wheelies

whats up guys. ive been riding for about 3 weeks and i was wondering if any of you know what the secret to a good wheelie is on a 01 f4i. its pretty suped up. i just barely get it up. i want to know how to be consistent. any help would be great. thanks.

to do good consistent wheelies is the same way to get to carnegie hall practice, practice, practice. besides if you have only been riding for 3 weeks you should really be working on other things than wheelies, like panic braking and leaning, high speed cornering, but if you want to try them, and if your bike is stock (no change to sprockets) the only way to wheelie your bike is in first or two clutch the bike up in second gear, when you get it up in first your going to run out of gear real fast, second will last a little longer you will have to learn how to shift while up to get any kind of distance out of it, but my suggestion to you is to try to the stuff i mentioned earlier, and just keep trying it will come to you.

If its your first bike and you've been riding for 3 weeks, don't bother with wheelies or you will end up just as your signature says

good call muz i didn't notice that

i remember when i was at three weeks..... i was still understanding how to really lean the bike..... dude get the lean donw first.....

Wheelies come with time once you have gained great knowledge of how your bike performs then you will learn the wheelies. If you are trying to wheelie with out this knowledge than you will not know what to do when something goes wrong tank slapp or side pulling in the wind. I have seen guys trying to get up on one with out knwledge of what to do when you come down not a pretty sight. Your bike is capable of a lot if you know how to ask for it. I can do stand ups in second with no clutch and clutch bounce in third.
be safe and let time take its course dont cut it short.

That shouldn't be a priority at all to a 3 week rider. How old are you? Trying to impress somebody? You'll look really cool in a wheel chair or body cast, or maybe lose a limb, or disfigure your face. Hate to sound like a jerk or gruesome, but man you gotta be kidding me.

Read this Post. A young friend of mine that had something to prove to somebody. He's lucky he isn't dead, just messed up for a while, and he's arm has a lot of pins and will never be the same. Scarred his face as well.
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_23810/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

Wait until you get a better feel. At 3 weeks you might think you're ready, but you're probably not. Wait it out.

But since you asked.. ;) I prefer 1st gear wheelies, depending on how far you want to ride it out. I usually will take it up to 4500 RPM, hit the clutch, and gun it a little, but not too much, let the clutch out, and once the front lifts up, ride it out. You can ride it out up until about 10000 RPMs, then I let it down, so you can get a pretty far ride out of it. Second gear wheelies are better, but I don't really like going that fast on one wheel. At least not yet. And I've been riding for a while.

If you feel the bike coming out from under you, think fast. Let off the gas, and hit the rear brake. This should help bring you back down.

thanks for the help and tips. although ive only been riding for 3 weeks ive already had my bike 145 in5th gear. i do rolling burnouts and stuff. i just cant help it. i love the sound, adrenaline and everything about these bikes. i just want to know how to properly due things right.

you want to Properly "do things right" I suggest taking the MSF riders course....forget the wheelies...learn how to ride your machine b-4 you kill yourself..Being an x-instructor, I dont do wheelies all the time, i will admit first hand, Im scared of doing them. Complacency equals stupidity...remember its a Motorcycle, not a Unicycle..

cbrhomie600 nobody is saying your not a good rider, but just cause u can drive fast, and do a burn out doesn't mean you can do a wheelie, those things your talking about are not things that you really do with talent, it's more of what the bike does (horse power, and straight line acceleration) when you learn your bike. wheelies will come really easy you have to start off small like you are doing already, and slowley as you get the feel for your bike bring it up higher and higher until you get to the balance point where you can keep the bike up without giving it throttle, but just to get to that point you have to learn throttle control, and once your up on one wheel if you make a mistake things can go bad real fast and that's where the throttle control and panic braking i've been trying to tell you about come in to play. so as i said earlier in the post just practice or just go out and 12 o'clock it and total your bike, just think about what your asking and what everyone on here is saying you've been riding for 3 weeks some of the people that have replied have been riding alot longer than u and i know they know what they are talking about, some people have to learn the hard way

You are going to hurt yourself very bad, grasshoppa. You will break your momma's heart.

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thanks for the help and tips. although ive only been riding for 3 weeks ive already had my bike 145 in5th gear. i do rolling burnouts and stuff. i just cant help it. i love the sound, adrenaline and everything about these bikes. i just want to know how to properly due things right.

If you really wanted to know how to properly due (should be "do") things right you would take a class, take your time, and show some humility towards the bike. Don't be one of those guys that give sport bikers a bad name by turning yourself into a bloody grease spot on the road. Are you even wearing any protective gear? I doubt it.

anyone can do 145....try 167...... its all about time and space......

It doesn't take any skill to go fast on a motorbike, its when something unexpected happens your going to need skill and experience to save your ass. Slow down or your gonna hurt yourself very badly

I am guessing he is very young. Sounds like a 17 year old, or somewhere around there. Riders like him is why our insurance is so high, and AAA won't even insure these bikes.

Agreed. Sounds too young to ride. Unfortunately, you're never to young to die. Hope he heads the warnings and takes it easy. His parents should have bought him a moped.

thanks for telling me the way it is.

You guys are talking about hurting himself, but what about the wife and kids ridding in the car that he decides to run into at 145 MPH. I have been on bikes now for only 8 years and I know speed is fun but you have to have a safe place to do it.

Oh yeah, make sure you are wearing protective gear, big "must have" when trying to learn tricks.

Also try the wheelies in a vacant parking lot, where you CAN'T hurt my wife and kids.

sounds to me like a "need f4i parts" post in the making

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If its your first bike and you've been riding for 3 weeks, don't bother with wheelies or you will end up just as your signature says

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thanks for telling me the way it is.

I think you'll find that the people here are purists that ride because they love to ride, and because they have a passion and respect for these vehicles. You'll also find that they have a lot of respect for other riders. Just wait until you read some of the posts from guys that have bid farewell to the forum because they wrecked so badly once and are now so severely injured that they can no longer ride, or worse yet they can no longer walk or feed themselves. Then hopefully you'll understand where we're coming from.

good job meng!

but you're much too kind to the young lad!
at 3 weeks...he still sucks.

more clutch more gas!

I too have an 01 F4I. I have been riding for about 6 weeks, and at 3 weeks also starting doing wheelies. I have NOT gone 145mph though, that is way too fast on 2 wheels. I did however get on the freeway on my first day out, fastest i've been is about 116mph(speedohealer recall) There are some things I need to practice and work on. But for a somewhat skilled driver/rider. IT is easy to hop on a 600 CC bike and blast around and think that you got it all. Some people just don't have the aptitude for riding/driving high performance machines, and are submisive sheep on the street and are scared. You may not be one of those people, but you must realize how squidly you sound asking how to do wheelies, and talking about doing 150mph.

If you have the stock sprockets 1st gear wheelies are gonna be the easiest to do. Once you go down a tooth in the front and up in the back, 1st gear is going to be wicked. Real easy to flip over with too much throttle. Second gear is much more controllable, however you will be going much faster. I don't even mess with first gear anymore after I changed sprockets and chain, it is too violent and I almost flew off the bike a few times!! Second gear is much smoother. However some days I just won't do it great, and I will realize its just not the day to try and do wheelies if I get that feeling. DO NOT force wheelies, just go with teh flow, you have to practice but if your not feeling it, don't insist on trying harder. Just wait another day. Right now I kinda cooled out on them after a day of fumbling with them. I'd rather go hit the twisties. much funner.

The main thing in doing the wheelie is clutching it. Just use ONE finger on the clutch, preferably your pointer finger. IT has to be smooth, your gonna gas the throttle and smoothly pop the clutch. The key is don't do anyting violent. Practice by starting low, don't gun the throttle too hard, and don't hit the clutch too hard, till you have a hang of it. Its all about being smooth. Once you go up, try not to get "too" scared cuz if you let off the throttle too fast your gonna slam the front down hard, but if you have to, let go of that throttle. The rear brake is the easiest way to bring it down, and your foot should be covering it all the time. Also start the wheelie by pushing yoru butt back some, so when you go up, you don't slide down too far and scare yourself.

Really though, you should slow down and think before you do retarded shit. Keep conscious and aware and don't get caught up in the moment. Its hard but you have to, this is serious shit. Hopefully you get some of this stupid stuff out of your system and grow up and be able to llok back and realize how dumb you were and how you've matured. Hopefully you don't kill yourself first.

Here is a bad picture of a second gear wheelie I did about 2 weeks ago;


Just keep a straight head on. You should wait to do wheelies, and don't fool yourself thinking doing 150mph means you ahve some skill. I did 100mph on the freeway My FIRST day ever riding, that doesn't make me a hero, just dumb. I don't blame you though, we all think our shit don't stink, until we learn better and take a look back. Just be carefull. If you insist on trying wheelies do it in a parking lot, and make sure to wear gear. If you haven't already seen video of people crashing doing low speed wheelies. IT TOTALS YOUR BIKE. Your bike will hit on every corner and damage everything on it. And you will be hurt, possibly severing your ankle off.

i'm a begineer too. My friend has been riding for a really long time n does like 5 mile wheelies. But thats him n not me. I'm pretty ballsy, but honestly, u sound like one of the guys that was taking the safety course with me. He crashed n went down because he took a turn too fast. He said he was trying to take a right hand turn, on a LOCAL road, i asked him how fast he was going, he said around 60-70. N when the instructors were teaching him, he was stalling the bike left n right. Couldn't get the bike into gear and didn't know how to brake at all. I've only had my bike for 4 months, yea i want to learn how to do a wheelie, but honestly, i'm scared because i know if the bike starts to lean sideways, i wouldn't know what to do. I ski n snowboard, i know when i take a jump n start to land on an angle, if i don't adjust myself so that i straight out when i land, i'm going to wipe out. These are the types of things that u need to think about.

Just because u can go 145 doesn't mean ur good. Ur good if u can resist the temptation of going 145 n letting off the throttle when someone is trying to race you. Please learn self control before you really hurt yoruself.