ok looking to go -1 and +2, help ?

ok giuys i am also looking to changing my sprockets so i can "feel" a little more powerful and gain a little acceleration.


So how many teeth do i want on the front and the rear to accomplish this then?  06 600RR, also how can i fix the speedo?  do i need, should i get a new chain?

Thanks

Also what is the best way to lube the chain? and how often should i do it?

thanks again

Optimum gearing change for our bikes is suggested at -1/+2, so 15 front, 45 rear.  Get a speedohealer.  Always change your chain when you get new sprockets, and vice versa, otherwise one will wear out the other faster.  Lube with whatever you prefer, as often as you want (you need to be more specific with these last two questions.)

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ORIGINAL: dragonium25

Optimum gearing change for our bikes is suggested at -1/+2, so 15 front, 45 rear. 
 

 
Who told you that?!?!?!?  There is no such thing as optimum when there is no end goal in mind. 
 
 
 
Generally speaking, racers choose sprockets are chosen to fit the conditions at the track.  More specifically, they want to hit top speed just before the end of the longest straight. 
 
But this doesn't quite apply to the street.  The best you can do is do a comparision of one combo to another and see if its to your liking.  There is no "best" for the street because there is no one sprocket combination that fits every scenario.  What works best for a stunter, doesn't work for the commuter.  Its up to you to decide what works best for your riding.

ok thanks guys i appreciate the help.  i was just wondering what i should buy to lube the chain, and how often i should do it really.

As for my style.  no stunting, an occasional wheelie, nothing else really, the end goal would just be for SotP feeling.

Thanks again, i will keep my eyes peeled, what is average price for the two sprockets and chain?

also my bike has 800 miles... still suggested to change the chain?

when you change the sprockets change your chain... keep the stock parts incase you dont like the new gearing. and sprocket and chain prices veiry based on brand , strength etc  

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ORIGINAL: abadfish
Generally speaking, racers choose sprockets are chosen to fit the conditions at the track.  More specifically, they want to hit top speed just before the end of the longest

Or be in the right gear and RPM range for the slowest corner...

dude ~ i think stock is still fast as hell for me ~ i wonder what its like to ride on -1 n +2 gearing ( pre sure its all in throttle but still ) i bet it kick ass

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ORIGINAL: Nismo6RR714

dude ~ i think stock is still fast as hell for me ~ i wonder what its like to ride on -1 n +2 gearing ( pre sure its all in throttle but still ) i bet it kick ass

 
What are you considering to be fast????  -1/+2 will accelerate quicker but stock gearing will be faster when it comes to top end.

Stock gearing is pretty much the all around best setup for normal use. Lower gearing might give you a little more pick up at street speed but lose top end.. plus you shift more.
 
As far as lubing a chain, PJ1 Blue is my pick. It actually goes on clear and doesnt make as much mess, especially if you put it on correctly. Do this about every 1000 miles. Having a rear stand makes it 1000% easier.
 
Clean the old junk off your chain with brake cleaner. Wipe the excess cleaner off the chain. Go ride the bike around the block for 5 minutes or so (warm the chain and o-rings up). Immediately get back up on the stand, and lube the chain completely, concentrating the spray on the inner side of the o-rings. Spin the back tire by hand several times to work the lube in. Wait 10-15minutes while the lube "dries". Take a clean cloth a wipe off the excess lube.
 

800 miles only? just go -1 up front to see what it's like and then if you want more then +2 in the rear.
i know -1 up front will work with stock chain length but i dunno about +2 in the rear.
 
PJ1 is good lube...i use belray wax.

-1 in the front is equal to + 3 in the rear right?

i have a very good understanding of gearing, and how it affects acceleration and top speed, and to be honest i would love to see a calculator of RPM vs speed in all the gears for our bikes, with stock setup as well as different sprocket setups is this available anywhere?

going along with that i dont think i will ever top out my 600, and that is just honesty, and i would actually be happy if it couldnt go as fast top end being that i could care less about that.  i ride th bike to have fun, and seat of the pants acceleration does that for me.

Thanks for the help guys.

Louie

As far as prices, it all depends on which brand(s) you decide to go with. Some companies such as R&K make "kits" for "quick acceleration". etc., and sometimes could be cheaper than going with "high end" components. But, I'm a very firm believer in: You get what you pay for!. And just like a couple other people said, if you lower your gearing, you lose top end but you gain acceleration, up the gearing, you gain top end but lose acceleration. It all depends on what kind of riding you do. As far as lubing the chain, etc...I personally use PJ1 Blue. After every ride, I'll check the chain to see if it could use a good cleaning and lubing. If I even THINK that it should be cleaned or lubed, I'll take care of it. It's better to be safe than sorry. If your chain isn't properly taken care of, it could kink up, causing you lots of problems, etc., and wear out so fast that you'd have to replace the chain alot. Chains aren't too expensive, I mean, they can be, but again, you get what you pay for...and after awhile, after replacing your chain so many times, you could've had some extra money in your pocket, perhaps a new bike! Anyways, just my own opinion, but, check your chain after EVERY ride! As far as sprockets&chain brands, etc., just do alot of research until you find EXACTLY what you're looking for. You don't want to go spending money on something you don't need, or that you'd not be happy with. Good luck to you, and if you still have any questions, etc., just get back on here and ask/talk away...we are here to help ya!

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ORIGINAL: blk01ss
i have a very good understanding of gearing, and how it affects acceleration and top speed, and to be honest i would love to see a calculator of RPM vs speed in all the gears for our bikes, with stock setup as well as different sprocket setups is this available anywhere?

You mean something like this (excel spread sheet);  http://www.cbr600rr.com/pages/reviews/moto-heaven/rrgearing.xls

This one is set-up for a 03-06 CBR600RR, but you can use it as a base for any other bike, you just need to change the follow info to suit your bike:
6B thru 6G   Internal transmission gear ratios
2D: Pinion Tooth count (front sprcket)
2H: Spur Tooth count (rear sprocket)

As well as the tire size down at the bottom if different than a 180/55-17:

I went -1 front and +2 in the rear.  I think its pretty good for everyday street riding.  You get more low end pull.  A speedo healer is a must.  My speedo is off by 10 mph.  

What is a speedo healer and where can yah get one? How much do they cost typically?
First time i ever heard of one.
 
Thanks

Thanks for that spread sheet, I was about to make one after I started reading this thread thinking it'd be a good idea, then I saw your post.  Time to punch in my f3 ratios

*edit* its protected, wtf?

you can buy speedohealer from www.calsportbike.com for about $100.

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ORIGINAL: Fatboy
Thanks for that spread sheet, I was about to make one after I started reading this thread thinking it'd be a good idea, then I saw your post.  Time to punch in my f3 ratios

*edit* its protected, wtf?

Crap, didn't even notice that....sorry
Easy way around it, copy cells A1 thru J41 and paste them into a NEW excel sheet.  Now you should be able edit the gear ratios and everything else.