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Sea Foam - 5/25/2006 9:40:43 AM
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jjkukla
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Hey all - Last night I went over to a buddy's house to change the oil on my bike and he asked me if I had ever used Sea Foam before. Shoot, I had never even heard of the stuff. Apparently he puts some in the gas tank of his F4i every now and then and before oil changes he puts a couple ounces into the case, runs the engine for a while then drains the oil. Cleans the internal parts and thins out the oil a bit. I got onto the internet today and it seems like this stuff is really popular with car guys... especially for cars that are not EFI. Anyone had any experience with this stuff? It sure doesn't sound like it can hurt to use a bit of it and see what it does.
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RE: Sea Foam - 5/25/2006 11:11:46 AM
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05Tribal
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IMO the only problem I see with that kind of stuff is that you will always have some residual product left in the engine when draining the oil. My thoughts are if I had to chose to have anything residual left in the engine case after doing an oil change it would be what little bit of old oil that is always left behind. I used to use 5 Minute Engine Flush that is available at most auto parts stores and is basically Kerosene prior to doing oil changes in my cars until a I thought about what I mentioned above.
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RE: Sea Foam - 5/25/2006 12:09:50 PM
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jjkukla
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You make a good point about the residual... but I think it may be 6-of-one and half-a-dozen of the other when you look at the "preferred" leftover material in the crankcase. I like the idea that it cleans all the internal moving parts though. However using it as an oil treatment is only one of the applications. See their web site... http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm Anyone else have an opinion or use this stuff?
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RE: Sea Foam - 5/25/2006 12:13:20 PM
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OldFatGuy
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I have never used it, but probably will when winter time rolls around again. My wife doesn't ride in the winter, so now I'm having troubles getting her bike to run right. I've heard for years that this stuff is good to use when storing a bike for long periods of time. Don't know about using it as a regular preventative maintenance thing. quote:
ORIGINAL: jjkukla You make a good point about the residual... but I think it may be 6-of-one and half-a-dozen of the other when you look at the "preferred" leftover material in the crankcase. I like the idea that it cleans all the internal moving parts though. However using it as an oil treatment is only one of the applications. See their web site... http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm Anyone else have an opinion or use this stuff?
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RE: Sea Foam - 5/26/2006 12:46:25 AM
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uansari1
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If you guys are serious about cleaning the internals of your engine, look up Auto-Rx. It's a parrafin based product that gently cleans engine internals over the course of a couple of oil changes. Seafoam is good for the fuel system though... just be sure to use less than the recommend amount in carb'd motors, as it lowers the octane of your fuel somewhat.
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RE: Sea Foam - 5/26/2006 2:08:32 AM
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dwhite645
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It might mess with the friction plates of the clutch.
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RE: Sea Foam - 5/29/2006 12:44:16 PM
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weeble1
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I used it on my car, the car is fuel injected tho. I had a serious problem with starting my car after I used it. I may have used too much but my experience with it is not very good. My car smoked and would not start cold for about 2 weeks. It's up to you but I won't't use it anymore.
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RE: Sea Foam - 6/5/2006 10:36:54 AM
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jjkukla
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FYI: I finally put a couple ounces of Sea Foam into the gas tank this weekend after a fill-up and took it for a quick 60 mile trip to let it do it's thing. The performance "boost" is similar to adding a K&N filter I believe! I cannot honestly say that I noticed a major difference, but it certainly did not hurt the bike at all. There may have been a little better throttle response with cleaner injectors, but who knows? My sense of feel for that "increase" isn't that keen! I also noticed a little smoke coming from the Yosh, but from everything I read about the product - that is normal when added to your fuel. I guess if my bike was a lot older and had really dirty injectors/carbs then I would certainly recommend it. But like I said, it certainly didn't hurt it one bit. Think I'll drop a few ounces in the oil prior to the next change - buddy said it works really well for him. Then maybe I'll use it again for winter storage.
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RE: Sea Foam - 9/13/2006 5:27:55 PM
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FATHEADS1KRR
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Have been working as an auto mechanic for 15 years, got turned on to the Sea Foam about 5 yrs ago by a friend who suggested using it to try and free up a siezed engine, and believe it or not, it worked !! (used engine that turned out to have been in a flooded vehical) Have used it since then in all my cars/boats/bikes/airplanes. Stuff is THE POO !! You def don't want to leave it in the crankcase for a long time, but i'll run mine for a day or two w/ about 1/3 of a can in it then change the oil. Have never had trbl w/it effecting the clutches or anything of the sort. Some in the gas helps too, to keep out moisture, and for winter storage. The inside of the engine in my dakota looks like brand new after 100k miles. Have never been a fan of "fix in a can" type of stuff, but you can't go wrong w/seafoam, unless you get carried away w/it and use too much. GOOD STUFF !!!
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RE: Sea Foam - 10/2/2006 1:33:51 PM
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FATHEADS1KRR
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I don't think your in the minority at all !! Most people don't buy into the "snake oil" thing for good reason. Most of it is crap, and if didn't see what this stuff does for myself, i would call bs on it too. As a fuel stabilizer, it would be worth twice the asking price, and by no means does it do anything majical, but i have used it to free up several seized engines (auto) and have used both the reg sea foam, and the trans tune regularly at my shop for the last 5 years. Like i said, you def don't want to just dump a bunch in the crank n forget it. It does thin the oil (depending on how much you use) and WILL damage the engine if misused, but the way this stuff breaks down carbon and oil sludge that most engines (even the well cared for) have in them, really is incredible. Its the ONLY additive i have ever found that works as advertised, and doesn't have any neg affects, or any that i, or my customers have found yet. Lil story for ya : old lady w/a 80 sumthin ford fairmont (yuk), car WILL NOT pass MO. emission test, even after tune, timing...... e/thing we could think of to get this car to pass. Also had real low compression (65-70 lbs). Ran two cans of sea foam thru the gas, and 1 in the crank/oil. Told her to drive it for 3 days and return to the shop. Complained about the smoking, said it had to be worse cuz it now smoked. Took it to get sniffed the next day, and it passed !! Not only did it pass, but it brought compression up across the board by about 12 lbs !! Not a good example of why to use it in your bike, esp a new bike, but this stuff really does work. BS me if you wanna, i would too, but ive seen it work. btw, it did stop smoking after she ran that tank out n filled up w/untreated gas.
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RE: Sea Foam - 10/3/2006 9:40:57 AM
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FATHEADS1KRR
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I think some products like this get a bad rap cuz sales/reg people get a lil carried away about what it can do. It won't solve every problem, no "fix in a can" type stuff will. I use it to keep my crank case clean, as a stabilizer, and to help break down old gunk. The fuel and oil of today has all of the stuff in it anyone should norm need. I haven't put any in the 06 1krr yet, as i know it doesn't need it , but i will, w/no hesitation in the future. I've got a tech that works for me who swears by an oil addative that i wouldn't put in my lawn mower, and he dumps it by the quart into his BRAND NEW ram 1500 !! I just shake my head n walk away. He points to the lil countertop display for the stuff as proof that it works. I said "If your truck had plastic gears runnin at room temp, i would agree, but you could put gear oil in that display n get the same result !! would you put gear oil in your trucks engine ??"
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RE: Sea Foam - 10/3/2006 10:24:17 PM
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moahdriven
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I was also thinking of running some sea-foam through my F3, quick question though...for you guys that have already done it exactly how much did you put in your fuel and oil tank in terms of ounces? 2 or 3? Also, for all the in a bottle fuel cleaners do they have ones specified for carburetor engines cuz I'm assuming I shouldnt dump a bottle of fuel-injector cleaner into my carb engine? I just dump the entire thing into my car but is it safe to dump that much into a motorcycle engine or should half be used or maybe a qtr?
< Message edited by moahdriven -- 10/3/2006 10:36:26 PM >
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