the police" because you broke the law and were treated poorly?  Does it make sense to watch an internet video of a couple guys dressed in some non-western fashion and go on a tirade about stuped middle-easterners?  NO-- none of these things make any sense at all. 

I was making a point about the intolerance of people... people who are all over this message board and countless others just like it.  People who give americans, motorcyclists, honda enthusiasts, internet users, males, etc. all a BAD NAME.

All I know is that you, lvpunnk, must have understood some of it because you apologized for your anti-police remark.  I'm quite impressed by your apology, to be honest.  I'm happy to apologize for my anti-american remarks, too, since they were made facetiously, though only somewhat. 

I do think there is an undercurrent of intolerance and self-righteousness in america that leads to fear and hatred of other cultures and a large amount of propaganda coming from the government that promotes that intolerance and self-righteousness, but that's my opinion and in general, I don't have any negative feelings towards anyone I meet, american or otherwise, until they prove, as the individual they are, that I should have some negative feelings about them.

If anyone is confused by what I've said or feels I've somehow made a fool of myself, please express that.  I don't see how I've done any such thing.

I appear to be new here.

Sorry you broke the law and had to face the consequences.  That's what happens.  It's rough.  If you don't break the law, police don't bother you.  If something bad happens to you, you can call them and they'll come help out and they're always really friendly.  But I suppose that's just my experience.
outsider8
9/2/2007 9:55:28 AM
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ORIGINAL: reasonsvoice

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ORIGINAL: pell

screw the military... Ive had a run-in or two with a couple of dicks in uniform, which means that everyone in the military is a damn tard... Makes perfect sense, right?

I will call you unintelligent. Your statement has no logic.


Also, there are three sides to every story.. Yours, theirs, and the truth. We dont know why you got roughed up by the cops, and Im pretty sure you will give us some biased story to try and kick off a pity party. I know that I have had my ass kicked by cops too, and I also know that I deserved it.



I like your point. 

To add to it, the guy was clearly one of those americans, and just like their president, they have no respect for authority and think they can get away with whatever they want.  They break laws and get pissed at the police for coming after them, yet complain when the police don't do enough after their car stereo gets stolen to "get the guy who did it".  They're arrogant and close-minded and deserve whatever comes their way.  It's a fact.  People from "that" part of the world have become so brainwashed by their government's exclusionary and fear-based propaganda regarding the alleged terrorist activities that they'll actually take their shoes off before going on an airplane, thinking that's the key to safety while our public water supplies, schools, downtown areas, etc. have little to no security whatsoever.  Could they be more stupid there in america?  The propaganda also has succeeded in making the populace afraid of anyone who even looks slightly like they might be "middle-eastern".  They've been so successful at it that the racists don't even realize they're racist and think they're in the right for hating/fearing others based on their looks!  Even better, those people have been brainwashed to not even feel a hint of remorse for their racism!  Those crazy americans!

The arrogance displayed in this video is a clear and obvious representation of the mindset of all americans and is nothing more than a reflection of the very government they adhere to.  Holier than thou, above the law, self-righteous, deserving of the hatred directed towards them from the rest of the world because they spout so much of their own.  I mean, seriously.  I've been to america a few times and I'll tell you what they're all the same, because I know, based on my omniscient observations and VAST experience.

I'm not racist, generalizing or stereotyping against americans.  It's my opinion based on my experience and I have the right to express my opinions.  I think you'll all agree that those americans deserve to be bombed...unless you're liberal or something.







 
Lvpunnk
9/2/2007 10:31:54 AM
Great, since we understand one another let's go ahead and forget about this topic and move on to what we're really here to talk about, sports bikes.
bboi
9/2/2007 2:52:17 PM
Hey guys just to shine some light on something. Ive been on for ten minutes, read three post and everyone of them involved alot more bitchin than positive posting. Come on guys we can do better!
TK954RR
9/2/2007 10:20:24 PM
What the hell i will add to the fire with a few things.
 
1. If a bike runs he deserves what he gets, my opinion of course.
2. People wonder why police abuse there power etc. maybe its because they get no respect. Hell if i put my life on the line everyday and got treated like crap or heard *&$@ the police everyday i would prolly have a hard time controlling my emotions too now and then. In case you forgot they are people too, just like you and i.
3. I respect all military, they are the reason i am here and free.
4. Reasonsvoice your a troll, there is no reason to argue with you, i dont care what you say about my country. Come back and try again when you have been here more then 3 minutes.
sixhundredrr
9/2/2007 10:51:36 PM
I don't know about any of you, but I sure as hell don't  have the balls to run like that.  Just watching that scared me.  How the hell can some people ride like that?  It only takes a split second for you to  become  a  smear on the pavement. That take down by the cop was smooth.
Squarebaj
9/2/2007 11:45:43 PM
sixhundred makes a valid point...the take down was smooth.  And more importantly, safe for the fleeing rider.  How many times have you heard stories (usually about bikes running) where the cops "almost killed the guy" by cutting a bike off, or hitting it with his car.  And of course it was the cops fault that the guy was running. 
 
Funny how some make their opinions known only using the information about a situation that reinforces their feeling, and conveniently leave out any acknowledgement of the things done in the best interest of the "innocent victim", I mean he was just riding a motorcycle, it's not like he was gonna kill anyone, right?
KidCr3nshaw
9/3/2007 5:49:37 PM
I have nothing to offer than to say I find it amusing the monkey for the U.S. military is whining about corruption at the local level...
 
Hahahaha, the guys got jokes!  Welcome to the forum, jackass!
 
I got news for ya.  Anyone group of people with authority has it's own abusers.  You only hate the police because they do it in your face.  The government hides behind media conglomerates and spin zones.
 
Talk about confused, jackass.
chadd600
9/3/2007 5:55:47 PM
Hey I saqw a chick with big tits riding 600rr the other day. Lighten up  everyone like someone posted earlier opinions are like assholes we all have them.
reasonsvoice
9/3/2007 6:05:47 PM

TK954RR-- I agree with everything you're saying except for one thing...

You missed the point I was making.  I have nothing against your country.  I think that many americans are self-righteous bigots, but I think that anywhere you go you'll run into that.  The americans I see for the most part are good people who just want an enjoyable life--exactly like the majority of people on earth--even in the middle east, folks! 

It think patriotism at times is nothing more than thinly veiled racism--this is to say that the line between being proud of who you are and where you're from easily slides into thinking you're better than other people from other places, which, in turn, is only a small step away from making judgements on people and putting them down for being who they are only because they're different from you.

 I was being sarcastic, facetious, call it what you will.  I was demonstrating how foolish it is to think a person has any right to generalize about an entire group of people based on the interactions you've had with a small handful of individuals.  I've seen a number of individuals doing exactly that on a number of threads on this forum, whether it be about women, people who are gay, people from the middle east, people who aren't white and american, etc.

I wanted to see what would happen if I made the exact same sort of remarks about an american citizen from texas.  The argument is the same--only my statements were not made in earnest, like so many other hate filled remarks here.  Take some time to look for them... in fact, I'll make it easy...

http://www.cbrforum.com/m_374789/tm.htm
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_361543/tm.htm
http://http://www.cbrforum.com/m_143122/tm.htm
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_368799/tm.htm

...just to post a few.  Keep in mind the worst of the remarks have been removed.  All I did was search for "racist" and these came up... 

Am I really the troll here?


AudiCBR
9/3/2007 6:21:54 PM
what a bitch...dont u know when your getting chased your supposed to create maximum carnage to brag....he shoulda done some cool will smith in irobot stuff and killed the cop then took off on foot...that woulda been awesome
Wildcat
9/3/2007 6:32:36 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: reasonsvoice



  I have nothing against your country. 



 
Then move on to another topic.
KidCr3nshaw
9/3/2007 7:07:02 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: reasonsvoice
...


 
I dig this dude.  Where you from man?  You've already pwn'd half the loudmouths!  Heh, I finally read the whole thread and I liked what I read from Reasons.
 
 
 
 
city worker
9/3/2007 7:17:18 PM
I can't pull up the damn vid  also I think the full moon was last week sure is alot of this anger stuff goin round on the forum, whats every body fighting about
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