NY Erion929
1/5/2008 11:54:33 PM
Heres the direct link to the petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/sabiker/petition-sign.html
Please visit Save A Biker at:
www.SaveABiker.comYour name and e-mail address will NEVER be given out for any reason other than this petition!The ultimate goal for this petition is to STRENGTHEN the current punishments, not to create more laws!
To: U.S.Congress Each and every day, distracted and inattentive drivers pull out in front of, follow too close or simply "mow over" motorcycles. Bikers are being injured and killed because of carelessness. Most of the time, the drivers receive a warning, simple citation, slap on the wrist or less.
If you pull a gun out and accidentally shoot someone, you most likely get tried for Involuntary Manslaughter.
If you hit someone on a bike and kill him or her, you get a ticket.
We would like for congress to pass legislation to strengthen punishments for drivers who kill.
Some states have tried to take action but it's time the federal government gets involved.
The statement "Kill a Biker, Go To Jail" is nothing new, but it must become a fact of life for drivers who carelessly murder bikers.
Most bikers ride in fear, knowing that if they get run over, the penalty is great for them, but not the careless driver that did them in!
If you support the right to live and ride, without the fear of some lowlife running you over and getting away with it, please sign this petition.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
fishfryer527
1/6/2008 2:15:34 AM
Great slogan, 'kill a biker go to jail'. But really, isn't it kinda stupid? Here in Florida, bikers don't even need helmets. When a retard on a bike dies in a low speed crash because the guy isn't wearing a helmet, I should DIE? Even if it is my fault (drunkdriving excluded), he didn't even take the most basic safety measure.
Riding a motorcycle is dangerous, get used to the idea.
N8 Dawg
1/6/2008 8:03:17 AM
dont agree at all....we know the risk of riding...and the idiots without helmets, well hell they are just asking for it.
I could understand if drugs or alcohol were playing a role(which you would get jail time) but bikes are hard to see, especially when you have some idiot going 60mph in a 25mph zone.
I dont ride in fear. if you do then maybe you need to quit riding? seriously if you are so scared about getting ran over why do you ride? even if they passed this law its not going to solve anything at all. I have had ALOT of close calls, and I can understand being extremely pissed about an accident, but dont think someone should serve jail time over an "accident". shooting someone with a gun and getting into a car wreck are two completely different things, completely.
How about the careless bikers out there that kill other people including there selves...should we send there family to jail? just doesnt make sense and accident is just that. unless the person Intentionally runs the person over I dont see how putting them in jail would solve anything?
SchiraF4I
1/6/2008 8:53:29 AM
why do they call them accidents. They can be stopped if not by you then the driver.
Terry954rr
1/6/2008 10:09:49 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: fishfryer527
Great slogan, 'kill a biker go to jail'. But really, isn't it kinda stupid? Here in Florida, bikers don't even need helmets. When a retard on a bike dies in a low speed crash because the guy isn't wearing a helmet, I should DIE? Even if it is my fault (drunkdriving excluded), he didn't even take the most basic safety measure.
Riding a motorcycle is dangerous, get used to the idea.
Riding without a helmet is stupid.........but if someone kills a rider bc they are not paying attention or driving stupid then hell yeah they should serve some time
Don't agree either,
Sure it pisses me off when someone pulls out in front of me but bikes a hard to judge their speed when approaching them.
Its the risk we take by going out on the roads on a machine that is open with no safety restraints. This is something we choose to do and are not required to do so, to make a law that turns an accident into jail time is rediculous.
QuickNDeadly
1/6/2008 10:45:41 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: fishfryer527
Great slogan, 'kill a biker go to jail'. But really, isn't it kinda stupid? Here in Florida, bikers don't even need helmets. When a retard on a bike dies in a low speed crash because the guy isn't wearing a helmet, I should DIE? Even if it is my fault (drunkdriving excluded), he didn't even take the most basic safety measure.
Riding a motorcycle is dangerous, get used to the idea.
I don't think it's stupid. That's a federal law and it doesn't say "kill a biker without a helmet, go to jail".
I think motorcycles are safe, people like babies who doesn't know how to stand on his two feet make them dangerous.
fishfryer527
1/6/2008 12:16:35 PM
Nauree
1/6/2008 12:22:16 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: fishfryer527
quote:
I think motorcycles are safe
If you got 10 engineers in a room and asked them to design a more UNSAFE vehicle to share the road with an SUV they couldn't unless they used explosives and the aids virus to power it.
Yes they could. A motocycle....WITH SHARP EDGES! That way when you crash and it lands on you it cuts you in half instead of just crushing you.
Kewl Breeze
1/6/2008 12:37:33 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: RCR
Its the risk we take by going out on the roads on a machine that is open with no safety restraints. This is something we choose to do and are not required to do so, to make a law that turns an accident into jail time is rediculous.
+1 (except with the correct spelling of ridiculous
)
Right idea, wrong approach. Sure I want people to be more cautious on the road but that doesn't seem like a well thought out solution. Increasing age restrictions for driving like N.Y., making drivers lic. tests more difficult, and even having the tiered system for riders (like Europe) would go further to decrease injuries/fatalities imo ... besides,
proving an accident was caused by "carelessness" is very difficult.
SpiritRR
1/6/2008 12:41:28 PM
Kinda reminds me of the 'sanctity of marriage' legislation, at least in its probable effect on behavior. As hard as the AMA (and others) work to protect our rights, there's just too many hoodlums that ruin any positive public perception of motorcyclists (yeah, you, stunta...).
Everyone always says 'I didn't see him...'
when they tell the cops why they moved their Excursion into the path of Joe Rocket. Stiffer penalties would just be something else waived by American rights to ignorance.
My personal favorite is one of California's DUI laws. If you're involved in a crash for your second DUI and someone dies, you will be charged with
first degree murder--since you had prior knowledge of how dangerous drunk driving is from the explicit state instruction classes received after your first offense. Now that's deterrence.
pacemaker
1/6/2008 1:18:45 PM
This type of thing always raises an emotive response, The fact of the matter is that road rules are road rules, everything gets measured by the same stick. If your involved in accident be it on your bike or driving a car, then the same rules apply.
Government bodies, State, Federal, would just as easily say that riding bikes is to dangerous & should be banned outright, I know this, cos its been touted here in Oz before, this from State governments who think that the answer to the road toll is speed cameras & speed limits cut down to a walking pace (try 50 klms or 31 mph in built up areas). Yep, I see dick heads everyday on the road to, fools who ride wearing sandles,T-shirt & pair of shorts, others that think its ok to go triple the speed limit in suburbia.
Car drivers young and old, that don't look before they change lanes (either "Texting" or Myopic anyway) & many other things to numerous to list.
Its not my bike thats dangerous, (using the roads is though, woefull road surfaces, oil spills, inattentative & impatient people, drugs & booze, lack of training, god, people get taken out just walking a cross them) I'm more vulnerable to serious & lethal harm, I accept that, its the price I pay to be able to ride, & I pay it gladly.
RichB
1/6/2008 2:50:16 PM
This thread FTL. Bad idea, and that petition website is stupid and accomplishes absolutely nothing
QuickNDeadly
1/6/2008 5:53:57 PM
That's all I was trying to say. We people make it dangerous for eachother. I ride my bike every single day, doesn't matter if it rains, snows, cold, hot or warm. There is a proper way of doing things and thats what the pettition for. The basic Idea to me is to make people pay attention what they are doing. I used to live in NY and now I live in Charlotte. Here people are more respectful to eachother in the traffic and I didn't have any problems. If people respect eachother enough, you can decrease the amount of accidents happening. Its of course true that you can't prevent accidents totally. But you can at least make people pay more attention. Lets discuss it and see if we are capable of producing any new ideas that can improve our community. I don't think that pettition will go through but an idea can be improved by questioning. I think its better than ignoring. Everybody knows what a bike is and what is happening to the riders. I think questioning educates people. This alone is enough for me to discuss this.
rangerscott
1/6/2008 6:18:54 PM
How about this petition.
If male: Steal a bike get your weiner chopped off.
If female: Get your tant sewed up.........O wait that probably wouldnt affect them too much. How about no credit cards!!!!!!!!!!!
