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RE: Cam Chain Theory - 7/13/2006 4:52:32 PM   
Marlowe13

 

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Where do you get one of these manual chain tensioners? APE right? Mine makes a bit of noise on start up, but not once it's running. How involved is installing the tensioner?

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RE: Cam Chain Theory - 8/21/2006 11:17:46 PM   
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APE tensioners can be found a number of places, just run a google on it.

The procedure it self is just hard enough I say let a pro do it. One thing you do not mess with is cam timing. Just ask Suzuki about 2001/2002 GSXR's and how many engines they bought back.

If you are worried about your tensioner, put your ear near the right side of the engine head when you cold start it. Listen for a rattling noise. A little for a few seconds is acceptable, as oil pressure comes up. After that.. swap it.

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RE: Cam Chain Theory - 8/22/2006 5:26:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wayne_carey

the genunine honda cam chain tensioners are shit, buy a manual tensioner and all you will have to do is tweek it up every service, no big drama.


Sorry have to disagree with you on the Honda tensioners being SHIT. as you call it, you have to be really careful with these manual tensioners, because most of you don't know what your doing! Putting too much tension on the cam chain is gonna cause it to wear out real soon, & thats just what your doing if your tightening EVERY SERVICE,
The right way to make sure you have enough tension on the cam chain with a manual CCT is to take the CAM COVER OFF and feel the tension on the chain,

The main reason the HONDA CCTs fail is 'cause people don't realise the gasket only goes on 1 way, put it on the wrong way & it causes excess oil pressure in the CCT making it fail over time,

most of you with little or no mechanical knowledge are gonna be in this thread again in 12 monthes wanting to know how much or how to change the Cam chain, because they overtightened the CCT, I wish I was wrong and hope you prove me wrong but we'll see in a year.


< Message edited by mikequinn -- 8/22/2006 5:27:17 AM >

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RE: Cam Chain Theory - 8/27/2006 1:30:24 AM   
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I dont know, it seems like every CBR from the Hurricanes to F4is had CCT problems. Is also common on 929's and XX's. I know Honda can make good ones, but why they dont'/havent is beyond me. I've heard guys say the CCT for a 599 (Hornet) works on an F3 and is solid. The XX guys use the one off a Japan only X-11 and it's a brick. Why can't we get good ones for these bikes.

Manual tensioners are fine if you follow the directions on adjusting them.

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RE: Cam Chain Theory - 10/26/2007 8:36:25 AM   
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i got a 1992 250 fireblade an i dont have a clue how this chain works where it is or what i need to move can any one help ...

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RE: Cam Chain Theory - 10/26/2007 12:06:20 PM   
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Go to this link
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7935539989040328587
That's how the cam chain tensioner issue sounds. I've since replaced mine with an APE manual tensioner.
The entire job takes 15 minutes. You can defintiely hear when you need to stop tightening. There is a how to section!!

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RE: Cam Chain Theory - 10/26/2007 4:33:10 PM   
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Here's my post from a while back...Check it out!
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_393805/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#393805
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