Can 06 and older hang w/ the '07 GSXR600

Two of my buddies are buying 2007 GSXR 600's w/ pipes on both of them.  They are both saying they are finally going to beat me at something, lol.  Anyhow, mine's an '03 600rr   Two brothers pipe, k&n filter, PC III and 520 chain.  Dyno'd about 103 at the wheel.
 
I know at first I'll smoke them cause I've ridden bike's/4 wheelrs etc since i was about 7.  Once they learn to ride decent will they beat me at the drag strip (1/4)     I've looked and can't find much info on the 07's.
 
Thanks, Will

from my experience, no.  i have an 05 600rr and my buddy rides an old F3, hes been riding for a few years, and i bought mine a few months back.  he can spank me in a race.  since they are all 600s if you can take them off the line, ull beat them everytime

all things equal, perfect scenario, perfect riding... probably, but not by much.  in reality, it has nothing to do with the bikes since they are really so close in performance, but it is all rider.  but like i said, the best times may be .2 seconds difference between the two, maybe..

^ +1
If you beat them off the line chances are they won't catch up....

GAH!!! Ever hate it when you type out a long post and click on a link by accident... therefore coming back to losing all your work? 

Anyways... to type it up again, in a less dramatic and shorter version, 600cc bikes (599cc technically) are very close when you take the human equation out of it... but, that being said, years of technology make a big impact to. Here's my example that I experienced in real life.

(Short version.... commence!)
Out riding with some friends on my sexah '07 600rr. Meet up with a dude I'd never met before with an early-to-mid 90's GSXR 750. He goes on about how he's been riding a while, blah blah, and eventually, through our banter, he starts talkin' about an '06 Ninja 600 he'd beaten pretty recently that a friend of his owned. A guy I'm riding with says we're heading out to line them up at a local drag-spot here by one of the lakes, and he says he'd love to tag along. We get there, and he wants a shot at my '07. (I'm the only dude, as usual, rollin' a Honda. I've got an '02 GSXR 600, and a new '07 GSXR as my ridin' buddies for this trip). Anyway, after doing this impressive slow-swerving burnout to heat up his tire all nice and sticky like, I'm thinkin' "Man, I'm screwed..." but I'm gonna give him a run for his money. One of the guys counts it down, and it's go-time. Now, I can't launch to save my life... I know this... and as such, I rely on my bike's balls to make up for it. He launches hard and pulls away bad at the beginning, but, when I finally let the clutch all the way out and it's all engine, I start closing the gap. I bang second and pass him like grandma on a Sunday cruise. I pull away so much that I actually let off the throttle way before the end because I'm just wasting my gas at this point. When he rolls up he says "Man, we gotta run again, I missed second." Well... fair enough... I reply "Yeah, I was wondering there for a second!"

Round 2. Line em up again, I can't hear the guy counting down thanks to the exhaust noise... so I'm just watching the guy in the 750 to hit it. He does, and again I suck it up and launch like the slow kid in the special olympics. He pulls away on me again in first... I get the clutch let loose and punch it. I start gaining ground quickly, and BAM, I hit second again and just walk him. He's got nothin' to do but eat tail-light as I pull away again. So much so, that I, once more, back off the throttle before I had to because he had no chance of catching me.

Well, he pulls up and we take the helmets off and move our bikes out of the way of the guys who're going to give it a go next. He speaks up and says "Alright man, I've got to bow down to your 600. I had you at launch, but you just walked away from me from there on out. That thing is damn fast. I don't know why I spanked that buddy of mines 06' ninja so bad. I can't hang with you at all" I said my "Thanks" and "Don't worry about it, you had a great launch" and blah blah and after a bit we went about our buisness.

He had a bigger engine, I would bet we weighed the same, if not real close, and he could launch WAY better than I could. That being said... he was Caburated, I've got 'Supa' Sexah' fuel injection. I've probably got bike weight on my side. In the end, sure, he could have just sucked the second run too... (though he claimed he caught all his gears right), but I'm just putting in my .02 that tech can do wonders. (though, your years are close enough this probably won't at all matter)

I know a guy with a bone stock 07 GSXR600 and a buddy with an 03 600RR with full hindle race exhaust and a power commander and it's pretty even between the two of them.

I can't believe these post. stock vs stock of course an 07 is going to beet an 03??? wtf you can debate all day long if you got an 03 screamer then go race them and see who wins but then all these questions come up who got off the line better who has better gearing wich rider weighs more blah blah blah. If ya arn't happy with your 03 then go get a newer one.me personaly I won't get an 07 cbr I will wait at least untill two more releases cause of all the crap the changed. I love my 06 and is way freaking fast enough for me aka faster than a ticket machine lol.

I didn't say stock vs stock.  I clearly wrote in my post the mods to my machine and theirs.  I know what mine will do.  I was simply asking about the performance of the '07 GSXR 600 compared to an RR as I couldn't find any information.  Why do some people have to contribute nothing worth while to a post?  Its not like i was asking a retarded question, just wanted some info.

The answer is retarded because the question is RETARDED. I have a 06 gsxr600 and a 06 cbr600rr. As far as I know for 07 the only thing hanged on the gsxr 600 is the stickers. Why do some people ask stupid retarded questions then act like they all ready knew the answer to the question. Don't wast my time.

By the way to anyone who cares the Honda seems to pull harder than the gsxr in the bottom and lower high rpm band. The gsxr bogs down a little more in the bottom but seems to spool a little faster in the middle of the higher rpms. I especialy note the difference when my wife and myself are on the bike together. Also to anyoe who wants to know they are both 06's I think the cbr will win off the line but the gsxr revs 1 thousand rpm's more 17vs18000 rpms so what I gain off the line is retrieved cause you can hold the gear for a split second longer. bottom line when its all said and done they come out dead even. Now toeveryone that wants to ask questions please read through the other post there are oooooodles of pages and the freaking will my cbr beat a gsxr or will my modded older cbr beat a cbr will my cbr beat a lamborgini frick frack F*ck rea the f*ing post.

    just take it to the track where its all skill
its cool to watch a ninja 250 run the hell out of a gsxr1000

jchavers:
 
OK if you wait 2 more releases there are likely to be more changes. The CBR 600RR has changed every two years. The 08 600 is likely to be the same bike as the 07, though I expect there will be a slipper clutch (that's just me) in 08. The 09 will likely be another redesign. The 08s will be out soon, with the 07s enjoying extremely high sales, and no one is reporting manufacturing problems beyond buzzing from the plastic and other typical Honda issues (like sticky clutches while stopped) from the 07s. The engine redesign seems to be limited to materials changes and changes to size and shape of the components. All relatively solid stuff that, if it were broke, we would have heard about. No big new computerized throttle controls like Yamaha has been working on or any other 22nd century stuff that would really complicate the bike. Still using proven technologies but with lighter, stronger materials and more efficient organization of components, and improved manufacturing techniques. The same can be said for the adjustments to the frame.
 
Yeah, I would say that we should avoid the YZF-R1s until they fix that 5500rpm 2nd gear throttle fizzle, hopefully by '08. But the '07 600RR is a safe bet, and now is the time of year to get a deal on one.
 
And I am not so sure I understand where you are coming from calling the question retarded. I thought it was a kind of a good one. And the three question marks after the 03 in your 2nd-to-last post make that sentence totally incomprehensible. Was that sentence a statement with the question marks thrown in as kind of an emoticon? Or were they actually intended to cast doubt on what you were saying? Frankly the whole post comes pretty close to gibberish. And in your last post, what does your 06 600RR have to do with anything? I mean, what are you getting at?
 
Scatterbrain: Thanks for your informed, relevant response.

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ORIGINAL: jchavers_2000

By the way to anyone who cares the Honda seems to pull harder than the gsxr in the bottom and lower high rpm band. The gsxr bogs down a little more in the bottom but seems to spool a little faster in the middle of the higher rpms. I especialy note the difference when my wife and myself are on the bike together. Also to anyoe who wants to know they are both 06's I think the cbr will win off the line but the gsxr revs 1 thousand rpm's more 17vs18000 rpms so what I gain off the line is retrieved cause you can hold the gear for a split second longer. bottom line when its all said and done they come out dead even. Now toeveryone that wants to ask questions please read through the other post there are oooooodles of pages and the freaking will my cbr beat a gsxr or will my modded older cbr beat a cbr will my cbr beat a lamborgini frick frack F*ck rea the f*ing post.

 
For crying out loud, man, new people join these forums all the time. If you can't stand hearing the same question twice, please move on.

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

    just take it to the track where its all skill
its cool to watch a ninja 250 run the hell out of a gsxr1000

 
You've really seen that!?!?!? Good heaven!
 
I can't decide which video I want to see more when I get to heaven: God parting the Red Sea for the Israelites; or a Ninja 250 smoking a literbike's bags.

Heres your numbers.....




CBR600RR ('03)
6/03
10.73 @ 129.7
4.23
4.28
162.2




GSX-R750 ('06)
12/06
10.443 @ 135.6
3.59
4.26
n/a
 
Very close but as we all know....sometimes it just looks good on paper...gotta ride the ride..and the numbers for the 06 are prolly reallu close to the 07...id run em...I like toyin with 750's all the time...i chew em up...LOL

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ORIGINAL: baileyjn

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

   just take it to the track where its all skill
its cool to watch a ninja 250 run the hell out of a gsxr1000

You've really seen that!?!?!? Good heaven!

I can't decide which video I want to see more when I get to heaven: God parting the Red Sea for the Israelites; or a Ninja 250 smoking a literbike's bags.

I've seen it on track and twisties all the time...

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

    just take it to the track where its all skill
its cool to watch a ninja 250 run the hell out of a gsxr1000

 
 
+1 . ive had my 06 f3 to the track and beaten 1k rrs and such through the tight stuff. it has alot to do with the rider. my 58 year old father on his "out dated" rc 51 spanks the crap out of damn near anyone he comes across. and its an '01 450 lb 120 hp v twin. next, im getting real tired of spending what time i have not getting blown up and shot at listening to you people argue over whether someone new has posted the same question. it takes less time and energy to answer the question than to bitch about it. then after you bitch about it you argue about having to answer the same question twice. if you dont want to answer it then dont answer it. holy crap.

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ORIGINAL: f3racer


+1 . ive had my 06 f3 to the track and beaten 1k rrs and such through the tight stuff. it has alot to do with the rider. my 58 year old father on his "out dated" rc 51 spanks the crap out of damn near anyone he comes across. and its an '01 450 lb 120 hp v twin. next, im getting real tired of spending what time i have not getting blown up and shot at listening to you people argue over whether someone new has posted the same question. it takes less time and energy to answer the question than to bitch about it. then after you bitch about it you argue about having to answer the same question twice. if you dont want to answer it then dont answer it. holy crap.

+1 and an "Amen!"

Thanks for all the info, especially CBRFREEK and baileyjn. It's nice to know at least the majority of the people on here will answer a question and not complain!!  I looked for '07 info and couldn't find what i was looking for. I didn't think the '07 was that much different but its nice to know for sure.   I keep telling them they don't stand a chance till they learn to ride, but they won't believe me, lol.   I'll get them to go to the track in a few weeks and show 'em some honda tail.
Thanks, Will 

baileyjn shut up nancy??? hahah don't you have anything better to do than try to pick apart other peoples post and the true meanings behind the statements ie questions. Don't waste my time.

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

    just take it to the track where its all skill
its cool to watch a ninja 250 run the hell out of a gsxr1000

+1 and theres a girl on the 250 haha on of my female freinds overtakes 1ks lol kinda funny, she is pretty damn good, she upgraded to a sv650 track bike though.

Hmm,
 
Sticky clutch?  ... and here I was thinking my shifting at first gear suck?!  I have to be REAL careful and let go of the clutch REALLY SLOW on 1st gear or else it'll die on me or jerk the heck outta me.  So it's just bad sticky clutch?
 
I feel vindicated!