Need some info please

So my brother has blessed me with his awesome 06 1000rr he wants me to look after it and take care of it for him for about a year.  The bike has about 2400miles on it.  Is there anything I should know about services, oil changes, etc?  And yes I will be riding it once in awhile just to let it run here and there the bike I ride right now is a 01 F4i so i am pretty much honored to babysit it for him 

That sounds like a great deal. He obviously trusts you. Enjoy the bike and ride carefully.

Nothing I can really think of offhand about servicing the bike. Just the usual stuff

    do not just let it run
you are better off unhooking the battery and just letting it sit than cranking it and just letting it idle.

the charging system doesnt kick in until a few thousand rpms so idling will only drain the battery and letting the exhaust warm up and then cool back down quickly will cause condensation

oil changes are only required every 8K miles. most people change it earlier. 

let me babysit your f4i while you babysit the 1krr. :)

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

    do not just let it run
you are better off unhooking the battery and just letting it sit than cranking it and just letting it idle.

the charging system doesnt kick in until a few thousand rpms so idling will only drain the battery and letting the exhaust warm up and then cool back down quickly will cause condensation

oil changes are only required every 8K miles. most people change it earlier. 

 
Agree with above.  Either ride it regularly, or if it must sit use a battery tender.
 
Also, when you do start it, make sure you get it up to operating temps on the highway somewhere (180+) and run it.  You will get water in the oil from a quick startup and shutoff.  This frequently happens to demo bikes at stealerships that are frequently started and not ridden.
 
 
cheers.

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

    do not just let it run
you are better off unhooking the battery and just letting it sit than cranking it and just letting it idle.

the charging system doesnt kick in until a few thousand rpms so idling will only drain the battery and letting the exhaust warm up and then cool back down quickly will cause condensation

oil changes are only required every 8K miles. most people change it earlier. 

 
Ouch.  Idling the engine will NOT drain the battery, it will charge it.  I'm not recommending this as a means of maintaining the battery, but let's keep this factual.
 

He must trust you more then I trust most of my friends.  LOL  back to your question, with that amount of miles their is not much you need to do just change the oil after 2K miles and keep the chan lubed up.  depending how hard the bike was ridden check out the brake pads and fluid levels.   and you will be Golden
 
Keep the rubber down  

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ORIGINAL: SD2007

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

   do not just let it run
you are better off unhooking the battery and just letting it sit than cranking it and just letting it idle.

the charging system doesnt kick in until a few thousand rpms so idling will only drain the battery and letting the exhaust warm up and then cool back down quickly will cause condensation

oil changes are only required every 8K miles. most people change it earlier. 

Ouch.  Idling the engine will NOT drain the battery, it will charge it.  I'm not recommending this as a means of maintaining the battery, but let's keep this factual.

I don't want to get into an argument, but idling the engine will most certainly NOT charge the battery. The engine has to be around 2500 RPM before the battery will get charged.

I would also use a battery tender.

Yeah I have a battery tender for it and Im not just letting it idle I will be taking it out to ride im just making sure that no adjustments are comming up on it being that its so new.  thanks for all the help

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ORIGINAL: mininsx

I don't want to get into an argument, but idling the engine will most certainly NOT charge the battery. The engine has to be around 2500 RPM before the battery will get charged.

 
Since you're not here to start an argument, you must have a very reliable source or experimental results to back up what you stated above.  I'd really be interested to hear where this came from.  I'm also curious as to your answer to the following question-
 
How much electricity does the charging system generate at idle?
 
A. None (the headlights and the other electrical loads are powered solely by the battery)
B. A little (only enough to partially power the electrical loads, the battery must do the rest)
C. Just enough (enough to power 100% of the electrical loads - battery is neither charged nor discharged)
 
 

Congrats on basically getting a free 1000rr. I love mine! Did he throw in free insurance? Ride it and sell me your F4i.

    i hope knightslugger jumps in on this one.
he is a whiz at charging systems

however lets look at our bible

on page 17-7 of our service manual it says to test the charging system at 5000 rpms
on page 17-6 of same manual it says that a fully charged battery will read 13-13.2 volts

now considering that this same manual. the beat all end all of how to when it comes to this bike on storage
and i quote
"for extended storage, remove the battery, give it a full charge, and store it in a cool dry place. for maximum service life, charge the stored battery every two weeks"

also consider this page
http://webpages.charter.net/knightslugger/CSA.pdf
knightslugger was so kind to publish this charging system troubleshooting flow chart and you will note that you check initial voltage at 2500 rpms and should only read 13.5v

now consider back to what a charged battery should be 13.5

here is a thread with a good read.
got a quote from honda in it saying that the charging system doesnt kick in until 2500 rpms
(exactly what i originally said)
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=16032&highlight=storage+idle

and never ever question me again

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ORIGINAL: dangerranger21

Yeah I have a battery tender for it and Im not just letting it idle I will be taking it out to ride im just making sure that no adjustments are comming up on it being that its so new.  thanks for all the help

 
Put the tender back on the shelf.. and ride the bike like you planned. Just be careful or your Bro will kill ya just the same as he trusted you.

I can only assume this reply is directed at me, as I'm the only one in the forum who's pointed out your misinformation.  It boils down to this: Either I have a one-of-kind 2007 CBR 1000RR, or you're just another techno wannabe who gets his "information" from other unqualified wannabes.  As we look into this issue, keep in mind that all I said was the battery is charged (not discharged) when the bike is idling.
 

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

on page 17-7 of our service manual it says to test the charging system at 5000 rpms
on page 17-6 of same manual it says that a fully charged battery will read 13-13.2 volts

 
Fantastic.  How does this support your claim that the battery is discharged while idling?  It doesn't, not by a long shot.
 
 

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now considering that this same manual. the beat all end all of how to when it comes to this bike on storage
and i quote
"for extended storage, remove the battery, give it a full charge, and store it in a cool dry place. for maximum service life, charge the stored battery every two weeks"

 
What's your point?  Did I say anything to the contrary?
 
 

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also consider this page
http://webpages.charter.net/knightslugger/CSA.pdf
knightslugger was so kind to publish this charging system troubleshooting flow chart and you will note that you check initial voltage at 2500 rpms and should only read 13.5v

now consider back to what a charged battery should be 13.5

 
So because a generic troubleshooting flow chart says 2500 RPM should give you 13.5 volts, that means an '06 CBR 1000RR discharges the battery at idle?  Wow, there's an air-tight case.
 
 

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here is a thread with a good read.
got a quote from honda in it saying that the charging system doesnt kick in until 2500 rpms
(exactly what i originally said)
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=16032&highlight=storage+idle

 
Yeah, more bogus information.  You people are like a virus.  The charging system doesn't kick in until 2500 RPM???  What load of crap!!! 
 
 
 
 

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and never ever question me again

I'm not questioning you, I'm correcting you.
 
 
You see, I'm not just some sportbike enthusiast with an attitude, I'm an electrical engineer.  I've been charging sealed lead-acid batteries for 15 years using DC power supplies that I designed and built.  I know a thing or two about this stuff.  I also have extensive hands-on experience with the CBR1000 as I've done extensive testing with the fuel delivery, ignition, and charging systems.  In developing my charging system failure detector, I made several measurements of the charging system performance, and I know exactly what a healthy charging system should do at idle RPM. 
 
So what about you?  Where does your technical expertise come from?  How much have you personally worked with the electrical systems on this bike?
 
We can end this debate right here:
If you have a decent quality digital voltmeter, go out to your bike and measure the voltage at your battery's terminals, write down the voltage.  Next turn the key to on, wait 5 seconds and write down the voltage.  Start the bike (hi beam off) and measure the voltage after a minute or so, record the number.  Turn on the high beam and record the number.  Report back to the forum with your numbers and we'll discuss. 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 

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ORIGINAL: SD2007

I can only assume this reply is directed at me, as I'm the only one in the forum who's pointed out your misinformation.  It boils down to this: Either I have a one-of-kind 2007 CBR 1000RR, or you're just another techno wannabe who gets his "information" from other unqualified wannabes.  As we look into this issue, keep in mind that all I said was the battery is charged (not discharged) when the bike is idling.

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

on page 17-7 of our service manual it says to test the charging system at 5000 rpms
on page 17-6 of same manual it says that a fully charged battery will read 13-13.2 volts

Fantastic.  How does this support your claim that the battery is discharged while idling?  It doesn't, not by a long shot.

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now considering that this same manual. the beat all end all of how to when it comes to this bike on storage
and i quote
"for extended storage, remove the battery, give it a full charge, and store it in a cool dry place. for maximum service life, charge the stored battery every two weeks"

What's your point?  Did I say anything to the contrary?

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also consider this page
http://webpages.charter.net/knightslugger/CSA.pdf
knightslugger was so kind to publish this charging system troubleshooting flow chart and you will note that you check initial voltage at 2500 rpms and should only read 13.5v

now consider back to what a charged battery should be 13.5

So because a generic troubleshooting flow chart says 2500 RPM should give you 13.5 volts, that means an '06 CBR 1000RR discharges the battery at idle?  Wow, there's an air-tight case.

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here is a thread with a good read.
got a quote from honda in it saying that the charging system doesnt kick in until 2500 rpms
(exactly what i originally said)
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=16032&highlight=storage+idle

Yeah, more bogus information.  You people are like a virus.  The charging system doesn't kick in until 2500 RPM???  What load of crap!!! 

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and never ever question me again

I'm not questioning you, I'm correcting you.


You see, I'm not just some sportbike enthusiast with an attitude, I'm an electrical engineer.  I've been charging sealed lead-acid batteries for 15 years using DC power supplies that I designed and built.  I know a thing or two about this stuff.  I also have extensive hands-on experience with the CBR1000 as I've done extensive testing with the fuel delivery, ignition, and charging systems.  In developing my charging system failure detector, I made several measurements of the charging system performance, and I know exactly what a healthy charging system should do at idle RPM. 

So what about you?  Where does your technical expertise come from?  How much have you personally worked with the electrical systems on this bike?

We can end this debate right here:
If you have a decent quality digital voltmeter, go out to your bike and measure the voltage at your battery's terminals, write down the voltage.  Next turn the key to on, wait 5 seconds and write down the voltage.  Start the bike (hi beam off) and measure the voltage after a minute or so, record the number.  Turn on the high beam and record the number.  Report back to the forum with your numbers and we'll discuss. 


 

 
 
 
I have to go with the Electrical Engineer...

    i didnt say that the bike idling will discharge. i said that cranking and idling and that is all you are doing will drain the battery. you are making it out to sound like just letting the bike sit and idle will cause the battery to go down.  no the cranking over and over and not actually bringing the rpms up will. at idle the battery is not charging or discharging it is maintaining. since a battery will drain just sitting there on the shelf not to mention installed in a bike with the clock causing a constant draw. idle will not charge the battery enough to keep it full once it gets drained.

i dont need an engineering degree to prove what i have seen with my own eyes.

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

you are making it out to sound like just letting the bike sit and idle will cause the battery to go down.

 
Uhh, no that was you: "the charging system doesnt kick in until a few thousand rpms so idling will only drain the battery..."
 
 

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no the cranking over and over and not actually bringing the rpms up will.
 

 
And you know RPM is critical because... You've taken measurements?  You're psychic?  The charging system is supplying current all the way from idle to 5000 RPM and beyond, it doesn't have a "kick-in" RPM.
 
 

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at idle the battery is not charging or discharging it is maintaining. since a battery will drain just sitting there on the shelf not to mention installed in a bike with the clock causing a constant draw. idle will not charge the battery enough to keep it full once it gets drained.
 

 
We'll see what the battery is doing once you post the results from your measurements.

    i saw a battery voltage major drop from key off to key on
idle voltage went to 14.4 on a warm bike at 1200rpms
so yes initially i thought i was wrong

with the high beam on idling the voltage dropped very slowly but still dropped
it went from 14.4 with the high beam off to 13.9 at idle with the high beam on after 30 mins of running undisturbed

blipped the throttle and immediatly the meter went back to 14.5 to be exact at 2000 rpms

maybe the charging system is wack but it still passes the tests in the manual.
so you can tell me all day long idle will charge the battery and i will admit that i didnt see a drop until the high beam was on but i will trust the evidence my own eyes showed to me over your word anyday. no offense but i dont know you or anything about your cracker jack engineering degree but i do know what i saw for myself

    oh look another thread that supports my standpoint
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35080&highlight=charging+idle&page=2

hey look yet another that says that starting and idling will kill it
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25917&highlight=charging+idle

another one with that magic 2500 rpms number
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29692&highlight=idle+voltage&page=2
there seems to be a lot people that believe the same way i do, maybe we are all a bunch of idiots but i have been called worse by people i can see face to face. 

i have always been told that the stator does NOT charge until almost 3K rpms. i'm not swearing by this but i have always gone by it.
a good way to tell would be to put an voltmeter on it and let it idle, then rev it......

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

    i saw a battery voltage major drop from key off to key on
idle voltage went to 14.4 on a warm bike at 1200rpms
so yes initially i thought i was wrong

with the high beam on idling the voltage dropped very slowly but still dropped
it went from 14.4 with the high beam off to 13.9 at idle with the high beam on after 30 mins of running undisturbed

 
Thanks for taking the time to check this.  Your charging system is fine, and it's charging the battery as it idles.  14.4V is loads of voltage, there's absolutely no question the bike is recharging the battery during idle.  The high beam test confirms the charging system has plenty of spare current to put back into the battery if needed.
 

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so you can tell me all day long idle will charge the battery and i will admit that i didnt see a drop until the high beam was on but i will trust the evidence my own eyes showed to me over your word anyday. no offense but i dont know you or anything about your cracker jack engineering degree but i do know what i saw for myself

 
Evidence of your own eyes???  You just witnessed the battery being charged.  What evidence are you talking about?  Your buddy's CBR dropped to 11 volts during idle or something?  What CBR was unable to keep the battery voltage sufficiently high during idle?
 

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

    oh look another thread that supports my standpoint
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35080&highlight=charging+idle&page=2

hey look yet another that says that starting and idling will kill it
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25917&highlight=charging+idle

another one with that magic 2500 rpms number
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29692&highlight=idle+voltage&page=2
there seems to be a lot people that believe the same way i do, maybe we are all a bunch of idiots but i have been called worse by people i can see face to face. 

 
Is this a joke?  We are waaaaaay past this hearsay garbage.  2000, 2500, 3000 RPM which is it?  For crying out loud you just saw your battery maintain 14.4 volts at idle.  That's the same voltage it gets when you're riding the bike, when the engine is at higher RPMs.  Connect the dots man.  Do you think your battery cares how fast it's moving when it's being recharged?
 
 
 
 

haha I really didnt think that this post would go this far...

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ORIGINAL: SD2007

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ORIGINAL: baxsom

   oh look another thread that supports my standpoint
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35080&highlight=charging+idle&page=2

hey look yet another that says that starting and idling will kill it
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25917&highlight=charging+idle

another one with that magic 2500 rpms number
http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29692&highlight=idle+voltage&page=2
there seems to be a lot people that believe the same way i do, maybe we are all a bunch of idiots but i have been called worse by people i can see face to face. 

Is this a joke?  We are waaaaaay past this hearsay garbage.  2000, 2500, 3000 RPM which is it?  For crying out loud you just saw your battery maintain 14.4 volts at idle.  That's the same voltage it gets when you're riding the bike, when the engine is at higher RPMs.  Connect the dots man.  Do you think your battery cares how fast it's moving when it's being recharged?

did you even ****ING read my post you piece of shit.

i watched my battery go from 14.4 volts to 13 volts at idle.

reread then go **** yourself

i am done i have proven my point to myself. you can sprout your BS somewhere else.