jwp6114
12/30/2007 12:44:00 PM
2004 CBR1000RR
It seems i have been having to tighten my chain more often here lately. seems it gets loose again with in a ride or two.
I called a friend of mine to price new chain and sprockets, he asked me if i wanted to change the gearing or go with stock. I said I would like to stay with the 43 tooth stock rear. and he said that it should be a 40 tooth rear sprocket. All along i have been riding with a +3 rear sprocket and didn't know it.
I wondered why it wheelied up in second efortlessly.
What do you all recommend for gearing and chain & sprocket type, manufacturer.
I want to stay with a 530 for long lasting durability.
What is the front sprocket tooth count stock? i havent looked at it yet.
jwp6114
1/6/2008 6:48:44 AM
what does everyone reccomend for sprocket setup?
the 16-43 felt great. i never felt stock gears. bought it used
cozye
1/6/2008 6:53:44 AM
16-41 is stock
A 1000RR should power up in 2nd easily with stock gearing. I personally think regearing a 1000 is risky.
If you liked the set up you had keep it.
There is a big price difference between the 530 OEM to a 520 conversion If you maintian your chain it will last for a long time.
baxsom
1/6/2008 11:15:03 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: cozye
16-41 is stock
A 1000RR should power up in 2nd easily with stock gearing. I personally think regearing a 1000 is risky.
you have to be kidding
my 1000 is 15/43 520 with a HRC quick turn throttle and with proper riding position i can hammer it and keep the front end down without even trying
SD2007
1/6/2008 12:32:54 PM
I'd have to agree. Unless it's cold out and you've got a near-empty tank, it's easy to keep the front end on the ground with stock gearing. On most days you'd have to make an effort to pull power wheelies in 2nd.
Onarom
1/6/2008 5:10:39 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: jwp6114
What do you all recommend for gearing and chain & sprocket type, manufacturer.
I have alsked this question a lot, both on this forum and to people I know. Everyone I have talked to swear by going 1 down in front and most of them also say to go up one in back. I have already ordered my 520 conversion chain and sprockets geared at 15/42 which will still top out at 165 mph (
click here for more info)
As far a sprocket, the only thing that everyone has agreed with is to stay away from Vortex- they wear down too quickly. I decided to go with a DID 520 ZVM2 (
EVR3 had less friction but the 520 was not recommended for the 1000cc bikes)
baxsom
1/6/2008 6:54:50 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Onarom
quote:
ORIGINAL: jwp6114
What do you all recommend for gearing and chain & sprocket type, manufacturer.
I have alsked this question a lot, both on this forum and to people I know. Everyone I have talked to swear by going 1 down in front and most of them also say to go up one in back. I have already ordered my 520 conversion chain and sprockets geared at 15/42 which will still top out at 165 mph (click here for more info)
As far a sprocket, the only thing that everyone has agreed with is to stay away from Vortex- they wear down too quickly. I decided to go with a DID 520 ZVM2 (EVR3 had less friction but the 520 was not recommended for the 1000cc bikes)
i agree 99%
the erv3 for some reason is not rated to 1000cc
however that is the primary chain used and recommended on 1000rr.net
people there have put over 10K on this chain with no problems with their bikes.
i personally have over 5k on my erv3 and it has never once needed adjustment ( i clean, lube, and check tension every 500 miles)
still DID is a kick ass brand
+1 to vortex, Brad from superbike supply stated he saw one go bad in a day
cozye
1/6/2008 7:20:43 PM
depends on your definition of powering up. my 600rr will power up in 2nd with stock gearing. why would you want to regear a liter bike? to ride more wheelies? they have more power than you can use on the street already. What you need to worry about is high siding it when you power out of a corner.
cozye
1/6/2008 7:31:02 PM
btw, i can do a Driven power up kit, sprockets, RK gold chain for 190 shipped (-1, or -1+2). pm me if interested.
baxsom
1/7/2008 4:16:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: cozye
depends on your definition of powering up. my 600rr will power up in 2nd with stock gearing. why would you want to regear a liter bike? to ride more wheelies? they have more power than you can use on the street already. What you need to worry about is high siding it when you power out of a corner.
because the powerband is real high up on a litre bike compared to a 600.
gearing down (at a reasonable level) shifts the powerband down to a lower rpm so you can power out of slow 2nd and 3rd gear corners easier. i have ridden on some tracks where you have to be in 2nd going about 40ish or you will go wide period. that is too slow and too low of an rpm to get a good drive coming out of the corner.
you can high side a stock geared bike if you dont know what you are doing. high siding doesnt come from gearing, it comes from getting the tire spinning and then chopping the throttle.
besides you are supposed to be at neutral throttle going through the corner until the apex and then gradually giving it gas until the bike is straight up and then full throttle.
high siding isnt a result of geared down. high siding is a result of ****ing up in technique.
for a street bike yeah there isnt a real "need" for a gearing change but then again for a street bike there isnt a real need for any aftermarket mod either is there.
openclasspro
1/7/2008 2:15:35 PM
there also isn't a need for more than 165 on the street
cozye
1/7/2008 2:30:46 PM
I hear you. I just hear a lot litre bike guys talking about going down to 600's all the time. I really good rider can ride a liter bike well, no doubt about it. My comments were really more directed to the average rider who buys a litre bike and can never use it all, and a lot of people really get themselves into trouble quickly.
baxsom
1/7/2008 5:54:00 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: cozye
I hear you. I just hear a lot litre bike guys talking about going down to 600's all the time. I really good rider can ride a liter bike well, no doubt about it. My comments were really more directed to the average rider who buys a litre bike and can never use it all, and a lot of people really get themselves into trouble quickly.
to be fair, i bought a new 600rr specifically for track duty.
easier to ride and faster in the corners
equal skill riders the 600 will be faster in the corners
lighter weight equals higher corner speed
yarbrouc
1/9/2008 7:51:59 PM
I have an 07 and no effort needed for second gear power wheelies on stock gear. Hey Cozye I pm'd you about a sprocket setup.
blizzneck
1/9/2008 11:03:19 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: baxsom
quote:
ORIGINAL: cozye
depends on your definition of powering up. my 600rr will power up in 2nd with stock gearing. why would you want to regear a liter bike? to ride more wheelies? they have more power than you can use on the street already. What you need to worry about is high siding it when you power out of a corner.
because the powerband is real high up on a litre bike compared to a 600.
gearing down (at a reasonable level) shifts the powerband down to a lower rpm so you can power out of slow 2nd and 3rd gear corners easier. i have ridden on some tracks where you have to be in 2nd going about 40ish or you will go wide period. that is too slow and too low of an rpm to get a good drive coming out of the corner.
you can high side a stock geared bike if you dont know what you are doing. high siding doesnt come from gearing, it comes from getting the tire spinning and then chopping the throttle.
besides you are supposed to be at neutral throttle going through the corner until the apex and then gradually giving it gas until the bike is straight up and then full throttle.
high siding isnt a result of geared down. high siding is a result of ****ing up in technique.
for a street bike yeah there isnt a real "need" for a gearing change but then again for a street bike there isnt a real need for any aftermarket mod either is there.
WOW, that was worded flawlessly! +1 Bax and not even an ounce of Attitude 8).
yarbrouc
1/10/2008 2:50:24 PM
I just ordered a driven sprocket kit and galfer lines from Cozye and he has great customer service. Great price too! I agree that for a street bike you really don't have to upgrade anything but then again where's the fun in that. I like to add stuff to make mine stand out from the rest. I may never see the gain of stainless lines on the street but man they look good lol. As for gearing I love wheelies and torque! Do I need it? No! Do I want it? Oh yes! I have a serious problem saving money lol