We are all pedophiles

Most of us know who Milla Jovovich is. Well she did a married with children episode. She played a foreign exhange student.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QCaaWxjw6Q 
Fast forward to 2:55 and even continue to watch for more beauty.
Now for the kicker.
She's only 13 yrs old here.
So are we disgusting criminals or perfectly healthy males the way mother nature intended? According to mans' law, we are pedophiles. If you find her attractive that is, which I cant see how you couldnt. lol

No way that's a 13 year old...  That's the story I'm telling the judge. 

lol I did the research. That episode aired 2 months before her 14th birthday
Although if the judge is male, I dont think u have much to worry about.

id hit it

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ORIGINAL: Nauree

id hit it

+1

No it doesnt.   Finding someone (at any age) attractive does not make you a pedophile.    Doing things with under age people makes you a pedophile.


If thinking/saying someone is attractive thats under the age of 18, then that makes every parent, grandparent, and "adult" a pedophile.



Have you never told you niece she was an attractive young lady or nephew was a handsome young man?   


George:   Hey Bob, your daughter is growing up to be an attractive young lady.     Does that make George a pedophile.   No.

Back in the day it would be normal for 13yo on like 18-20yo. Wtf "Biologicaly" has changed to make it WRONG to say that I'd bang her? I dont think anyone has mutated or evolved.

I think the western population has deviated from social standards set by 'Mother-nature' that it has scewed our general populations mental health.

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

No it doesnt.   Finding someone (at any age) attractive does not make you a pedophile.    Doing things with under age people makes you a pedophile.


If thinking/saying someone is attractive thats under the age of 18, then that makes every parent, grandparent, and "adult" a pedophile.



Have you never told you niece she was an attractive young lady or nephew was a handsome young man?   


George:   Hey Bob, your daughter is growing up to be an attractive young lady.     Does that make George a pedophile.   No.

 
You are wrong sir. By the definition if you find a minor SEXUALLY attractive then you are classified as a pedophile. Meaning if you find minors sexually appealing then you are pedophile. Naturally if you dont do anything with them, you arent breaking any law. The problem with this is that many minors are already biologically developed and ready to bare children. We as men are wired to be attracted to that. You would be classified as a sex offender and thrown in jail for doing anything with that beautiful girl there, even though as the animals that we are, it would be perfectly healthy and normal to want to do something with that girl. I hate the fact that so many men are classified as pedophiles which we all are if you find her attractive when the same term can apply so the true sickos who like little kids who are undeveloped. Now that is unnatural and wrong. The same sentences and sex offender registry would apply to this girl as to some child who is in no way sexually mature. Not that im an advocate for having sex with minors. The laws are there to protect the minors because they are naive and easily taking advantage of, regardless if they are ready to mate. And I agree with those laws to protect our daughters. I just feel sorry for the poor sap who would be unable to resist this 13 yr old Milla which if she came onto me, I wouldnt be able to resist. And it would be perfectly healthy as an adult male to want to mate with her. Or am I wrong and am I just some sicko? lol

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ORIGINAL: Manowar Vin

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

No it doesnt.   Finding someone (at any age) attractive does not make you a pedophile.    Doing things with under age people makes you a pedophile.


If thinking/saying someone is attractive thats under the age of 18, then that makes every parent, grandparent, and "adult" a pedophile.



Have you never told you niece she was an attractive young lady or nephew was a handsome young man?   


George:   Hey Bob, your daughter is growing up to be an attractive young lady.     Does that make George a pedophile.   No.

You are wrong sir. By the definition if you find a minor SEXUALLY attractive then you are classified as a pedophile. Meaning if you find minors sexually appealing then you are pedophile. Naturally if you dont do anything with them, you arent breaking any law. The problem with this is that many minors are already biologically developed and ready to bare children. We as men are wired to be attracted to that. You would be classified as a sex offender and thrown in jail for doing anything with that beautiful girl there, even though as the animals that we are, it would be perfectly healthy and normal to want to do something with that girl. I hate the fact that so many men are classified as pedophiles which we all are if you find her attractive when the same term can apply so the true sickos who like little kids who are undeveloped. Now that is unnatural and wrong. The same sentences and sex offender registry would apply to this girl as to some child who is in no way sexually mature. Not that im an advocate for having sex with minors. The laws are there to protect the minors because they are naive and easily taking advantage of, regardless if they are ready to mate. And I agree with those laws to protect our daughters. I just feel sorry for the poor sap who would be unable to resist this 13 yr old Milla which if she came onto me, I wouldnt be able to resist. And it would be perfectly healthy as an adult male to want to mate with her. Or am I wrong and am I just some sicko? lol

I'm not talking about laws.   I know what they are.   I'm talking about the human mind.

something must be in the water.. cuz my sisters 14 year old friends didnt look like they do now when I was 14... the girls were lame when i was 14. now, they all look 18 years old.

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

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ORIGINAL: Manowar Vin

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

No it doesnt.   Finding someone (at any age) attractive does not make you a pedophile.    Doing things with under age people makes you a pedophile.


If thinking/saying someone is attractive thats under the age of 18, then that makes every parent, grandparent, and "adult" a pedophile.



Have you never told you niece she was an attractive young lady or nephew was a handsome young man?   


George:   Hey Bob, your daughter is growing up to be an attractive young lady.     Does that make George a pedophile.   No.

You are wrong sir. By the definition if you find a minor SEXUALLY attractive then you are classified as a pedophile. Meaning if you find minors sexually appealing then you are pedophile. Naturally if you dont do anything with them, you arent breaking any law. The problem with this is that many minors are already biologically developed and ready to bare children. We as men are wired to be attracted to that. You would be classified as a sex offender and thrown in jail for doing anything with that beautiful girl there, even though as the animals that we are, it would be perfectly healthy and normal to want to do something with that girl. I hate the fact that so many men are classified as pedophiles which we all are if you find her attractive when the same term can apply so the true sickos who like little kids who are undeveloped. Now that is unnatural and wrong. The same sentences and sex offender registry would apply to this girl as to some child who is in no way sexually mature. Not that im an advocate for having sex with minors. The laws are there to protect the minors because they are naive and easily taking advantage of, regardless if they are ready to mate. And I agree with those laws to protect our daughters. I just feel sorry for the poor sap who would be unable to resist this 13 yr old Milla which if she came onto me, I wouldnt be able to resist. And it would be perfectly healthy as an adult male to want to mate with her. Or am I wrong and am I just some sicko? lol

I'm not talking about laws.   I know what they are.   I'm talking about the human mind.

 
Im talking about the word pedophile. Laws only apply to crimes. I think i've already said it all, so forgive me for not understanding what you are disagreeing about, if that is even what you are doing.

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ORIGINAL: aaron1085

something must be in the water.. cuz my sisters 14 year old friends didnt look like they do now when I was 14... the girls were lame when i was 14. now, they all look 18 years old.

 
I hear you man, not to mention these 14 yr olds are doing things that they shouldnt even know about yet. Oral, anal, you name it. It's no different to them then french kissing. The internet is to blame because we all know of how much porn is everywhere. And not just plain ol porn, but every kind of hardcore shit there is. They see it online everyday, and young girls since the dawn of time have always wanted to be more like their older sisters and grown ups. This is the behavior they partake in. Couple this with the immatureness of boys their age and that means 14 yr olds have to swallow and have to take facials. Since all porn ends that way, the girls go right along with it because thats how they see every scene end. Our generation got stuck with girls who wont watch porn, think oral is gross and wont even consider anal. lol! Of course there are exceptions though.

Just trying to see where the law screws with moral.



So let me set a scenerio and you tell me what the law would do.



I'm 50 yrs old at a someone's wedding and a 16yr old girl sits by me and I turn and say, "Why you look beautiful today."      That would make me a pedophile?

No it wouldnt. You dont have to say a word or perform an action to be a pedophile. It's just whether or not you are attracted to minors. If that 50 yr old man simply "thinks" he'd like to bone down on that minor he is technically a pedophile. Although most 16 yr olds arent really considered kids so thats a tough call. If he did do something with her the gov't would surely classify him as one. Since most 16 yr olds are sexually mature and sexually attractive I find it hard to call someone a pedophile who is interested in them. Calling them a pedophile according to the definition of the word that is, which you need to go look up by the way. Now if the girl was 13 in your example then yes he is a pedophile if he finds her SEXUALLY attractive. The same way we are all pedophiles if we find Milla sexually attractive at the age of 13. Naturally I understand this is a rare circumstance that probably makes us all temporary pedophiles just because of this particular girl lol. Do we all agree that a 13 yr old is a kid? I do, so that makes us pedophiles. At least according to the definition of the word and for this particular instance. Understand?
 
Edit: Actually Ranger, I see where I went wrong. In my original post I only said if we find her attractive that makes us pedophiles. When I typed it, I meant attractive as in sexually. Sorry about that, cuz you are actually right with your argument in that case.

Here is the problem, let's talk about minds. A 13yr old's mind is almost unviersally not developed enough to make the decision of committing a sexual act. Sure the hormones and chemicals are raging in their body and they know they WANT it, but they do not possess the scope of mind to fully understand what their decision entails. That's why it is illegal to committ acts, and wrong to think "I'd hit that". I did it, I watched that and was like WTF 13??? Problem is, it's still wrong. Also not to be confused with thinking someone underage is beautiful, but considering what things you would do with her behind closed doors is a bit over the line.

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ORIGINAL: Apocolypse

Here is the problem, let's talk about minds. A 13yr old's mind is almost unviersally not developed enough to make the decision of committing a sexual act. Sure the hormones and chemicals are raging in their body and they know they WANT it, but they do not possess the scope of mind to fully understand what their decision entails. That's why it is illegal to committ acts, and wrong to think "I'd hit that". I did it, I watched that and was like WTF 13??? Problem is, it's still wrong. Also not to be confused with thinking someone underage is beautiful, but considering what things you would do with her behind closed doors is a bit over the line.

Most girls dont "feel" aroused untill they are 16 or older.    Makes me wonder why you hear about young young teens having sex.   Guess its curiosity and peer pressure.

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

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ORIGINAL: Apocolypse

Here is the problem, let's talk about minds. A 13yr old's mind is almost unviersally not developed enough to make the decision of committing a sexual act. Sure the hormones and chemicals are raging in their body and they know they WANT it, but they do not possess the scope of mind to fully understand what their decision entails. That's why it is illegal to committ acts, and wrong to think "I'd hit that". I did it, I watched that and was like WTF 13??? Problem is, it's still wrong. Also not to be confused with thinking someone underage is beautiful, but considering what things you would do with her behind closed doors is a bit over the line.

Most girls dont "feel" aroused untill they are 16 or older.    Makes me wonder why you hear about young young teens having sex.   Guess its curiosity and peer pressure.

No offense man, but did you grow up under a rock. As soon as they rub themselves intentially or unintentially the right way, they will feel the pleasure. I'm guessing from a pretty young age its possible. You must have spent a life not too close to girls. Ask some girls you know now how old were they when they started masturbating.

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ORIGINAL: Manowar Vin

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ORIGINAL: rangerscott

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ORIGINAL: Apocolypse

Here is the problem, let's talk about minds. A 13yr old's mind is almost unviersally not developed enough to make the decision of committing a sexual act. Sure the hormones and chemicals are raging in their body and they know they WANT it, but they do not possess the scope of mind to fully understand what their decision entails. That's why it is illegal to committ acts, and wrong to think "I'd hit that". I did it, I watched that and was like WTF 13??? Problem is, it's still wrong. Also not to be confused with thinking someone underage is beautiful, but considering what things you would do with her behind closed doors is a bit over the line.

Most girls dont "feel" aroused untill they are 16 or older.    Makes me wonder why you hear about young young teens having sex.   Guess its curiosity and peer pressure.

No offense man, but did you grow up under a rock. As soon as they rub themselves intentially or unintentially the right way, they will feel the pleasure. I'm guessing from a pretty young age its possible. You must have spent a life not too close to girls. Ask some girls you know now how old were they when they started masturbating.

Going by doctors.   Just cause they masturbate doesnt mean they get the full sensation of it.

Ya know what, this thread is effin disgusting.  What the hell are anyone doing even trying to debate whether it should be discussed or not.  Sorry to sound like a father of a teenager, but!  Keep that sh*t to yourselves on a motorcycle forum.  Sorry to rant, so don't anyone take it personal.

Whats the differenve of us talking about it and you listening to a doctor talk about it on the radio or some place.    A degree?

Alright, I'll bite on this.  Clearly this is a motorcycle forum.  If I want to learn about that, then I can go somewhere else to find out about.  The mere fact that people would entertain this outside of a realm where it should be discussed, assumes that people (like yourself) will try to have intelligent conversation about it, in an evironment that doesn't condone the best outcomes.

Sure freedoms of speech and expression are in and of themselves true, but when it offends others you become the predator of the very same prey you speak of (Not you personally).  And for the record, I didn't even look at the first post, nor do I intend to.

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ORIGINAL: Illushun

Alright, I'll bite on this.  Clearly this is a motorcycle forum.  If I want to learn about that, then I can go somewhere else to find out about.  The mere fact that people would entertain this outside of a realm where it should be discussed, assumes that people (like yourself) will try to have intelligent conversation about it, in an evironment that doesn't condone the best outcomes.

Sure freedoms of speech and expression are in and of themselves true, but when it offends others you become the predator of the very same prey you speak of (Not you personally).  And for the record, I didn't even look at the first post, nor do I intend to.

 
well then stay out of it... easy enough no? You dont like what your reading, then dont read it. This is the sights and sounds area, I dont believe it has to be all motorcycle related. And as a father of a daughter, then this applies to you because dont just close your mind and eyes and pretend your daughter will never grow up. Be a good father and keep her off the damn internet or monitor it closely. Stay very active as her friend and father and she'll grow up a good girl. Or else all the previous info will apply to her as well. Thats the reality. Turning you head from it wont make it go away.

I listen to a lot of Loveline with Dr Drew and I cant count the number of times female callers are raging sexuals cause they didnt have a father figure.  They didnt have a male in their life so they seek out sex with males.  

Illushun- You have a valid point.

I have to agree that the subject of 14 years old girls masturbating is a bit weird (and hawt!) considering the majority here are 21 or older and this is a motorcycle forum.....or at least it was a few weeks ago.


Just be respectful of what you say on this subject because some of the girls you reference for some of your examples is someone's sister, daughter, niece.......you get the point.


I mean, I'm sure there's at least one pedo-forum out there you guys can vent on, no?

Lets just keep it civil and respectful.  I'll be the father figure here...now play nice boys...hehe.