Installed scorpio alarm and question on wiring.
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Installed scorpio alarm and question on wiring.
MC_spirited
4/3/2008 6:46:43 PM
I bought my bike with horrible flushmounts. I plan on redoing the signals and going through the wiring back there and soldering all the connections well. I just wanted to get things hooked up for the moment. My wiring question is about the brake light connector. In the wire bunch there are the two factory connectors for the signals, and there is one white/opaque connector without anything plugged into it. It is the same style as the turn signal connectors. My brake lights function fine. The signal blinks on the alarm work fine. The brake flash for the alarm doesnt. Basically you are sopposed to plug the harness into the connector, then the indicators into the harness. I plugged the male from the alarm harness into the female brake connector. There was no male connector in the white female plug. Is this wiring done wrong? How is it sopposed to be. The fender was eliminated and new signals put on. I am not sure what the deal is with it.
honda502
4/4/2008 9:16:03 AM
The white connector is for the license plate light, which was eliminated when the fender was cut. As far as your alarm problem, can't help there. I know the brake light connector will have more than two wires per bulb, because they should be 1157 bulbs, if that helps.
MC_spirited
4/4/2008 1:48:59 PM
I see. I will have to look more closely for the connector for the brake light. Thank you for the response.
odysseyzray
4/14/2008 7:34:53 PM
I got the same problem here, xcept i got a 600RR 2007
Anybody has ever installed a scorpio alarm ? I got it today and it comes with a factory harness for wiring. However i got a bad feeling that this is not the right one. It says
Black Wire - To Ground, Green wire on all Honda's (I dont see no green wire)
Orange Wire - To Tail Light, Brown wire on all Honda's (Same here, dont see no brown)
Grey Wire - To Left Turn Signal, Orange wire on all Honda's (OK)
Grey Wire - To Right Turn Signal, Blue wire on all Honda's (OK)
So no green no brown, all that i have is a white cable, bigger than the others.
Anybody can help ??? Pls ...
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amnesia
4/15/2008 9:16:07 AM
I installed a scorpio on my '05 f4i a couple of years ago and it was a piece of cake. The connectors were all there tucked way back under the seat. I think they were secured by a wire clip way back under the lock mechanism. You simply unplug the connectors and put the scorpio one in between. If you follow the wires from the lights you should be able to find the connectors. Only thing I didn't do is install the ignition cut off because I didn't want to cut any wires. If you find an easy way to install it let us know.
One thing, don't count on the Scorpio to not drain your battery. It will, and it won't take all that long either. And I never got any warning of the low battery situation on the remote!
All in all it's a pretty decent alarm (toy). It's not loud enough to stop any but the most novice thiefs, but it scares the shit out of me when I forget it's on and try to jump on the bike!
devlzluv
4/15/2008 6:57:38 PM
if im reading this correct are you saying that ur brake light isnt flashing when u arm and disarm it?
randyjoy
4/15/2008 7:41:39 PM
On mine, the brake light doesn't flash, only the turn signals. It gets power from the tail light to know when you've turned ignition on, don't think it is supposed to flash.
The pic of the wiring above looks like aftermarket connections (non-stock). The color codes are correct that Scorpio gives, Honda has been using that wire-color scheme for years.
amnesia
4/15/2008 8:10:41 PM
Both my front and rear turn signal light when alarm is armed (not the brake lights).
The Factory connector should go between the two rear turn signasl and the TAIL light connectors. Nothing to do with the brake lights!
Make sure you have the correct factory harness. It should be the HON-2 connector. The plugs should match those on your bike.
MC_spirited
4/16/2008 3:36:57 AM
I am positive that I have the correct wiring harness. It says that the one that isnt used for the two signal connectors is for the brake. I havnt screwed around with it. When it gets a bit warmer I am going to pull off the tail, put on new signals, and re-route the wiring a bit cleaner.
amnesia
4/16/2008 8:15:18 AM
FYI:
Here's a copy of the instructions that came with my factory harness:
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odysseyzray
4/16/2008 12:35:41 PM
Installed the alarm yesterday, everything seemed to be fine until the night. When i tried to ride it, my bike wont start, it said the cycle battery is empty. So i recharged it last night and installed this morning. So far i can still start the bike. We'll see for a few more hours or maybe tomorrow i'll check back on it ...
amnesia
4/16/2008 1:14:58 PM
Did the alarm remote signal you that your battery was low? It's supposed to, but mine never did!
I find that I can leave the alarm on for about a week, maybe 2 without riding before the alarm kills the battery. It's supposed to go into low power states as the battery charge decreases, but I haven't found that to be all that helpfull.
You'll definitely enjoy the alarm once you work all the bugs out. By the way, did you install the ignition kill feature ("anti-hijack")
MC_spirited
4/16/2008 2:00:16 PM
That diagram says the orange wire is the taillight. I got the anti-hijak, but am waiting to re-do all my connections, signals and splicing that in until later.
devlzluv
4/16/2008 4:53:42 PM
seriously ur best bet buy a manual or dl it, ur brake light should not come on at all when arming and disarming unless scorpio has changed something recently. ive installed bout 6 alarms on bikes now, 4 internatrix and 2 scorpio. then again i didnt do the harness cuz i hate them and just directly connect the wires.
odysseyzray
4/16/2008 7:56:35 PM
My brake light doesnt light at all when arming or disarming now. Does it mean good or ... bad ??? The cycle battery status keeps popping on the remote. However its not accurate, sometimes u can read 13.2 V, than it went down to 12.4 V and then went up again to 12.7 V. Weird ???
I have yet installed the anti-jack, i dont know which wires to cut? Anybody ???
MC_spirited
4/17/2008 3:25:42 AM
I just dont know why there are three connnectors on the harness. If it wasnt meant to have the brake light hooked up, they wouldnt waste money putting an extra connector on the wiriing harness that nobody would use.
The anti hijack.. The book says Green/yellow wire from fuel pump (under seat) option two is the grey wire from the main fuse box. I plan on going from the fuse box. I hope that cuts out the power to the engine, I would be acared that if it cuts off hte fuel pump that it would let it fun for a little while longer, where cutting the ignition would be instantanious.
amnesia
4/17/2008 10:31:57 AM
The connectors in the wiring harness are 3 - one each for the rear turn signals. and one for the tail light. The tail light connector is mainly for a ground for the unit, and the positive is for the alarm to sense when the bike is powered up. There is nothing to do with the brake lights.
As far as the anti hijack goes, Scorpio actually recommends the fuel pump wire. Their logic is that if you simply kill the engine, the thief may be on a curve and wipe out. (who cares!!!) I guess the worry is they might sue you. On a more real note, the alarm might accidentally trigger while you are riding, so if it just cuts the fuel pump, you will get a bit of warning before it quits altogether, and hopefully won't be dragging a knee!
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