death wobble - Page 2

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ORIGINAL: mexpipe

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa thanks for the advice I think I will take it to the dealer
on the other hand you must have some great vision to tell what I am wearing from that picture or not so good vision since I AM wearing gloves a jacket (I can see how you can miss the gloves but the jacket??????)  and joe rocket reinforced pants
I will make sure I word my questions better next time and change my avatar so I don’t start a fight about where my foot is on the footpeg

Now that you said something I was gonna say your foot should be a little back on the peg.  ROFLMAO.....
I had that same prob on my 954 and it turned out to be a bad tire I do not member what it was but they put a new set on (Diablos for the win) and the bike has been fine.   You are right it is new let the dealership mess with it.

that jacket looks like a short sleeved shirt to me. is there some kind of white lettering or something? That looks, i swear to christ, like a bare forearm.

anyway, you haven't answered any questions yet. i guess since you're taking it into the dealership it really doesn't matter. It could very well be something whacked that you're doing to the bike, but your reluctance to shed any more light on it other than there's a 'wobble' (if it's a wobble...) in what you think is the front is not making it any less aggravating.

I dont whant to offend but what questions do you whant me to answer???
the only thing that I noticed right now is that the tires are 2 lbs less than specified
and yes the bike is under waranty so  that is why I decided to take it to the dealer

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ORIGINAL: mexpipe

I dont whant to offend but what questions do you whant me to answer???
the only thing that I noticed right now is that the tires are 2 lbs less than specified
and yes the bike is under waranty so  that is why I decided to take it to the dealer

see my very first reply. i had two questions that were obviously glazed over quickly.

2 Lbs less in the tires is not nearly enough. who ever thought that the tires should be speced to max. Load Capacity should be put on a pedestal, shot in the groin, and left to bleed to death by excessive blood loss to the sac. the stock Dunnies that came on my 2006 were speced at 36 front 42 rear. That's OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH! they were predictable true, but holy hell when i got on the gas out of a corner, the grip just fell apart and started to spin up every single time. when i dropped them down to 32/34 and let them work in some heat they were 100 times better. they felt sloppy at first, but that's why you warm them up before you hit it. when the air inside begins to expand due to heat they felt better and better, block by block until i got to the business park for some laps. besides, you shouldn't be doing any excessive corning so early at the start of a ride. that's just asking for trouble.

but i'll let you go back and re-read my questions. however since that IS you in your avatar, rider error isn't too far off in my mind.

their is so much it could be. forks loose, forks low oil, set up is way off. bad tire may be it will wobble going the other way he just does not trust turning that way as deep?  their is so many questions and things we do not know nothing personal but we do not know you  or your skills with a bike or a wrench, it would be very hard for anyone to tell you what could be wrong untill we know you and how you ride.    Again nothing personal  but it could be the ridder upsetting the bike in the corner by braking to late or downshifting it could be anything? ? ? on the other hand you could be a great ridder and have a prob.  We do not know you so it is hard. we can guess but if you are not good with the wrench you may piis the bike off more ? ? ? ? ?
Again I am not trying to be a dick but we need a lot more info.

Always pissed and looking for a carcass.

Kind of like that high school bully who only hangs around the middle school playground, waiting to pick on a third grade straggler, push her down and scream how aggravating little twerps like her are for being so stupid.

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ORIGINAL: knightslugger

It never happens in a straight line or while accelerating hard? Only when cornering?

btw, if that's you in the picture of your Avatar, and you're have this problem, and that's how you ride daily... gear up dude. it's one thing loosing skin because of something you did, it's anouther when it wasn't even your fault due to mechanical malfunction. at least one you can learn from, the other just happens.

hands hit first 80% of the time
Arms follow
Hips hit first 60% of the time
Legs follow
Elbows too.

A good jacket and some leather gloves is what you need. shouldn't cost more that $150.

I obviously don't want to pick sides here, and should just sit on the fence........ but as my signature suggets!

I'm really not sure how much more KS should have treated this response with "kid gloves"  As far as I'm concerned The highlighted parts are the important parts here. "BTW", could have just as easily been "hey jack@$$!", gear up dude.... gear up dummy, then the message ends with some stats to back it up. From what I see no offence should be taken from this response, and if offence was taken, don't worrie, your skin will be alot thicker once you graduate high school.

In SpiritRR's defence, I too have noticed that some responses on the forum as of late, could easily put someone off from requesting advice/help from senior riders, in fear of being belittled. (not singling anyone out)

It's a fine line typing / reading these messages, without emotion. A word of advice to everyone, emoticons can help express the context that the message was written in, and how it should be taken / read.

I work as a manager in an industry where we live via email, to the degree that I have two company email's one postional, and one personal, that recieve the "monday morning quarterbacking" to the tune of at least 15-20 "please explains" asking why and pointing fingers. If you don't send your reply written correctly, and over emphasizing any area that could be misconstrued, you will end up in the pissing match that we have all just witnessed.

Just something for everyone to keep in mind

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I will make sure I word my questions better next time and change my avatar

 
And don't forget to floss or else you and I got big prblems!
 
let us know what the dealer says, good luck.

You're looking good spirit. I think that should be your new avatar. Good luck... with the carcasses and everything.....

well this is my first street bike (rode dirt before) and I don’t know much about the common problems and such.
So my question was in thought that it might be something simple that happens to all often.
I will inform of the results from the dealer when I know

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ORIGINAL: mexpipe

well this is my first street bike

Ah-ha!

hands hit first 80% of the time and hips hit first 60%?
I'm no math professor.

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ORIGINAL: knightslugger

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ORIGINAL: mexpipe

well this is my first street bike

Ah-ha!

 
Exactly what I was thinking...

Ah-hah, what? What difference does it make? You just proved that you do equate inexperience with stupidity. You don't do nice with stupid, you don't do nice at all. What you cannot do, is resist raking your beak across anyone that's less than thou, which is, without exception, all comers. Each and every one of your feral replies is caustic, demeaning, and barely veiled as a finger in the air 'fvck you'. Why it is that sixhundeadrr and HomoSTDfan26 want to ingratiate themselves onto your buzzard's branch is beyond me, unless their oxy scrips are out and kicking grade-schoolers while they're down is the quickest way to spur their mewling asses high again. Get down off your anal importance post, nightslug, it's aggravating and stupid--your two most favorite things.

Whoa, settle down boys; arguing over who pi$$es the furthest on someone else's post while ignoring completely the original topic of the post is the quickest way to turn somebody off from participating in the forum again. (it is the equivalent of conspicuously ignoring someone when theyre trying to talk to you)
 
Mex: Hopefully the dealer can help you. but if htey can't find anything wrong with the bike, consider that you might be subconciously chopping hte throttle when making the turn (since you said that it happens only on right hand turns) Right hand turns tend to be a little more problematic because you are controlling both the turning (if you use the push to countersteer technique on the bars to turn) and the throttle with the same hand.
Also psicologically your throttle hand is closer to the ground, and that causes some people to become uncomfortable, and unstable on their throttle application.
 
I'd reccomend taking hte MSF course, and practicing leaning/ turning on a big open parking lot so you can determine if there is anything you are doing to upset hte bike that is causing the wobble.

Alright, this crap has got to stop.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritRR

Ah-hah, what? What difference does it make?

It tells me that he is inexperienced at diagnosing chassis feedback.

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You just proved that you do equate inexperience with stupidity.

No, i didn't. I didn't call him stupid at all. As a matter of fact, i haven't once questioned his intelligence. I'm not sure where you're coming up with this information, but it's def. coming from your head...

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You don't do nice with stupid, you don't do nice at all.

I'm gald you understand, however to say i don't do nice at all is horrendously false. I do do nice, when it warrents. I'm not going to rub someone's back when they make a mistake they should know better than comiting. He went from Dirt to street (SuperSport might i add) overnight.

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What you cannot do, is resist raking your beak across anyone that's less than thou, which is, without exception, all comers.

Again, all in your head Spirit.

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Each and every one of your feral replies is caustic, demeaning, and barely veiled as a finger in the air 'fvck you'.

Isn't that how feral and acid laced replies work?

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Why it is that sixhundeadrr and HomoSTDfan26 want to ingratiate themselves onto your buzzard's branch is beyond me, unless their oxy scrips are out and kicking grade-schoolers while they're down is the quickest way to spur their mewling asses high again.

No, i'm sure that they agree with what i'm saying because it's both warranted and true.

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Get down off your anal importance post, nightslug, it's aggravating and stupid--your two most favorite things.

Yes sir, Napoleon sir.

hehe   well, at least you picked apart my message carcass true to form     Wait for it       ...stopping now. I'm no good. I suck, I'm 5'2" and 142 pounds including the thesaurus! Okay, not really, and I'm sorry I pretended to sleep with your boyfriend, he said that it was rude...and stupid.

What in the fuking hell is going on in here lol

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What in the fuking hell is going on in here lol

 
Here is the recap. A guy has a bike with a wobble. Something is a little broke in the thing. Then two guys have a sword fight. Then some homo suggests a cage match and accuses one guy of being a midget. Then someone yells at the wobbly guy that he can't ride. The wobbly guy figures out everyone on this forum are retards. Then you show up. OK?

when I said it is my first bike I meant that it is the first I own
I rode my dads kawaski 900 for 3 years in Mexico city it is a different model but still a street bike and if you think people dont respect you (bikes) here in the U.S. you have no idea what you are talking about
whitedealershiprice that si what I feared, I will try that before taking it in I am also going to get a friend to ride it to see what he thinks (he is a much more experienced rider)
 

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ORIGINAL: SpiritRR

Ah-hah, what? What difference does it make? You just proved that you do equate inexperience with stupidity. You don't do nice with stupid, you don't do nice at all. What you cannot do, is resist raking your beak across anyone that's less than thou, which is, without exception, all comers. Each and every one of your feral replies is caustic, demeaning, and barely veiled as a finger in the air 'fvck you'. Why it is that sixhundeadrr and HomoSTDfan26 want to ingratiate themselves onto your buzzard's branch is beyond me, unless their oxy scrips are out and kicking grade-schoolers while they're down is the quickest way to spur their mewling asses high again. Get down off your anal importance post, nightslug, it's aggravating and stupid--your two most favorite things.

You have generalized his replies into one big category of disdain. I've seen him give good advice to people who came in here with a legitimate question, who did research on their own and could not find the answer. He is respectful to those who have taken the time to try and help themselves. I share his intolerance for stupidity, and if being intolerant means that you consider me his branch buddy, so be it. Sometimes the truth is exactly what people do not want to hear. Does that mean you don't say it to them?

Mexpipe, sorry to trash your thread. I hope you get your problem fixed soon. Having a bike that doesn't opperate properly is no fun. If your buddy can't figure it out, get it to the dealer ASAP. It's a beautiful bike and a wobble is very serious. I won't be back in here to argue.

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ORIGINAL: sixhundredrr

Mexpipe, sorry to trash your thread. I hope you get your problem fixed soon. Having a bike that doesn't opperate properly is no fun. If your buddy can't figure it out, get it to the dealer ASAP. It's a beautiful bike and a wobble is very serious. I won't be back in here to argue.

 
+100000000000000000000000000000000

thanks bro and thanks to those that provided some info
 

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ORIGINAL: SpiritRR

Why it is that sixhundeadrr and HomoSTDfan26 ...

That was not nice. It would seem to me you denigrated yourself to the very level you have accused SixHundred of living at. For the record, my sexual preference is not in question here and you have no basis for the unfounded assumption that I have STD(s) or am a fan of them.

I'm sure the hours you spent searching through your bedside thesaurus to sling around a few words you think might stump others makes you feel like your time was well spent. Keep in mind, we're not all the uneducated idiots you think we are. Aside from that fact, an English major (or just about anyone with a high school diploma) would have a field day with the grammatical issues of your most recent posts (that I feel sure you think are canny). So stop playing like you're someone special and just realize nobody really gives a rat's a** what you think. Awww...were you not loved enough by mommy and daddy as a child? I understand why...

In any case, you are all but comical to me...but this is nothing new is it now hotshot?

You might have others fooled...

You know how the rest goes...

Ok...now you can go back to playing around with your thesaurus smartguy.

You are correct, of course, that was not nice and I'm sorry. Would that I were canny--yet I've already stated how much I suck at improv, much less with any forethought. I am woefully uneducated (hence the lax structure and breach in proper form you alluded to) and my penny ante hip-shots are as tripe as my involvement in this thread. I am clearly not wise enough to make nevermind the fact that a dick will always be a dick--as I am a very accomplished and experienced one myself, which is perhaps the only title that allows me to lay claim to those adjectives. Smart? No. Choleric? Yes. So, once again, I apologize for besmirching your name and that of MotoGP itself.