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Not that I disagree w/the comments that the guy needs some experience, and is probably not really pushing his bike to do what its capable of doing, but I'm curious why e/one gets all worked up about it ? Its not like he COULDN'T kill himself on a stock 600 RR ! And who really gives a sh!t if he blowes the motor out of it the first time down the track ?  People blow the engine out of their cars DAILY trying to get the best 1/4 mile time they can out of THE MACHINE THEY HAVE. SO WHAT !!
I say, if you want to blow it up..... go for it ! (not that nos will blow it, its done every day)

Trying to keep this guy from killing himself is respectable and understandable, but to you guys that get all worked up about it (and you know who you are)  Do you really think that your childish comments are going to keep these guys from trying this stuff ?? Or is it just fun to rip on em cuz you know everyone else is going to do the same ?
 

This is probably getting redundant. But are you serious?  If you're not keeping up i think is user error and by that VERY definition you don't need NOS. Try racing against another 600 bike, see what happens. Your friends have fast cars no doubt. But you should have them. Being fast takes skill. I'm not saying I have it yet. but I know what these bikes are capable of and it's amazing! BTW a good rider on a 600 can beat a mediocre rider on a litre bike.
 
When a car dreams, it dreams it's a bike.

So what I want to know is, if you are a good rider, and are always racing these top end cars that are basically street legal race cars (although from personal experience 350Z's are not that fast unless also modded), and it appears that money isn't a factor (considering you said $500 is cheap for a mod), than why didn't you buy a bigger, faster bike to begin with? Why buy a 600 and mod the heck out of it? Why not buy a 1000 or bigger and then see if more mods are needed? Seems like bringing a knife to a gun fight. It might be ok for a few minutes but in the end you brought the wrong equipment. Sure, go buy the NOS (as the exhaust won't help you with any real performance) and make it faster. But I would be willing to bet that even a stock 600 RR will beat most "race" cars on the road even from 60-140. I've been riding for only 5.5 years on my F4i but I have never been beat by anyone yet in a car.  

wow this thread is getting long and i didn't want a liter bike as my first and i do have a slip on which =0 power and for all you guys saying i cant ride come race these cars they are personal friends and you can race them for money pm me if you want to race them or even race me for cash i"ll be waiting ;) stock 600 vs me. oh yeah on a straight line sry i am a girl in the turns

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oh yeah on a straight line sry i am a girl in the turns

 
600s are made for the twistys
1000s are straight line runners.... you bought the wrong bike 

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wow this thread is getting long and i didn't want a liter bike as my first and i do have a slip on which =0 power and for all you guys saying i cant ride come race these cars they are personal friends and you can race them for money pm me if you want to race them or even race me for cash i"ll be waiting ;) stock 600 vs me. oh yeah on a straight line sry i am a girl in the turns

 
WWWHHHHAAATTT??!?!?!?!!? You dont want a liter bike as your first bike, HOWEVER, you want to put a shot on your bike. Those two ideas make NO sense whatsoever. Atleast with the liter bike, your power is "controlled" and with a shot, your having an "uncontrolled" source of horsepower. So instead of having a stronger powerband and pull with a liter bike, you would rather have your "less of a power band" and have a sling shot effect with your source of power. Thats ridiculous. And who was ever saying they've been 170 on your 600RR with a slip on. I am calling some MAJOR BS on that one. You must weigh less than a buck ten and have done some major lightening up on the bike. Busas have a 700cc larger engine, and only do 188 from factory. So I am not seening that happeneing one bit.
 
And as far as your friends with the ""supped up" Supras and Evos and Cobras and what not, I'd like to see them. Now I can see the Cobra easy with some upgrades, and maybe the Supras, however, they better have one hell of a single turbo upgrade or some major TT upgrades, however, they would be auto in that case, which would give you a major favor of the line or from a roll.  However, for the Evo, he better have more than a Turbo upgrade and new cams in there. I dont see that pushing 600 rwhp for less than $10K, and the 350Z, that would take just as must, and one hell of a single turbo swap as well, or a completely upgraded TT setup, because I dont see them going from 300hp to 600 very easy, but hey whatever floats your boat.
 
But, you know, you know whats going on and Nitrous is the way to go. And as far as getting in on the top end in ridiculous. If your doing your 140 and then hit your shot, you'll be blowing a rod out of there or slamming some pistons in no time. Because hitting a shot ont hat high of a top end with deffinate propose a problem. But good luck with whatever you choose.

Guess he left.......

didn't leave lol just have better things to do and the supra's have a t47 and 1 w/ a t42 the evo has gt40r and the 350z has twin gt30r's all have built motors and are 5 or 6 speed all make 700+.....if you would like plz come to GA if you dont believe me feel free i have no reason to lie and i do believe the cbr does over 170 it takes a long time but i i have reached 172 then it would hit 171 down a slight downwards incline  I85 in ATL.

Well, in all reality, twin turbos are not the best thing to have. Single upgarde turbos will give off more pwer and a LOT less lag. And I bet my bike the 350 aint pushing 700+ to the wheels, espacially with twin 30's. Aint happening. I am not trying to debate with you or tell you your retarded or anything like that, but honestly, reading back everything, does it really make sense to you?

I agree with ya HighRevver.  I ride my bike, how does he drive his?

I would pay to see a 600 going 185 mph with a slipon.Wow you have no  clue about yur speedo accuracy

who said 185 i said 170....and the supra's and the evo are all single turbo only the 350 has twins and its a shop car that does make 700 i am telling you if you want 2 prove me wrong come here and race them or me stock 600's...

I drive an 06 sti, and while i belive it compares to the fore mentioned cars. It doesn't compare to my f4i.......Stock f4i!

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who said 185 i said 170....and the supra's and the evo are all single turbo only the 350 has twins and its a shop car that does make 700 i am telling you if you want 2 prove me wrong come here and race them or me stock 600's...

170mph.
 
Not gonna happen on a stock 600 with just a slip on. Just the facts. Your right at a 100hp. Even with higher gearing there is just not enouf power to get to 170mph. Not trying to be rude. But  no way.
 
If your friends have this money to build all these 700hp. cars. I am sure one of them will have a gps, or a video camera. Enouf said.
 
 
Remember you don't have to lie to make friends.

i have a video recorder... wait till it gets a little warmer its been in the 50's....and a stock 06 sti is slow....throw a 20g turbo gt35r etc still shouldnt beat a stock600rr depends on what boost and supporting mods all have fully built motors so plz dont act like a sti is fast w/ its stock baby turbo that makes like shit power...

I have to say that this thread has more entertainment value than any in recent memory.
 
Please, I beg you, keep posting!

I would like to see some real pictures of these built engines, especiallt this 350Z with 700 hp. I can see the Supras being fesable, but with A LOT of dough, but the 350, your talking some SERIOUS money there. Thats over a 2x increase in HP.

ROFL alot of money....Haha thats funny Supra's dont need alot of cash to be fast....getting enough money for one is that hardest part....injector/t67/fuelpump/decent fmic/cams/and tune made 700 at topspeed=car shop so plz dont act like modding cars is alot.The Z yes does cost alot more. One supra has over 1k hp on low boost only because the dyno hit its max but that should be fixed soon though.

DOOOOOD. What ever. I am not going to keep debating this with you. For aSupra, TT to reach 700HP to the WHEELS, NOT the crank will take ATLEAST $6-$8k. Believe me, we have built one.  If its 700 to the crank, you loose about 13-18% HP in transit, puttin it right around 600 HP, so, yeah. And I am not talk those images, I can look up turbo images online too. I want them in the car with actual people standing in them. Thats hat I mean. But, good luck man, good luck with whatever you do

ROFL go to ct9agsr.com or get on aim ct9agsr is his screen name lol he has all the pics you could want its his car he would be more then happy to tell you everything and he will tell you about the supras b/c he has raced them as well and will prove your a moron ;) but thnx for not knowing shit about supra's and it was like 670hp on the dyno w/ those mods and w/e car you worked it must be you thats not capable not the car ;)

hiya... I'm one of Masblaster's good friends and joined up on this forum for a good read. I'm not sure why people would flame him saying he can't ride... I ride around with him a lot (in my car) and it seems to me that he knows how to drive his bike very well, if not better than many others. I've been him stay only a couple of cars behind a CBR 1000 in a roll race and seen him keep up pretty well with a few cars that are known to embarass 600cc bikes.
 
I am also the owner of the Evo in question... and I am good friends with everything Masblaster is mentioning as far as cars go. My car has no trouble pulling away from 600's on pump gas and it is well capable of running low 10's down into the 9's if I ever get a set of drag radials or go with a setup with Hoosiers. I also outrun many of the 600whp+~700whp+ Cobras and 350z Masblaster talks about and they have outrun many 600's. The two Supras in question are monster powerhouse cars that are actually daily driven... one making close to 4-digit whp levels and the other making well well WELL above 1,000whp early on. We couldn't accurately measure his power since the DynoJet software only supported 1,000whp max... new software will be in later. The 4digit supra is known to go around looking for turbo busa's and such to play around with. I personally don't care to race bikes much but it is fun to bust a biker's ego thinking they're invincible in a straight line.
 
With that being said, yes, Masblaster is dealing with the "big dogs"... not your typical mildly mod'd street cars putting down 300whp... we're not kids, but rather enthusiasts whether it comes to bikes, cars, etc. Here's a pic of my current motor setup (before it was put in)... and it is the setup that will put a good distance on any 600cc out there.
 

 
That's linked directly off of my webhosting from my website, www.ct9agsr.com (which is still under construction due to me being lazy, haha). If you need proof of ownership (lol), hop on AIM and give me a ring sometime and if I'm not busy, I'll respond.
 
Also, it only takes a couple thousand, litereally, to bring a Supra w/ a GTE upto the 700whp level on a DynoJet... I know this because I've seen it done several times by customers @ TopSpeed... I was even there for the dyno of the Supra Masblaster is referring to.
 
Good day. =D

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ROFL go to ct9agsr.com or get on aim ct9agsr is his screen name lol he has all the pics you could want its his car he would be more then happy to tell you everything and he will tell you about the supras b/c he has raced them as well and will prove your a moron ;) but thnx for not knowing shit about supra's and it was like 670hp on the dyno w/ those mods and w/e car you worked it must be you thats not capable not the car ;)

 
HAHAHa, that just proves you can make two accounts there chief. Yeah, Im a moron your right, your the one who has no reasonable explaination to why you bought a 600RR over 1000RR but you want to go faster in a straight line, that sounds like a retarded decision to me. But whatever, your with "the big dogs" so you guys know everything about parts. So your automatic driving TT Supra friend have fun up there. I can buy shitty parts off ebay and slap them in my car too. Now, that turbo is a bad ass turb, dont get me wrong, but for a "few" thousand dollars, you arent outting very high performance parts in those engines.
 
And how am I not capable dumbass. Parts can only handle so much twit. Imean come on. How many of these cars have YOU worked on, not your big dog friends. Still waiting for that answer. But hey, you have special parts because your 600 does over 170 right, yeah, maybe down a50 degree angle. You and the big dogs have fun up there. Slap a 60 shot on your bike so you can keep up with all your friends that apparently havea secret diagnosis to boosting cars for some cheap prices and shoot a rod through your block, or go sliding into oblivion against the ground, and then come back here and let us know how that one goes.
 
And no one has a bike ego on here about their bikes. I have had my arse handed to me a few times, by most of my friends, but hey, we dont know what we're doing
 
Have fun!

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No offense, but I'm not the same person as him... nor would I find someone who drives a 3g Eclipse willingly to be credible on knowledge of drag cars and stress tests of parts. Also, I'm not sure what spending less money has anything to do with shooting a rod. The Supra in question making over 700whp on a very small budget has stock internals. So if I opt'd to go with a gt4088 over my turbo... and opt'd to go with a cast-iron log manifold over my top-mount tubular and save at least $1500 on those two parts alone, I'd throw a rod out the side of my block? Interesting string of logic... but then again, as I stated, you willingly drive a 3g Eclipse. =D

I am talking about his bike genius....

And considering my last eclipse made 434 whp [I'd say a sensable upgrade from the 202 from factory], I wouldnt consider myself just driving an eclipse. So if I drove a Omni, I wouldnt know anything, Interesting logic. So I guess all mechanics must drive 429 Boss Mustangs or TT Supras and what not, right?? Hmmmm thats intersting. But you guys know everything there is to know about cars and people because you drive Evo's [didnt like mine] and Supras. Thats an interesting phenomena. Before you come on this board thinking you know all there is to know, I'd do some research. Also, why, if you do not have a bike or any intersting in having one, are you on here. Just to "help your friend". Now, in no way am I saying I know more that you or anything of that sort, however, I do know my way around a vehicle and have worked on quite a few. And if they are drag cars, wtf are they doing on the street??? Drag car, or a street car that has the capability or being a drag car, two different things. I built my Nova from the ground up. So I kind of know whats going on. You may know more than me on turbos and what not when you get into the intrecate details, but dont act like I am Joe Schmo from off the street.