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D2DGraphix_600RR
11/10/2006 4:44:55 PM
HAHA, Texas has their own set of lawsand does what they want!!! And get away with it, lol.
But most states he wouldnt have gotten off, because the officer was trying to avoid causing an accident by a car sitting in the middle of the road. It was under a controlled environment and wasnt like he was going any further than 15'. But there are afew states that would have accepted a challenge on that appartently. But itshis dumb a$$ fault for driving drunk and stopping in the middle of the road. And either way, I dont see how he still would have gotten out of that ticket because he was driving before he was stopped to, that could have been two diffrent charges because he stopped in the middle of the road.
steve00ses
11/10/2006 4:48:58 PM
actually i have had a few police come threw my work (as patients). and they say that the new crown vics are topped out at 120.
D2DGraphix_600RR
11/10/2006 5:05:21 PM
They must not be recieving the Police Interceptor ones then, because the 05-06 Topped out @ 148ish. They are projected to be around 154 for 07. I am not sure what kind they are getting though
KidCr3nshaw
11/10/2006 5:32:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: vpsophmore
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Up in Fairafax VA, they have a BMW. But is is a convertible 3 series. The license plate is "seized". There is also a pink Lamborghini in D.C. They line up at lights and try and get people to race it, then they pull you over and give you tickets and such.
Isn't that called entrapment? You can get off in some cases if the officer provokes you to do it. For example, my friend was drunk as hell driving on the highway and a cop pulled him over, so instead of getting on the shoulder he just stopped in the middle of the road and yelled out the window "I'm drunk as hell" but the officer told him to pull off to the shoulder anyway... long story short he got the DUI charges dropped because the officer told him to operate the vehicle after he already knew the driver was drunk.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone repeat. If he got off, it wasn't because of that retarded story. All you have to do to make a DWI/DUI stick is to prove impairment, and prove the driver was in physical control of the motor vehicle on a public road. Sure, it varies from state to state - but that's the jest of it. Hell, in most states you can be passed out in your driveway and as long as you have physical control of the vehicle (menaing the keys are within your grabbable/lungable area), you can be arrested, charged and convicted of DWI/DUI.
Also, "entrapement" is enticing someone to do something they were not predisposed to do. If a known drug dealer buys/sells dope from/to a cop, it's not entrapment. On the other hand, if some 16 year old kid with no drug useage history private or otherwise is solicited by a cop (let's just say a female hottie cop) to get them some dope - that's entrapment. He may be arrested initially, but he can get off and have it expunged from his record.
If you drive a Mitsubishi Eclipse all tricked out with the homo-tailpipe and mods and you pull up to a lambo who makes you think he wants to race - and you do - you're fault, you go to jail or get a ticket.
Also, once you run from a cop, in most every state you have become a felon. It's not just speeding or racing, they'll throw the book at you. Careless and imprudent driving, exhibition of speed, speeding, passing a motor vehicle when sufficient roadway does not exist, failure to yield to an emergency motor vehicle, failure to signal during a lane change, failure to stop at a stop sign/light, and probably improper operators license and no proof of financial responsibility. AND, if you really pissed them off, they can count how many times you changed a lane without signaling or how many times you passed a car on the should or split lanes - they can write you a ticket for each offense. You're basically looking at almost guaranteed jailtime, losing your license and being required to maintain SR-22 (high risk) insurance for the minumum of one year.
SO... it's not just a speeding/racing ticket.
D2DGraphix_600RR
11/10/2006 8:38:57 PM
Actual, in Florida, when you get ticket for racing, the charge also posses half of those infractions you listed. Thats why when people run from police like retards or speed or w/e the circumstances my be, you get two or three tickets, because usually the tickets they write you include serveral infractions. What you just listed could be condensed to Attempting to elude police vehicle (or street racing, depending on which instance you use), Reckless or careless driving (depnding on number or infractions you violate), and public endangerment with a motor vehicle.
When you list ehibition or speed, failure to signal during lane change, and failure to yield/stop at a sign, that all goes into one ticket, reckless driving. Reckless driving is 3+ moving infractions in a row in an instance. You arent going to get seperate tickets for each infraction. It all condenses down.
But there are a few states where if it is challenged in instance above described, he cannot plea guilty to a DUI if an officer told him to drive on (however, not many, at all!!). But, in most cases, if it is challenged, all an officer has to do is say he was trying to avoid any further complications such as another vehicle hitting them because they were in the middle of the road, so he told him to drive to the shoulder. Usually, any judge would not drop that charge. So something else, such as paperwork must have been messed up for that charge to get dropped, like I said before. But either way, no matter what cops do, if your in the wrong, yor going down.
Same thing with Street Racing, thats a felony. That can be automatic Vehicle Seizure/Impound and Jail time (at officers discretion). I dont know where you are, but street racing is a pretty big deal down here. 3rd/2nd degree felony.
KidCr3nshaw
11/10/2006 8:51:54 PM
I'm not gonna split hairs with you about the matter...
What you are talking about is called, "lesser and included charges." Where one crime involves 2 or 3 seperate offenses - meaning if you're guilty of the one, you're guilty of them all automatically. True...
But it all depends on the officer and whether or not he feels like it. My time in law enforcement has taught me that if you want 2 charges to stick, throw 10 at them. Judges are notorious for dismissing all but one charge. So, if that's the case, yes you could get a ticket for every improper lane change, etc.
And dude, if you're flipping driving and you are told, "Pull To The Side" that does not in any way show the officer encouraged impaired driving. Come on people... enough of the "one time this guys I knew..." stories. We're all adults for the most part.
fishnride
11/10/2006 8:54:37 PM
The Crown Vic Police Inteceptors that Osceola County can only dream about 148+mph. The cars MIGHT do those speeds before the motor pool gets a hold of them. Then comes the installations - prisoner/roll cage, new rear seats, radio gear, computer/network gear, required emergency gear in the trunk, long guns, light bar, etc.
I've been on pursuits when doing ride-alongs with several LE agencies in Central Florida. None of the in-service patrol Crown Vics have the guts to get much over 120 when pressed.
D2DGraphix_600RR
11/10/2006 9:23:09 PM
Well, your judges must not like to do their job. I am not trying to argue or say your wrong, I am just telling you how it is were I worked. We didnt have to write 10 different tickets for them to stick. If we wrote one ticket, such as reckless, you MAY get is dropped to careless, very rarely however. And anyone who ever challenged tickets in our city very rarely got charges excussed. All of our units had camera and video equipment in them. Which we could turn on ourselves, or automatically turned on with the lights. So, usually, your actions were on tape. It was just a matter of whether we wanted to go through and find it on tape, or if we wanted to go to court without it, or if we just wanted to let it drop.
Well your cars much be deprived here in Osceola and such (I live in Orlando now), cause back were I used to work, ours did that speed. FHP cars top that easily. They dont play. They had the corvettes and such also up in the zone were I used to work. There rear seats they put in are actually lighter because they are just fiberglass covers, or vinyl seats, without all the reinforcement.Our SUV were the only units that had Rollcages, the cars only has metal or plexiglass dividers. The computer stand may weight a whole 10 lbs, and it just depends on how much crap you carry with you (given, there was all the mandatory equip.) but, I dont see why everyones cars are so different. However, I know our deparment ordered the stage 2 package with their cars /truck, which may have made a little difference.
doncollins
11/10/2006 9:57:22 PM
Forget all of the out the cracker-jack box lawyer degree stories here.... props to the 10 year old with the camera. Did you notice how he paused on the license plate!!! It's a normal looking Florida tag. Usually the unmarked cars still have a city or gov type plate that makes them stand out.
BiziB
11/11/2006 4:23:00 AM
lISTEN!!! don't care crown vic!!!, mustang!!!,viper!!! or corvette, motorcycles 600 and up are quicker than cars because they are lighter, accelerate faster, reach top speed sooner and shit like that. and BESIDES police cruisere are v8's wit factory blowers on them and a hotter cam. so stop being stupid please. now about this liscencse plate business, you might have me stumped there( i mean if ur not driviin' sutin stolen that is to say you woldn't run!)
KidCr3nshaw
11/11/2006 12:10:03 PM
D2ME,
Must be nice to have that kind of support! Maybe it's a MidWest thing, but in this area it's quite common for the judges and prosecutors to drop most similar charges.
Hell, in my county, if you get a speeding ticket all you have to do is go talk to the prosecutor the day of court and she'll drop it to a defective vehicle, non-moving violation. Assuming it's a relatively small speeding infraction - 5-10MPH over.
cwmc29
11/11/2006 12:13:16 PM
Screw the police car, how about this police bike
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KidCr3nshaw
11/11/2006 7:59:22 PM
WOW!!!
Outrun that beotch!!!
I'm going there tomorrow to put my resume in
Onarom
11/12/2006 12:50:46 AM
Thats funny- a police bike that isn't street legal.
BiziB
11/12/2006 3:57:37 AM
Well the truth still stands that bikez are faster than cars. A'll I'm sayin' now is that if ur stuntin, speeding or doin sutin stupid then good for you for gettin pulled over. cuz you better not be the guy i hit while i'm driving my kid and fiance in the minivivan to the movies on the highway or street. that's y i hope they commision more cop bikes. but there are still a-hole cops though huh? guess it don't matter. 5-0-....wooooop wooooop, thas the sound of tha beast. thas tha sound of tha Police!!
JBaz
11/12/2006 4:40:41 AM
You all do realize that even with their speed, the rules of engagement restricts cops from following chases at a certain speed after a certain point of a chase that deems the chase too dangerous or risky. It differs from state to state, town to town, but usually its around 115-130mph or how reckless the suspect is driving. They'll back down but have air support and other ground units setup such as spike strips or road blocks. Best way to get away from the cops is to loose them in turns and dense areas such as neighborhoods and then hide... But I don't advocate this. Don't be a tool, stop and don't endanger your life and the lives of others.
Bobthebiker
11/12/2006 9:21:41 AM
I believe in columbus ohio, they've got 2 seized busas that were built into police interceptors. not much running to be done when you're being chased by a 1300cc monster that can actually outrun you.
CBRinPDX
11/12/2006 3:20:40 PM
Police agencies in Oregon have many police vehicles including but not limited to:
supercharged park avenue
new dodge charger
mustang
camaro
corvette
intrepid
thaoe
expedition
f-150
lumina
jeep cherokee
many of the vehicles that are not your standards like Crown Vics are normally unmarked.
Well, enough out of me.
vpsophmore
11/12/2006 4:45:40 PM
my uncle's a cop and he says his cop car can go from 0 to 200 in like 14 seconds... they have a bugatti veyron they confiscated from some rapper and it has a helicopter where the hood is supposed to be so it can fly too... oh and it runs on hopes and dreams so they don't even have to fill it up with gas
JBaz
11/12/2006 5:15:31 PM
My sneeze has been clocked at 160mph...
BiziB
11/12/2006 6:08:15 PM
I don't think 5-0 would chase you in a busa?! wouldn't just be asking you "hey lets go faster!"
i don't really see the need for cop bikes that fast, only for P R and stuff. no police is gong to go that fast on a bike anyway. it's to risky for him to die right??
JBaz
11/12/2006 6:23:34 PM
^police sport bikes are usually custom made for a specific department, donated, or seized and then converted. You do realize in Europe and Asia, they have a much higher number of police bikes then the States. While many cities are trying to get rid of biker cops, Europe and Asia as keeping them and actually increase their amount. Lots of metropolitan areas are converting their police forces to undercover/un marked vehicles.
Besides, our infrastructure, culture, and our understanding is different from Europe or Asia.
rrasco
11/13/2006 9:40:17 AM
no kidding, here is sa they actually have like 4 different colors of undercover cars, they all have the police logos painted on in like ghost flames. you can only see them in certain lights. they have red, black, green and blue. each color is assigned to something particular, like road rage or something else. of course, now they even have silver and white cars like that too. oh yeah, and they are still crown vics though.
JBaz
11/13/2006 2:35:57 PM
^noticed that. Saw a kind of hunter green vic that was unmarked in July. Pulled up beside me. I was like... woah, never seen a green unmarked car. Looked like a trooper inside. Our unmarked Mustang GT's are red and the Dodge chargers are Black.
txridder
11/13/2006 2:49:16 PM
In the highway in west Texas I've seen 3 Chargers and nothing but Corvettes...and 1 Cobra...best way to outrun on of this car is:
1. STOP
2. lock you bike
3. Take off running
4. call a friend
5. hide
6. if you got away with it...send your mom to pick your bike up at the local towing place
6. if you didnt get away...sit as close as possible to the walls in the holding cells...and hope the other dum a@@ in there dont wake up
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