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blackbears
3/22/2007 12:30:26 PM
This might be pre mature but it never hearts to ask for some advice.  Here is the detail I am about 6’1” somewhere between  205 and  215lbs have had my 600rr for just over a year (it is an 03, pretty much stock – K&N) I had a ninja 250 for a year before the RR. So here is my problem, I noticed  yesterday at work that my chicken strips are a lot bigger on the front than on the back. When I got home I measured them and the front they were 24mm and only 8mm on the back. Don’t worry they will get a lot smaller, I have been taking it relatively easy as the tires are new <80miles on them and the roads are still not that clean. My concern is why the big difference!   I am confident that as the condition improve the difference will decrease a bit but I still think I am doing something wrong. On the old tires and had not noticed the difference, however the front tire was worn out in a strange pattern, the tire hate some traces of tread down the middle 1” of the tire it also head a good amount of tread on the end half inch and the part in between on both sides was pretty much worn down to a slick.  Is this normal, what am I doing wrong?   Thanks Everyone!
Tahoe SC
3/22/2007 12:56:30 PM
brake late and hard before a turn, countersteer hard to get that biatch into the turn and your front strips will be gone.
 
why do you want to get rid of your strips? based on your size (6'1")...you're pretty macho already...don't worry about strips...they don't mean anything.
 
 
blackbears
3/22/2007 1:30:55 PM
my concern is the difference and of course, getting better and faster...
thanks.
fishnride
3/22/2007 1:39:33 PM
If you're using so much tire during street riding that you have little or no strips, you're riding way too hard and leaving no margin for error.  Save that kind of riding for the track.
Tahoe SC
3/22/2007 2:55:10 PM
front has to do with turn in and counter steering. my front in the canyons and streets have never been to the edge, but on the track with lots of countersteering, late braking, etc..the front has seen the edges.
 
my advice is not to focus on things like strips and dragging knee...afterall, someone who is crashing will have both.
 
focus on smoothness, clean lines and you'll get faster very quickly...and the knee will drag, and the strips disappear.
 
just know that for someone who hangs off the bike with great body positioning will get through a turn much faster than someone who doesn't have either...with the same lean angle.
 
 
cksean
3/22/2007 3:46:09 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tahoe SC

front has to do with turn in and counter steering. my front in the canyons and streets have never been to the edge, but on the track with lots of countersteering, late braking, etc..the front has seen the edges.

my advice is not to focus on things like strips and dragging knee...afterall, someone who is crashing will have both.

focus on smoothness, clean lines and you'll get faster very quickly...and the knee will drag, and the strips disappear.

just know that for someone who hangs off the bike with great body positioning will get through a turn much faster than someone who doesn't have either...with the same lean angle.



 
I just found out that my body position is all wrong from last trackday...smooth is alot harder than i thought...
woodyracing
3/22/2007 4:22:45 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: blackbears

what am I doing wrong?

 
trying to get rid of your "chicken strips" on the street, take it to the track if your wanting to lean that far in the corners
 
as for why the front strips are bigger on the front than the back, as tahoe said, only under extreme conditions will you use all of the front tire (extreme conditions meaning the track, except for those actually retarded enough to push that hard on the street)
 
front tires are usually designed to keep more meat on the ground in the corners than rear tires
losing traction in the rear is a lot easier to save than losing the front and the forces of braking (especially trail  braking) take a lot of your traction going into a corner.
 
changing geometry under hard braking/cornering also play a large role in front tire usage, harder braking compresses the forks and even bends (flex really, not bending).  This shortens the wheelbase enough to help initial turn in, but if you trail brake hard enough that short wheelbase will make the bike more unstable mid-corner which leads to front end tucking/sliding which can take those strips off  (or send you sliding into a ditch if your still trying this on the street...  )
Tahoe SC
3/22/2007 4:45:06 PM
woody! long time no hear!
good guy to chime in...once in a turn, he dragged his knee and got rid of his chicken strips and what not but the bike didn't look too good after ;-)
but he had the best sommersaults i had seen since pre-school! LOL...
jp mang! you sell the trackbike yet to pimp your SV?
 
cksean...post your damn trackpix in the track riding section mang! i made it a sticky but on one ever posts!  BW is mah favorite!!!!!
hopkinslax12
3/22/2007 5:07:54 PM
excuse the newbe ignorance....but aside from that basket of shit with fries that i just ate.....what exactly are "chicken strips"
abadfish
3/22/2007 5:21:00 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: hopkinslax12

excuse the newbe ignorance....but aside from that basket of shit with fries that i just ate.....what exactly are "chicken strips"

 
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_244727/tm.htm
cksean
3/23/2007 5:14:36 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tahoe SC

woody! long time no hear!
good guy to chime in...once in a turn, he dragged his knee and got rid of his chicken strips and what not but the bike didn't look too good after ;-)
but he had the best sommersaults i had seen since pre-school! LOL...
jp mang! you sell the trackbike yet to pimp your SV?

cksean...post your damn trackpix in the track riding section mang! i made it a sticky but on one ever posts!  BW is mah favorite!!!!!

alright...but you have to promise me you won't laugh...
Tahoe SC
3/23/2007 10:32:55 AM
i won't LOL...maybe a MUAHHAHAHAHHAHA...
tremblemcp
3/23/2007 3:01:23 PM
They will never be the same anyway! if you have the same size chicken stips as the rear then you are the man! i just took my bike to jennings and killed my rear but the front still had some left.
 
 
woodyracing
3/24/2007 5:18:13 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tahoe SC

woody! long time no hear!
good guy to chime in...once in a turn, he dragged his knee and got rid of his chicken strips and what not but the bike didn't look too good after ;-)
but he had the best sommersaults i had seen since pre-school! LOL...
jp mang! you sell the trackbike yet to pimp your SV?

cksean...post your damn trackpix in the track riding section mang! i made it a sticky but on one ever posts!  BW is mah favorite!!!!!

 
 

 
"I bet THIS will get rid of those damn chicken strips!"
 
lol
 
been busy man, I'm at Jennings now (at a hotel down the road actually)
 
still trying to figure out this track, ran off in T10 in my first solo 20 race lol
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