Oil Change Knowledge???

I do not have a Honda Dealer near me and I am coming due for my 600 mile service. The Honda dealer says I can use Castrol 10-40 or use Mobil 10-40 and just cross reference the oil filter at a parts store and use like a Penzoil Filter. What is everybody's opinion on this? Do I need to stick with a motorcycle specific oil or is there any difference to be concerned with???

Yeah, man you need to stick to a motorcycle specific oil. One that is atleast meets the MA specification. You need to also make sure it is without moly. Also, do a search on here for oils and you will find more than you ever wanted to know.

Here is a link to a site that has alot of info on breakin and oil. www.peterverdonedesigns.com

Good luck

Rob

I am no expert on oils but it is my understanding that motorcycle oils are differant in that they do not have all the additives that are used in automotive oils. Motorcycles do not want or need those additives. You also want to log your oil change in your user manual supllied with your bike and list the type of oil used and milage so that your warranty will be honored since you are doing it yourself and keep the receipt with it for proof.
I have seen that WalMart now sells Castrol motorcycle oil and they have filters also but I don't know if they have the right one for our bikes. I changed my oil the first time but stuck with the Honda GN4 for warranty sake. When I change it the second time I may go with full synthetic as I will have enough wear on the engine by then to use synthetic. I have always heard that an enginge won't wear in properly with synthetic oil. Anyone, feel free to jump in here and elaborate on this.

Oh, come on...you run top fuel, this should all be second nature to you

try this for oil:
http://forums.cbrworld.net/forums/4740/ShowPost.aspx

try this for filters:
http://forums.cbrworld.net/forums/116/ShowPost.aspx

Top Alcohol ChuckleHead.......And completely different type of oil in them!!!

i used the honda stuff until i got to 4000 miles. i went ahead and put repsol synthetic oil in my bike and it runs great

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i used the honda stuff until i got to 4000 miles. i went ahead and put repsol synthetic oil in my bike and it runs great

>So what are you using and do you recommend that weight and brand ?

Whats the best place to buy the Repsol Synthetic? I've been wanting to check it out for my next oil change.

Mobil 1 redcap -- great stuff. I use only Honda filters -- fram makes filters that fit but they are crap.

i got the repsol oil from kneedraggers.com im still using the factory filter though. i think the oils great. the manual says you should put 10w30 i think and the repsol stuff is 10w40 but is full synthetic

Stock oil for the 1kRR is 10/40 ... all 10/30 stuff is "energy conserving" and is not recommended for bikes.

Synthetic can dry your seals earlier I would not recommend using it. Castrol make a motorcycle oil 10/40 I used this in all my bikes for years with no problems. I ge tthe filter from the dealer.

I found this website today, very informative on this subject.

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.html

Synthetic shouldn't hurt your seals. Synthetic IS dino oil that has been refined so that all the HC chains are the correct length. This means there is less burning off and therefore less acid produced which is what eventually kills your oil. Some of the synthetics contain moly which can make your clutch slip. I've never had a problem with clutch slippage with less than 300 hp

pretty informative post...i think i am gonna go with the 10/40 full synthetic from amsoil

I've always used Honda oil. I just bought about a dozen quarts and a few filters. This works great when you have to drive an hour just to get to the dealer like I do.

I cant believe another oil post

dino/synth
it doesnt matter

you can put synth car oil like mobil 1 red or gold cap in your bike the day you get it home from the dealer

mobile M108 car filter is a direct replacement but some honda dealers say that it will void your warranty
i stick with K&N because i safety wire

plain honda GP4 the normal dino stuff has more moly than repsol 4t full synth

When is recommended to switch to full synthetic oil?

as soon as you get it home from the dealer
dont let anyone say you cant either because the honda manual
says that you can use HP4 and doesnt not say anything about waiting
(coincidently it doesnt say anything about rpm limits for break in either)

as long as the synth meets the oil requirements listed in your manual you are good to go
the oil cannot contain moly however, it will ruin your clutch
repsol synthetic has less moly that honda gp4 dyno oil btw

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no one wants to risk their new bike very true

me personally i have never used auto oil but then again i have never been a mobil one fan either

many many people do

me
i switched from repsol to amsoil because in every oil test i read about amsoil tested better

I was told that Silkoline full synthetic is a good brand. That's what I've been using the last couple times. Any comments about this oil?

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Hey Cornerchaser,

Wow! That's great to hear about the Silkolene. I get it from a local shop of stunters here in Orlando. It's $15 a quart, but if I only change it 4 or 5 times a year the price doesn't bother me. I see they carry it on Kneedraggers.com; they have a bunch to select from, so maybe you could start there. I can also ask this shop where they get if from it that will help, just let me know.

If you change it regularly any oil that meets specs will more than do the job. Filters are a bit different, but again, if you're changing the oil regularly and not riding dirt track or someting off the wall like that, it should all work fine.

There are laws about manufacturers voiding warranties because you don't allow them to do the work or don't use their brand of products when you do your own maintenance. They just can't do that. As long as you follow maintenance intervals and don't abuse the vehicle, you'll be fine.