What went wrong?

I was looking at this stoppie and i'm trying to figure out what went wrong? Is it something he did? Is it equipment failure? Could he have prevented it?

stoppie gone bad

Yeah, his front wheel caught traction on the pavement at the same time that the brakes locked up. He could've prevented it by not being a retard and doing a 50 mph stoppie...or any stoppie at all for that matter. Tough on forks and swingarm when it comes back down again.

thats true..and what a wast

sucks for him, thats why you stay within your own limits.

now I know i've heard that you should have atleast some speed going when your doing stoppies as opposed to just doing them while almost stopped liek at a light. I havent really screwed around with them b/c i cant afford to wreck the bike again.

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Yeah, his front wheel caught traction on the pavement at the same time that the brakes locked up

Im not tryin to be rude, but what the hell is that supposed to mean, your front wheel has traction throughout the entire stoppie, thats why it raises the back tire off the ground, the only way that could have happened is if his front tire locked up or he crammed the brake because he got scarred and thought that it would bring it back down like the rear brake would with a wheelie, or something of that sort.

If you listen to the vidoe, that loud squeking noise is coming from the Yamaha. You can tell because it stops when the guy flips over and the other guy on the red bike is still in a stoppie
Also it is better to do stoppies at 30-50mph.

Why??? I just dont' see the reason. He just trashed a nice bike. Stupid

He just locked the brakes -- that's all.

What is the "POP" right before he flips?

least he was wearin a helemt =P but why did he have to trash a bike why he couldn't he just have given it to me? lol I test drove a bike today it was beautifull a CBR-600RR black I liked it my moms thinkin bout takin a loan out to help me get a bike

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Yeah, his front wheel caught traction on the pavement at the same time that the brakes locked up

Im not tryin to be rude, but what the hell is that supposed to mean
Also it is better to do stoppies at 30-50mph.

It means, that when the brakes locked up, his front tire grabbed the pavement instead of sliding, hence the rapid flip over. Besides, aren't you the one who was street stunting with your wheel up and then you almost lost it and did a stoppie right into an on coming car?

Your front tire doesnt slide at any point in time when you are in a stoppie. If it does then the tire comes out from under you and cocks sideways, but it didnt do that in the video, you never see the front tire go sideways in all of the footage that was shot of it, There was either a malfunction or the guy crammed the brake while already up in the stoppie and the tire locked up

I am the street stunter you are talkin about but I didnt do a wheelie and almost lose it, you need to get your facts right. If you would have read the post correctly, I did the wheelie just fine and set it down perfectly, A guy in a mustang pulled out in front of me after I was already done doing the wheelie and slowing down. The bike came up into an endo because I had to cram the brakes that hard to keep from hitting the mustang.

Do some research before you post buddy
Your just trying to pick a fight because I called out your messed up post

With me doing street stunting, and having the experience of it, you should probably just agree with me man, if you dont do any of that kind of stuff than how can you post an opinion against me. Besides in the last post I put, I also said to listen to the video because you hear the very loud squeak coming from the blue bike and a loud pop or snap right before he flipped over.

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ORIGINAL: DThompson

Your front tire doesnt slide at any point in time when you are in a stoppie. If it does then the tire comes out from under you and cocks sideways, but it didnt do that in the video, you never see the front tire go sideways in all of the footage that was shot of it, There was either a malfunction or the guy crammed the brake while already up in the stoppie and the tire locked up

I am the street stunter you are talkin about but I didnt do a wheelie and almost lose it, you need to get your facts right. If you would have read the post correctly, I did the wheelie just fine and set it down perfectly, A guy in a mustang pulled out in front of me after I was already done doing the wheelie and slowing down. The bike came up into an endo because I had to cram the brakes that hard to keep from hitting the mustang.

Do some research before you post buddy
Your just trying to pick a fight because I called out your messed up post

With me doing street stunting, and having the experience of it, you should probably just agree with me man, if you dont do any of that kind of stuff than how can you post an opinion against me. Besides in the last post I put, I also said to listen to the video because you hear the very loud squeak coming from the blue bike and a loud pop or snap right before he flipped over.

Yo man, I didn't say the tire slid. It also didn't roll any either. The brakes locked, the tire grabbed and over he went. He was also too damn stiff on the bike and his weight abruptly transferred to the front, thus flipping it.
You did indeed loose it. You did the wheelie just fine, on the road which is a really good idea, and then the shit hit the fan and you did a stoppie. Anytime you do a stoppie, tire slide etc, you're not in control any more. I think you need to learn riding skills instead of doing stupid ass stunting shit. Good riding is more impressive than stunting.

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sucks thats why i leave it to the pros........................

Dear All time Knows everything about stunting King Sir

Alright, instead of fighting with you because you think your right and are trying to piss me off, I will just agree with you
You are totally right, I agree in every sense that a tire normally slides when you are in a stoppie and that I am a dumbass for even considering that you didnt know what you were talking about. I know you are much smarty than I am, and will always be. I really wish I could take a trip down to Grover MO to congradualate you on how much smarty you are than I am.

I love you and hope you can forgive me for my sins dear lord, Please dont shun me.

Your ultimate fan,
DThompson

Your the most knowledgeable person I know DWHITE645. Please open your mind and spill some of that out so we can all have some.

Dude, WTF? Now you're checking my zip code and finding the location... It's basic physics of what happens when it starts to loose control. I DO NOT do stunting of any kind since it's not responsible riding and a good way to get yourself hurt or others, not to mention wrecking your bike. If you do it fine, I just think it's stupid and it doesn't have anything to do with being a good rider. Yeah, stoppies...I can hammer the brakes stand up on the front wheel keep balance yeah yeah yeah whatever...when you can start hammering corners with precision and follow your line on tight curves while accelerating then switch sides on the seat to take an opposite tight corner with keeping a 40/60 weight ratio on the tires, then you'll get respect. Until then, go ice down your sore rectum.

Who ever said i couldnt hammer the corners. DUDE, I do more twisties than I do wheelies, Otherwise I wouldnt be tellin you how it is. I have been riding a rocket for over 4 years now and I did a whole shit ton of dirtbike riding when I was younger.

You have to have guts to do both hard corners and stunts, Its one in the same. Balance is everything in all places with a bike
Both kinds of bikers do what they do for the thrill and fun of the ride. Not because they think they are endangering themselves or others.

Heres what we are gonna do that way neither of us follows eachother around on the forums just to talk shit and say how dumb one another are.

Im saying this, you know your shit and I know mine, we both have our strongpoints here and there, and our weakpoints.
I apologize for the rude comments that i have made.
Do you accept?

Agreed and we'll call it a day

By the way, sorry about us stealing your post CIUPE

If you look really close, you can see he hits one of the reflectors That marks the lanes at night.

Could, by any chance, the front tire have blown out due to debeis?? There is that bright flash by the front tire right when it goes over. I don't claim to know ANYTHING about stunting. The ONLY stoppie I have ever done was out of PURE self-preservation and it scared the hell out of me.

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ORIGINAL: DThompson

Your the most knowledgeable person I know DWHITE645. Please open your mind and spill some of that out so we can all have some.

You might need some counseling.

forks could have given, the pop, then fast compression and then flip

or,

the wreck sound could have been the tire locking up on a reflector then getting traction again on pavement and thus flip