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city worker
9/20/2007 7:20:12 AM
Damn !!!!!!! you guys all from Idaho or something, or maybe watched to many movies...............  jus f*ckin with you guys,    got few gun nuts at work,me I all I got is a 22 cal remington with a nylon stock all the empty beer cans fear me
madgreek
9/20/2007 7:46:24 AM
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ORIGINAL: Juggernaut

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ORIGINAL: madgreek

I'm almost embarrassed to post here, becase you guys have such nice guns, but I do have a few. There's a Ruger P97 9mm, Ruger Security Six 357 mag, 2 Marlin 22 rifles, a Mossberg 12 ga., and an HR 22 revolver (my first). They were mostly gifts from my dad, and slowly accumulated over the years. I'll try to get some pictures up soon.

Talkin' guns reminds me of a friend of mine who has a concealed weapons permit here in Ohio. He is 140 pounds soaking wet, maybe 5'-8", and carries a 50 cal. DE! If you knew him, you would never guess he's packing, but his mom was killed in their liquor store when he was a young teen, and ever since then, he has carried. Hey, at least now he is doing it legally, right?

I considered a C/C liscense myself, but with kids, I think it would send the wrong message and raise too many questions if they saw it. And besides, little kids have problems keeping their mouth shut. I wonder how many times my 6 year old would tell a perfect stranger that I have a gun under my shirt. lol!
I don't see how teaching responsible gun ownership to children could be bad.  You just have to make sure you tell them no one is supposed to know about it, don't let them know you carry (concealed is concealed).  The fact you have child(ren) should be enough to make you want to carry.  Crime happens everywhere at any time.  Why do people have to wait until something happens to them personally to do something about assuring their personal safety.  Sure, the chances are slim you will need to use a CCW, but so are the chances of your house burning down and you still have smoke detectors and an extinguisher, right?

 
I don't think there's anything wrong with teaching responsible gun ownership to my kids. In fact, I do. I keep them locked up in a case on one floor of the house (the guns, not the kids) with all of the ammo on a separate floor (also locked up). They know I have weapons in the house, and also know not to try to get into them (well, the oldest does, the youngest is only 1 yr old). I make it very clear that they are not toys, and have no business in their hands (until they get older, of course). I don't think this will be a problem, though, since I have 2 girls (oldest is 6), that is, unless their friends find out and start snooping. As much as my kids respect me (well as much as they can at their age, I guess) and try to listen to what I ask, that doesn't mean that they won't tell one of their friends (even in strict confidence) that I carry, or that I have guns in the house. I just think it's hard (almost impossible) to hide things from your kids, and it's just not worth it (I know you didn't say this, but it is an option). Your kids don't always do what you would like, also. Asking a six year old to keep an important secret is too much to expect. Do you have kids? Doesn't sound like you do.
 
As far as wanting to carry because I have kids, I just don't get it. For me, I feel like it would create more problems than it would make solutions. I feel the same way about keeping loaded firearms in the house. Look, what if one of my kids found a loaded gun when I wasn't home (when they're older, of course-i don't leave a 6 year old at home alone)? How about when their grandparents are watching? They don't get around so great anymore, and don't always know exactly what the grandkids are doing at all times. It just seems too dangerous to be worth the protection it might offer.
 
Freebie, good point about not posting pics. I don't think I will now, you guys can just look up my guns online, you'll get the idea. Either way, my guns are nothing special anyway, so I doubt someone would bother taking the risk.
 
 
Freebie
9/20/2007 8:27:18 AM
I'm a firm believer in teaching responsible gun ownership to kids.  I'm involved with a shooting club that does just that and may be in the process of becoming an NRA certified instructor in the future.

But, kids are kids.  Even if they know they're not supposed to "know" that you're carrying, kids can't grasp all of the potential consequences of people konwing.  They could tell their friends in confidence, who tell their friends, then the parents find out, then all kinds of crap can happen from there. 

I think if you carry, don't let your kids know until they're old enough to grasp all of the reasons behind "concealed" carry. 

As far as carrying while with your kids... I do it all the time with mine.  I would MUCH rather have mine and not need it, than need it and not have it.  If it's concealed, only you, people you tell and those with trained eyes to spot them will know.  A gun isn't going to just "go off" by itself unless you leave it in an unsafe condition.  Carry safely, don't even touch it unless you're holstering or unholstering it at home or if the situation warrants it and there will be no issues. 

People have raised their own concerns about me carrying while with my son.  I just tell them that I remind myself how I would feel if someone tried to kidnap, hurt or threaten him or worse, and I was unable to do anything in his defense.  I would beat myself up over it for the rest of my life.  I just consider myself my family's "bodyguard".  Police usually show up after the act has been committed and the damage was done.  I don't want to have to wait for help and feel powerless.  I will do anything to draw harm away from my family, even it means I myself end up being harmed.  My family is worth it.
 
As far as keeping loaded guns in the home.  I do.  I have several in strategic locations and only one other person knows (wifey) where they are.  Of course, my son is too young and incapable of finding them right now, but that definitely will change as he gets older.  Long before that time I plan on having places where I can safely keep them where nobody can access them (like an electronic unlocking quick-access pistol safe).
 
I grew up around them.  I knew from the time I was 10 where my dad kept his loaded pistol and I could access it if I wanted to.  But, I had learned very early on about firearm capabilities, safe handling and essentially to stay away from them without consent and supervision of my dad.  Hell, I even found out early on that my dad carried.  It was purely by accident.  My dad explained to me why I couldn't tell anybody and that he shouldn't know when he does.  I sometimes would ask him out of curiosity (and discreetly) if he was, and he would never tell me yes or no.
Donohu40
9/20/2007 8:29:44 AM
I got a sweet bb gun.  I can take an eye out from 10 yards.
madgreek
9/20/2007 8:29:53 AM
I see your point Freebie, but it's just not for me.
Ty
9/20/2007 8:32:35 AM
Wow, there are some pretty loaded down riders around here, lol. 
 
I'm rockin a Mossberg semi-auto short barrel 12-gauge for around the house and a Taurus subcompact .45 for around town.  I just picked up a couple boxes of  Black Talon .45 rounds so I'm all excited about that.  We we're at a gun show asking the ammo dealers if they had any like usual, and one finally said yes and pulled out this ammo can with various sizes and let us buy some. 
 
I'd like to get a silencer for my .45.  Do any of you guys with the serious guns know how I can get one?  I had a lead on one but it fell through and I'm not real comfortable buying from overseas. 
Freebie
9/20/2007 8:38:47 AM
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ORIGINAL: madgreek

I see your point Freebie, but it's just not for me.


That's 100% perfectly fine and understood.  Go with what you're comfortable and familiar with.  That guarantees safety from accidents.  I grew up around them so it doesn't bother me.  It's just a chunk of metal capable of controlled explosions... just like a car or motorcycle.  Not all people are comfortable around motorcycles or maybe even cars.

Which brings me to a crucial difference between pro and anti gun people:  Pro gun people support it, but don't force other people to carry whereas anti people don't support it and want to disarm everybody.  If antis would let people make their own decisions and respect them with respect to guns and not try to force their agenda on everybody else, I think there would be less controversy on the subject.  Example, my wife isn't "anti",  she's a good shooter, won't carry one even though I would like her to, but she thinks that if people want them (and are educated in safe handling/operation and stable to own them) they should have them... it's just not for her.
Freebie
9/20/2007 8:41:25 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ty

Wow, there are some pretty loaded down riders around here, lol. 

I'm rockin a Mossberg semi-auto short barrel 12-gauge for around the house and a Taurus subcompact .45 for around town.  I just picked up a couple boxes of  Black Talon .45 rounds so I'm all excited about that.  We we're at a gun show asking the ammo dealers if they had any like usual, and one finally said yes and pulled out this ammo can with various sizes and let us buy some. 

I'd like to get a silencer for my .45.  Do any of you guys with the serious guns know how I can get one?  I had a lead on one but it fell through and I'm not real comfortable buying from overseas. 

 
Check your local laws.  I know in VA you can purchase one, but you have to get a permit to have/own one.  I don't thik you can carry one for personal protection use... maybe for target shooting or on your own property.  I think you have to apply for a permit and pay $200 or something... like I said, that's for VA, your area may be different or prohibit it alltogether.
mdfirefighter
9/20/2007 8:43:30 AM
<soap box speech> Almost like helmet laws... give the people the right to choose. When I was in CO, I had the right to choose if I would wear my helmet, but I did, all the time, every time. I didn't have to, but I did because thats what I beleive.... imagine that, giveing me the freedom to choose. </soap box speech>
Ty
9/20/2007 8:53:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: Freebie

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ORIGINAL: Ty

Wow, there are some pretty loaded down riders around here, lol. 

I'm rockin a Mossberg semi-auto short barrel 12-gauge for around the house and a Taurus subcompact .45 for around town.  I just picked up a couple boxes of  Black Talon .45 rounds so I'm all excited about that.  We we're at a gun show asking the ammo dealers if they had any like usual, and one finally said yes and pulled out this ammo can with various sizes and let us buy some. 

I'd like to get a silencer for my .45.  Do any of you guys with the serious guns know how I can get one?  I had a lead on one but it fell through and I'm not real comfortable buying from overseas. 


Check your local laws.  I know in VA you can purchase one, but you have to get a permit to have/own one.  I don't thik you can carry one for personal protection use... maybe for target shooting or on your own property.  I think you have to apply for a permit and pay $200 or something... like I said, that's for VA, your area may be different or prohibit it alltogether.

 
Yeah, that's how it is here.  Just don't feel like paying the fees. 
holycrapitshassell
9/20/2007 9:07:34 AM


My G23, also around here are my remington 870 20ga youth model i got for my 12th bday, and a remington model700 chambered in .30-06 for my 16th :)
!!!!!NJ Ride
9/20/2007 9:33:15 AM
my "friend" has a 2 XDs, a BI-tone 9 range queen & 45 compact carry...
!!!!!NJ Ride
9/20/2007 9:53:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: Lrn2Go

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

Anybody shoot a Beretta CX4?    9mm, .40, or .45


Is there a big difference between a .50 desert eagle and a .44 DE?



Several differences, one being the obvious size of bullet. The smaller differences also include the .44 being a lighter gun (they flute the barrels to shave some weight on everything but the .50AE), and, at least here in Oklahoma, anything bigger than .45 and it can't be a legally "concealed" piece, so the .50ae can't be used as such (though one might argue that a desert eagle is obnoxiously large for a gun your trying to actually hide in the first place). Another difference is price per round (new). I'm not sure about the .44's cost per round, but my .50ae runs me about $1.50 a bullet sent down range.
i LOL'ed at that...that thing is a cannon
Juggernaut
9/20/2007 10:16:24 AM
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ORIGINAL: HARDCORP 8654

I originally wrote this for internal use only, but was later allowed to be posted by a friend of mine on a Marine forum. This is just a small piece of what I had wrote and what was given permission to release


Something that was tested and worked flawlessly, the H&K MP5/10mm after the FBI dropped the ball on the 10mm it has about 1400 MP5/10MM and a handful of factory MP5-SD6/10MM and six were loaned out to the Precision Weapons Shop (PWS) at Quantico. Given to Force Recon to use in CQB it was devastating the knock down of a 44 mag without the over-penetrate of the 5.56 and a lot more stopping power than a 9 mm offered a little later some conversion kit were located to change over CAR 15 to 10mm and capable of efficiently fire at 150 yards with for 14 inch custom barrels, so things went well for us maybe not so for PWS and even got some freebie conversion kit from colt for the M1911 frame's big hang up there was the stop pin for the slide Snapping them like toothpicks.  O well and it came down again to the age-old story, money.  The closest comparison I have is, the Romania's build a kalashnikov model with 4-way selector [safe, semi, full and a 3 round burst] I had use of one that had been converted into a standard spetsnaz configuration, a real joy to use.  Truly feel that having the capability to use the same ammunition in both weapons will far outweigh the implementation cost and been gu
10 mm should be the LE calibre of choice, probably so for military also, but Conventions of Warfare don't allow the exploitation of a JHP's power in 10 mm.  I can't believe they're not more popular, I guess you can blame the gun manufacturers for not expanding their lines to include the 10.  Problems would have been: designing new magazines for the round, then redesigning the mag wells on any guns using them.  The .40 Short&Weak still bridges 9mm and .45ACP, but the 10 mm would be my choice of handgun anytime.  As it is I've settled with 9 mm and the .40 S&W but would still like a 10 eventually  I've been trying to find a S&W 1076, but just about anyone who's got one isn't letting it go.  I wish there were current models offered by H&K, S&W with the M&P, or Beretta with a 90Two in 10 mm.  I don't think I would buy the Glock 20 or 29 or an EAA Witness because I'll have to wait 5-6 months for all new gear and buy more mags, et c.  There is a guy on berettaforum who has successfully converted a 96 from .40 cal. to 10 mm by filing out the mag well and converting some EAA 10 mm mags for the Beretta mag release.
motoxxx43
9/22/2007 12:54:33 AM
Well hell yeah they should continue progress with the 10mm. Problem was the recoil. People cry about the recoil from these things like it is the worst of all pistols. A few articles I have read claimed it was too powerful to be a legitimate weapon of choice... I dont know what the heck that is supposed to mean, but I think I would rather have too much power then not enough.
With the right equipment you can transform a .40 into a much more capable 10mm. The problem you will run into is the magazine/clip being too small and you will need a slightly firmer spring for the added recoil. If you own a Glock they make a bad ass "drop-in kit" that allows you to change barrels to change between 40 cal, 10mm, and 357sig. each barrel is like 130 bucks. There are too many cool things you can do with firearms. I am glad we live in a Nation where we have rights to own and use them!
kodiak1122
9/22/2007 6:53:46 AM
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ORIGINAL: !!!!!NJ Ride

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ORIGINAL: Lrn2Go

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

Anybody shoot a Beretta CX4?    9mm, .40, or .45


Is there a big difference between a .50 desert eagle and a .44 DE?



Several differences, one being the obvious size of bullet. The smaller differences also include the .44 being a lighter gun (they flute the barrels to shave some weight on everything but the .50AE), and, at least here in Oklahoma, anything bigger than .45 and it can't be a legally "concealed" piece, so the .50ae can't be used as such (though one might argue that a desert eagle is obnoxiously large for a gun your trying to actually hide in the first place). Another difference is price per round (new). I'm not sure about the .44's cost per round, but my .50ae runs me about $1.50 a bullet sent down range.
i LOL'ed at that...that thing is a cannon

 
Watch this idiot: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=176387366994000475
Be carefull with the big guns!
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9196901567295965866
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3659850834535531888
rangerscott
9/22/2007 12:22:00 PM
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Watch this idiot: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=176387366994000475
Be carefull with the big guns!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9196901567295965866
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3659850834535531888
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I believe those last two vids is of an elephant gun.
rangerscott
9/28/2007 5:16:32 PM
Not a pistol virgin anymore.  


Just bought this baby today.   Can't wait to see how she feels.    I might buy a light add-on since half the reason I bought it is for home security.






thomasintexas
10/3/2007 7:52:57 AM
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ORIGINAL: mikey1297

my colection


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let mikey shoot it! he'll kill anything!


edcbr
10/3/2007 8:12:49 AM
im from WV and everone has some type of weapon there, mine are the usual
a 30.06, 22 rifle, a shotgun and a compound bow
06 yellow
f4i
19000 mls.
Grlzridet0o69
10/9/2007 5:53:45 AM
...I am from WV...here is a pic of me and my friend with my baby.


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mdfirefighter
10/9/2007 7:00:40 AM
Just added another to my stable


Northernfirepower
10/9/2007 7:12:53 AM
^ Is that a PC-9mm? I can't seem to find them anywhere.
mdfirefighter
10/9/2007 7:18:05 AM
Its actually the .40 s&w. I already have a pistol that is 40 so I figured why get a new caliber.

*EDIT*
Gunbroker.com is my best friend and worst enemy. Some people are addicted to ebay, I'm addicted to gunbroker.
Grlzridet0o69
10/9/2007 8:39:36 AM
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ORIGINAL: mdfirefighter

Just added another to my stable





Thats fukin Boss...i love it
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