Daywalk3r187
1/10/2008 6:57:05 AM
I think it was for a stolen bike check cuz if your bike was stolen you would want any excuse for a cop to stop someone who stole your bike.
CYCDUP
1/10/2008 11:23:50 AM
Yeah, I got pulled over once leaving my neighborhood cause I fit the description of some guys racing nearby... He checked my license out & let me go. I guess since I'm in the LE profession I thought it was pretty funny, but I do see why or how someone might feel harrassed. I would have at leasted explained to you before I'd depart the real reason I had stopped ya after you'd checked out ok, if his intention were not to spook ya...
Woody6799
1/10/2008 12:38:48 PM
Here is the deal, every state has all different motor vehicle laws and all different policies on thing such as in Texas you can shoot at moving vehicles where as in Jersey you cannot, you can't even shoot a person who is running away with a gun because they are no longer a threat to you. As far as the tire tread line that may just have been on of the reasons he stopped you, I know if I have a car stopped and I have several minor violations and I am not going to write them I just say the first one that comes to my head. Is your liscence plate perfectly visible in accordance to your state laws? Is the plate light out? Did you swerve a little? Follwing too closely? Not signal? Rev you engine? Any of these things are potential stops in Jersey and it very well could be he was looking for something bigger off of something minor. There are plenty of unregistered, uninsured, and unliscenced bikes out there just like cars. As far as someone said before about bikes run because they are harassed, well, that is the most dumbass excuse I have ever heard in my life and thats all I am going to say about that. As far as the ID thing, again it varies from state to state, but in Jersey on a stop you recieve the Drivers ID only, unless you have a reason to ask for the passenger ID (probable cause, non valid DL driver, passengers car, etc.) And xo. is right when you are walking out of the store that is a casual contact, there is so suspected crime, there is no detainment, and there is no reason for the cop to even talk to you so if you want you cant say not a word and walk right on by, no harm no foul. However if your bike is unregistered and your the only one with a bike walking out with a helmet... guess what. They key to dealing with police is to treat them like a normal person. Be respectful and understand they are just doing their job just like you do and they aren't out to mess with you. I am a pretty laid back guy and more people "write themselves tickets" then I would ever normally write. You can get off of alot as long as your attitude is right.
compulady5
1/10/2008 2:12:00 PM
A friend of mine was riding his R6 home from his insurance agency two days ago.
Out of no where, and at an intersection, a cop pulls him over and PULLS HIS GUN.
two others show up and the gun holder demanded he take off his helmet, pull out the key and arms up!!!
No reason other than to bust his chops.
Gave him three tickets.
1) for not using his "blinker" when changing lanes "somewhere back there" (the kid was in the same lane the entire time but the cop threatened to take him to jail everytime he objected)
2) "Improper Use of Lane" ... WTF is that?!?!?!?!
3) Obscured tag (the usual bah blah)
Then they let him go.
BAH.
HEY PBSO!!!!! (oh damn, where's the middle finger smiley?)
bmg velocity
1/10/2008 2:49:49 PM
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ORIGINAL: FITZ
Well a little background here. I live in cincinnati and the weather this time of year is usually pretty crappy. I got close to 70 today so I decided to call up the buddies and take advantage of the beautiful day. So I go to my friends house to pick up my bike and ride it to my house to pick of my jacket. So were here enjoying the ride and just as were about to get off the exit we see a state highway patrol with his lights on and has no one pulled over. We thought nothing of this, so we get off the exit wait for the light to turn green, and then we hear it. Blip of the siren and lights flashing. Im sitting here like great what did we do. The cop gets out of his car passes my friends bike and tells him whats up. He comes to my bike looks at my back end and tire. I ask his sir is anything wrong? He tells me " No I was just looking and your tread looked a little low". Im thinking to myself you have got to be kidding me so I ask him again if anything is wrong and tells me no again and ask to see my license. I show him he checks it out and tells me to have a good day and be safe.
Sorry for the long story, but I have never been pulled over for something so idiotic. I mean my tread is low!!! Its not even that low I still have plenty left. Have you guys ever been pulled over for something like this or dumber? Can he even pull me over for that? I guess he can do anything he wants but come on.
Actually, he might have been trying to do you a favor.
Maybe he rides when he's not working.
You got no ticket, need a new tire, take the hint.
Woody you seem like a very levelheaded officer and i say officer not cop. There are so many cops in cleveland that were burned once or twice by a bike and now the have a hard on for bikes. Ive been on the other side and know how it feel to be outrun. police have to let it go and not take it out on the next bike. As for myself i stop, im fully legal and have no reason to run, but then i have had to waist my time fighting some frivioulus(sp) tickets. I have been ticketed for having my visor opened too much while i was riding and not all the way up but too much as the ticket stated. that was just the cop getting back at bikers.
bmg velocity
1/10/2008 9:29:13 PM
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ORIGINAL: Wolfman707
actually in your circumstance, you don't need to provide anything. thats considered a "casual contact" there is no detainment, and unless he finds a violation of your bike or some other violation, the cop can pound sand. but i will say, it may be in your best interest to comply. there's is always something if you look hard enough.
Hmm..good stuff.
Yeah...back in my misspent youth, I was hauled in mostly for Pub.Intox. (Heavy Metal Rules Dude!...all that crap).
But if a LEO asks who you are, and you get combative or resistant, you'll only make things worse.
One time when I was about 19-20...a bunch of cops called me out of the store one night. There were probably 10-12 of 'em.
They were familiar with some...ahem..acquaintences of mine...and though I was guilty of association, they just wanted to find out
who I was.
They asked me a few questions....we talked about just general BS for a bit.
I said something funny, (don't remember what)...and they all laughed and said..."Hey man...you're all right...you got soul."
And then they just got back in their squad cars and left, waved.
I never have forgotten that.
aaron1085
1/11/2008 7:04:53 AM
its all a numbers game.. he just needed another stop for his daily total. no biggie.
Wolfman707
1/11/2008 11:48:34 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: aaron1085
its all a numbers game.. he just needed another stop for his daily total. no biggie.
quotas are illegal. friendly competion is another story.
Woody6799
1/12/2008 6:36:42 AM
haha yea everyone still thinks there are quotas to fill or that we make out on writing tickets, as far as competition, well, Im in it to win it....
ox. I can understand that and I am sure its very aggravating, i have not been in the situation where a bike ran from me yet so I guess I have not been burned but I know how it feels to have a routine situation go bad for no reason and that is the aggravating part.
willcasp
1/12/2008 8:41:48 AM
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ORIGINAL: ox.
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ORIGINAL: crashkhanman
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ORIGINAL: ox.
at that point i didnt have to give him anything since my bike was off and i was parked.
At anytime an officer can ask for Identification and the person will have to show it.
thats not true. if an officer asks all you have to give him is your name and date of birth. there was a court case about this in my city and the kid won. you can look up the court case on bikestylesinc website.
In the state of Washington, if you cannot show you have a motorcycle endorsement, your bike can be impounded!
RCR
1/12/2008 10:25:03 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Wolfman707
quote:
ORIGINAL: aaron1085
its all a numbers game.. he just needed another stop for his daily total. no biggie.
quotas are illegal. friendly competion is another story.
There is no quotas like they have to get 100-200 out in a month, But in their reviews it is looked at how many tickets are given out. If they are below average it effects their score as if there not enforcing the laws.
Im only giving my opinion on what a police officer told me and that is only one person out of the gazzillions out there, but it made sense to me.
masternastee
1/12/2008 10:32:59 AM
willcasp..where in WA are u from?
Wolfman707
1/14/2008 12:37:28 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: RCR
quote:
ORIGINAL: Wolfman707
quote:
ORIGINAL: aaron1085
its all a numbers game.. he just needed another stop for his daily total. no biggie.
quotas are illegal. friendly competion is another story.
There is no quotas like they have to get 100-200 out in a month, But in their reviews it is looked at how many tickets are given out. If they are below average it effects their score as if there not enforcing the laws.
Im only giving my opinion on what a police officer told me and that is only one person out of the gazzillions out there, but it made sense to me.
i can't speak for all of us out there but, i am proactive enough with other things that writing a few less tickets isn't an issue. my main concern and it may sound corny is the public's safety while i'm working. i can see your point, and it's sad to say there are some "hot heads" out there smearing the good cops that do good work.
CBR Jockey
1/14/2008 6:40:53 AM
Most of the time FITZ. They look for a reasonable reason to pull you over (one that would hold up in court) So they can run your tags, check on any warrants that might be out for you or your buddy.
Still though.. THat is a pretty dumb reason haha. Good story for the future too.
