plug n play HID

anybody know of a good place (not ebay) to order n HID kit for the 07's?

after riding home in a raintsotrm last night i realized i could use a set of HIDs so any opinions?

xenonrider.com

Question on that sorry to hijack.  Those bi-xenon does that mean that both lights will be on at the same time?  What happens to high beam as well.

no. it means that the bulb is a two in one. they are designed for assemblies that use different light emission positions to alter the beam pattern, like a maglite.

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ORIGINAL: ryman546

Question on that sorry to hijack.  Those bi-xenon does that mean that both lights will be on at the same time?  What happens to high beam as well.

with bi xexon both lights will be on. you would have both low and both high beam on one bulb. just like knightslugger said. the bulbs are built into one bulb. but i think you would have to make a new harness tho. and the bulbs wouldnt fit. it would be a custom project.

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ORIGINAL: elcoomagnifico

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ORIGINAL: ryman546

Question on that sorry to hijack. Those bi-xenon does that mean that both lights will be on at the same time? What happens to high beam as well.

with bi xexon both lights will be on. you would have both low and both high beam on one bulb. just like knightslugger said. the bulbs are built into one bulb. but i think you would have to make a new harness tho. and the bulbs wouldnt fit. it would be a custom project.

no, they'd fit just fine, no custom fabrication needed. they are designed for an OEM fit and finish. as for both on... also no. one or the other, not both, just like a regular H4.

Don't do the kit.  You can spend the same amount of money and do a real projector setup, and get legal results.  I just finished this mod on my F4 and I did a writeup.  If you take a look at the first picture you will see why you shouldn't do the kit. http://www.cbrforum.com/m_503775/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#504930

^^ IT'S NOT THE KIT. You have an older model bike with a headlamp that displays that beam pattern. HID bulbs (nor regular halogen bulbs) display any sort of beam pattern. The headlamp reflectors in the housing is what makes the beam pattern, and that's why you are getting a "glare" as you call it. I'm willing to be your regular halogen bulbs did the same thing. (either that, or the bulb wasn't installed correctly.)

Not bashing on you man, but please do some research before going out blaming the kit as the reason why it didn't work for you. My previous 06 had an the eBay HID kit.........worked absolutely pronominal (the kit even survived the crash and stayed illuminated even when the bike wouldn't start.) My current 07 has HID's now............Perfect. Same goes for my roommates 06, and 07.......and another friends' 08. We all have the 6000k eBay HID kit...........all correctly installed...........each of them having the exact same beam pattern as the stock bulbs, but much brighter and whiter (and no glare to even speak of.)

No glare...........the exact same beam pattern as stock bulbs...........






So please, stop spreading these rumors that the HID kits is to blame because this is just false. Your headlamp was the problem from the start (or incorrect installation and/or incorrect bulb-type installed)

Rather than start this debate on two different threads, just go to the discussion here: http://www.cbrforum.com/m_503775/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#504930  and decide for yourself.

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Don't do the kit.  You can spend the same amount of money and do a real projector setup, and get legal results.  I just finished this mod on my F4 and I did a writeup.  If you take a look at the first picture you will see why you shouldn't do the kit. http://www.cbrforum.com/m_503775/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#504930

i did the same thing that travisgarrison did on my 600rr. its amazing on how much it is different with projectors and hid. i have my high beem down some, so i have both lights on at night but dont have a high beem. you see so much more of the road. if you are interested in doing the custom projectors, i can help you out on it or do it for you.

^^ Projectors are an incredible way of getting light to the road, no doubt about it. But chewing up a $500.00+ headlamp assembly, AND spending near $400 for 2 projectors with OEM DS2 bulbs and ballasts is a VERY hefty price tag to pay when I can get "better than stock, but not quite as good as projector" quality from a $89.00 kit. I can see much better with the aftermarket kit than with stock bulbs, and that's primarily what I was looking for at the time. I always wanted to do a projector modification to my bike (even on my previous 06 model), but it'll be an expensive project (not to mention, even more expensive if I mess up the headlamp housing.)

on the xenonrider.com site how do i know which kit to buy for my 07?

FOX.. i got a 2004 600RR. Which kit to get for HID's? The slim ballasts will be better right?

elcoo, What projectors did you use?  Do you remember how long they are?

BlueFox, are you looking at projectors made of gold?  I think you are way overestimating the cost of the projector setup.

Here is the cost that I have:
2 Bi-xenon projectors $70
2 D2S bulbs $30-$40
2 Ballasts/Ignitors/Wiring $80

Total: $150-$160 ($200 max)

If you are only doing one projector then cut that number in half

For an HID kit, $89 on eBay is for single xenon and many HID buffs consider them poorly made, $140+ if you want a decently made HID kit.  So, I'm kind of confused where you got your number from.
 
Also, I don't think people are listening when I say that cutting is not necessary with the proper projectors.  The guy with the RR put holes in the back of his housing for adjustment screws, but if you fab yourself a bracket, you can use the stock adjustment screws and no cutting is necessary. 

I got a new set of hid's DDM slim ballast 6,000k's  if anyone is interested.PM me.

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BlueFox, are you looking at projectors made of gold? I think you are way overestimating the cost of the projector setup.

I was actually looking at the kits that HID planet has on their site that includes the Bi-Xenon projector, OEM DS2 bulbs, harnesses and ballasts. A couple other sites had similarly priced equipment. I'm looking at either doing 2 low beams and 2 high beams (2 projectors per headlamp) or doing the bi-xenon kit (1 projector per headlamp with high/low HID combination similar to your setup).

What make/model of vehicle was your projector out of? I can find Acura TSX projectors for pretty cheap (much cheaper than when I was looking at them about a year ago).

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FOX.. i got a 2004 600RR. Which kit to get for HID's? The slim ballasts will be better right?

You have WAY more room to hide the larger ballasts up front than the 07/08 models do, so I would say GO WITH THE LARGER BALLASTS. I'm rather disappointed with my mini-ballasts. I'm really looking into doing the projector modification now just so I can gut the headlamp, throw in a projector and larger ballast into the housing and be done with it. The mini-ballast kits don't put out nearly as much light as the larger ballast kit I used on my 06. Hamster has the large ballast kit on his 07 (though, the forks rub up against the inside of the fairings now because they bulge out far too much.........but his headlamps (same color temperature as mine) are MUCH brighter than mine.

So to conclude, go with the larger ballast kit and follow my installation instructions that I wrote up using my 06. If you purchase the kit from the same eBay store as me, get the higher quality "80% Japanese Components" kit they have. The color and light output was better on those than the cheaper kits.

I just finished up installing my hid kit. Thought I ordered the slim kit, but received the regular ballast kit.
 
Had a hell of a time finding room for both ballast's but made it work. Glad I got the regular ballast, would hate to go through all of this and find out they put out less light.

^^ To be honest, you really can't tell that much of a difference unless you had the larger ballast kit before (as I did) or if an identical bike with the larger ballast kit pulled up next to you (and were really picky about details and can pick that stuff out).

I've always had a thing about having my headlamps look a certain way. I can't stand when headlamps are dim, misaligned, scattered pattern, etc. Ever since I started driving I've had this pet-peeve about headlamps (yeah I know, I'm a little odd.)

Blue-  I probably would have noticed. The f4i had a hid kit with the regular ballast. I also have a kit on the car, and my roomate has one on his truck. So one way or another I probably would have noticed, I have somewhat of an eye for detail as well. Just glad I found the space for these things.
 
How much smaller in person is the "slim" ballast compared to the regular?

It's about a third smaller than the regular ballast..............

I bought the BMW e46 projector from a guy on the forum.  The ballast and wiring was from an ebay kit (didn't see a reason to purchase a new ballast/ignitor).  I think he still has two available for $35 each. http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=39764&highlight=
 
If you do the bi-xenon, the solenoid wires can be wired in to your relay (easy).  I don't know if he has any more bulbs available, but you just need a D2S bulb (these are standard).
 
If you buy from the hidplanet store, you are going to pay retail prices for the kit.  If you buy from people on the forum or people on ebay selling their stuff you will pay less.  Its the same thing here on this forum vs a honda dealer.

Bluefox, I was able to keep all of my kit ballast and wiring.  I just had to buy one of the d2s to amp pigtails that come on aftermarket ballasts.  The only thing you can't reuse is your kit bulb. 
 
I had a 6,000k bulb in my kit, and the OEM of course is 4,300k.  I like the look of the 6,000k bulb better, but the visibility of the 4,300k is greater. 
 
I think the tsx projectors are single xenon, so as long as you dont mind not having the high beam, then they are more economical.  The cool thing about the hidplanet forum is that they have posted all the dimensions of the different kinds of projectors so you know before hand whether you will have issues fitting the projector.
 
After looking at the e46 OEM shrouds (which are incredibly popular) you could probably fab a shroud using the same material that I used, but cut similar slits in it to get the "angel eye" ring effect.  I'm thinking about trying it to see the results

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ORIGINAL: travisgarrison

elcoo, What projectors did you use?  Do you remember how long they are?

BlueFox, are you looking at projectors made of gold?  I think you are way overestimating the cost of the projector setup.

Here is the cost that I have:
2 Bi-xenon projectors $70
2 D2S bulbs $30-$40
2 Ballasts/Ignitors/Wiring $80

Total: $150-$160 ($200 max)

i use the acura tsx projectors. dont know how long there are. i bought them off ebay for like 160ish. I bought a hid kit off a different forum sponser, and that was almost 160ish. i didnt want to mess around with cheap hids. all together tho is was about 350ish and was totally worth it

I found a pair of HID projectors off a Lexus RX330 for 65 after shipping on eBay.  eBay seemed to have a little higher prices than the forums in hidplanet.com's site.  I'm putting this up there because it's pretty clear that the prices vary.  If you want to spend $400 bones on a projector mod, then you can, I'm just saying that I spent way less and it turned out fine.
 
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