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The Definitive Guide to Installing Vortex Frame Sliders

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kiggy74
1/29/2006 8:43:04 PM
There's been a lot of discussion regarding the best way to install frame slider where the fairing requires modification. After collecting information from all available resources I came up with what seemed the most logical method. Here are some tools beyond the standard that you'll need:

1. A laser pointer of any type with a stable stand.
2. Locktite
3. A hole cutting bit - 1 3/4 in diameter
4. A stand for the bike is also highly recommended



Step 1: Prepare the Bike

Since drilling of the fairing is required it's of the utmost importance that all measurements be accurate. If anything is to move you'll need to remeasure. Put the bike up on the stand and arrange it so the rear wheel is against a wall. This will help prevent the bike from rolling during setup. Remove the fairing from both sides by following the manufacturer's procedures.



Step 2: Arranging the Laser

Next remove the engine bolt that will be replaced with the frame slider. Screw the frame slider bolt into this hole, but not all the way. Arrange the laser on the stand so that it is exactly level to the engine bolt. I used a black and decker laser level that had a magnetic base. With the magnet I was able to attach the laser to a utility light. An tripod would have been easier, but I didn't have one. It doesn't matter as long as the laser is stable and doesn't move. Be sure to measure the distance from the engine bolt to the wall. Also measure the distance from the laser to the wall. These numbers should be identical to insure that the guide hole is drilled straight. Point the laser directly at the center of the new engine bolt.





Step 3: Drilling the guide Holes

Once the laser has been arranged you CANNOT MOVE THE BIKE, so be careful. Replace one side of the fairing. It isn't necessary to replace all the screws, just one or two. Make sure that the fairing is placed in the EXACT correct position. Once the fairing is in place the laser will now be shining on the exact location where the guide hole should be drilled. Use a smaller drill bit and drill the guide hole. Be careful not to run the drill in too far. Just mark the fairing. Repeat on the opposite side.



Step 4: Drilling the Large Holes

The Vortex frame slider is just under 1 3/4 inches in diameter. A 1 3/4 in hole cutting bit should be perfect to fit the frame slider with a little space all the way around. Remove a 1 3/4" circle of foam from around the guide hole on the back side of the fairing. Also tape around the outside of the guide hole to help keep the cuts clean. Using the hole cutting bit, drill out the 1 3/4 in diameter hole from the fairing. Use a dremmel to clean up the inside of the hole.



Step 5: Mounting the Spindles and Pucks to the Frame

Note that the two provided spindles aren't the same size. The smaller spindle and shorter bolt go on the left side of the bike. Put some Locktite on the engine bolts, insert them through the spindles, and tighten them down. Do not over tighten these bolts beyond the recommended amount. A torque wrench should be used. Put some locktite on the puck screws and tighten each into its respective spindle.



Step 6: Replace the Fairing

Lastly, replace the fairings on both sides of the bike. If the pucks don't sit directly in the middle of the fairing you can either leave it or remove the fairing and adjust the size
Turnin20s
1/29/2006 9:31:47 PM
Perfect write up. I'm just waiting for my rear stand to put mine on. I was going to do a write up like yours, but you did such a good job I'll just snap a few pics. Good job it turned out really good.

-Jesse-
fullmetalf4i
1/29/2006 10:14:46 PM
nice job. a little complex but it works none the less.
i acutally used some general purpose grease and put it on the end of the engine mouting bolt. put the fairing back on and drilled the pilot hole through the back with the fairings off the bike....
good stuff
05Tribal
1/29/2006 10:51:48 PM
Great write up. It prompted me to just put an order in to IndySuperbikes. My Vortex frame sliders should be here in a few days and I should get around to installing them just in time for my wife to drop the bike over on it's side this spring. This should complete my modification plans to the 600RR. Well maybe rear sets some day but that depends on if Melissa wants them. Oh yea, I don't own a laser level yet so it is also a great excuse to buy a cool tool.
swang
1/29/2006 11:43:18 PM
Thanks for taking the time to share with us! They look great!
no1biscuit
1/30/2006 9:05:12 AM
Great Idea. Nice job....
kiggy74
1/30/2006 1:13:07 PM
Not my idea, I won't take credit for that. I think DonCollins was the first I heard to suggest the laser method.

I'm glad I can provide reasons to go buy new tools.
no1biscuit
1/30/2006 1:15:33 PM
I will have to buy new fairings so I can get a laser lever and a tripod shop light.
1998f3
1/30/2006 6:39:59 PM
Nice wrtie up, but for those of you who dont want to use a laser and not move the bike the whol time, check this out...


------www.rc51.org/slider.htm-----
no1biscuit
1/30/2006 7:09:18 PM
Yeah I have seen that one but that is not near as cool as the laser one. Come On its a Freaken Laser..... I wonder if it cost 1 millllllion dollars?
Turnin20s
1/30/2006 9:46:22 PM
I went down to wal mart tonight and go a little tripod (not tall enough for the frame slider install but still cool) and the laser level for $17. They were in the tools and came in one package. I bought that one because I can screw the laser level onto my camera tripod and do it like that. I'll try to find it on their website but its going to work perfectly, but if it doesn't its a blast messing with my cat and dogs with the little red dot on the floor LOL they will chase that dot forever trying to catch it.
cjbettis
1/30/2006 10:20:51 PM
totally inspired me too (been putting off too long):

1) is vortex the best?

2) where did you get?

3) how much?

thanks
kiggy74
1/30/2006 10:56:59 PM
I got mine from ronayers.com. The come in two pieces. The spindles come as one piece and then the actual pucks come individually. The benefit of this is that if you scratch up a puck you can just replace it without having to replace the entire slider. The pucks were like $13 each + $25 for the spindles. It was about $50 for the whole sha-bangy bang.

The laser is really convenient because it makes such a small, pin point light. Any by the way, the laser level I used in this endeavor was a $30 Black and Decker that I'd used a hundred times to hang pictures, etc. Its nothing special. The fact that it has a magnetic base just made it really convenient. If you don't want/have a tripod just put the laser on a stack of boxes are something. It really doesn't matter, just as long as it doesn't move.

At any rate, if you don't want to use a laser then don't. I haven't needed silly puddy for anything for a while, but my laser level comes in handy all the time.
Turnin20s
2/1/2006 10:09:21 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: Turnin20s

I went down to wal mart tonight and go a little tripod (not tall enough for the frame slider install but still cool) and the laser level for $17. They were in the tools and came in one package. I bought that one because I can screw the laser level onto my camera tripod and do it like that. I'll try to find it on their website but its going to work perfectly, but if it doesn't its a blast messing with my cat and dogs with the little red dot on the floor LOL they will chase that dot forever trying to catch it.


Heres some pics of the tripod that I got at wal mart

And heres the laser level on my camera tripod


-Jesse-
CBR Chick
2/2/2006 1:36:15 PM
Is it just me or does useing the laser seem easier? I have all that stuff at home, the only thing I would need to buy is the drill and the bit. I will have no problems talking my husband into getting new tools, THANKS!
no1biscuit
2/2/2006 1:44:32 PM
I am sure it would be easy. I really didn't have that hard of a time with the 2.00 tool I bought from
http://www.oesaccessories.com/600RR.html

Just my 2 cents.
ta2av
2/2/2006 2:49:54 PM
What does this $2 tool looklike and what does it do? I went to the link you provided and did not see a picture of it.

no1biscuit
2/2/2006 3:00:54 PM
I don't have a picture of the tool handy but it basically fits into the head of the bolt and has a point on it. When you put it on then put you fairing back on. You apply pressure and the point pierces the fairing so you know the center point. Nothing fancy.

If you would like to see the tool I will take a picture of it and post it if you like (Would be later this evening or tomorrow). I would probably still go this route because I don't have a rear stand to position my bike the same way twice.
ta2av
2/2/2006 8:31:24 PM
Your description of the tool is plenty. No need to take a pic. Thanks though. Sounds pretty simple.
Turnin20s
2/6/2006 9:13:29 AM

quote:

ORIGINAL: no1biscuit

I don't have a picture of the tool handy but it basically fits into the head of the bolt and has a point on it. When you put it on then put you fairing back on. You apply pressure and the point pierces the fairing so you know the center point. Nothing fancy.

If you would like to see the tool I will take a picture of it and post it if you like (Would be later this evening or tomorrow). I would probably still go this route because I don't have a rear stand to position my bike the same way twice.


I kind of know what you mean, but if you have a pic of it I'd really appreciate it. I was going to make something like it ,but they don't have any pictures of it on their website and its $5 now and I think I can make it for about $0.03 LOL. Thanks in advance

-Jesse-
woogie
2/6/2006 11:17:20 AM
Another nice piece of info would be the torque spec for the bases. Looking in the service manual, it looks like 29 ft-lb (front engine hanger bolt). Is that right? I'm still waiting on my sliders to arrive, so I'm not sure if Vortex provides that number or not.
kiggy74
2/7/2006 4:53:52 PM
I think you're right on the torque. But when in doubt, error on the weak/light side. These are cast iron bolts being screwed into a relative soft aluminum engine block, so over-tightening could be disastrous. It didn't take much to remove the stock bolts, so I didn't tighten much installing the new bolts. I also chose to use blue loktite so that I wouldn't have to worry about the torque. Those bolts won't move until I break the bond from the loktite.
no1biscuit
2/7/2006 8:27:18 PM
Here is a picture of the tool I bought. If anyone cares...


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kiggy74
2/11/2006 4:33:27 PM
That would do the trick too.
kiggy74
3/22/2006 11:54:57 PM
I spent some serious time on typing this up, and the question of installing frame sliders has come up a bunch lately so.... BUMP
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