RE: 2nd gear stand ups
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/15/2006 9:47:28 PM
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Turnin20s
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Just wanted to chime in and say that I finally got the balls to start doing stand-ups, I don't know why it took me so long but I'm lovin it LOL. I can ride them in 2nd gear alot longer than my sit-downs. I bounce it up instead of clutching it. Just blip the throttle and pull back, I usually start at about 40-50mph and pull it up without any problems, no clutch. I do have one question, if your doing long wheelies is there anything that should be done to the bike? Someone told me that I should add an extra quart of oil, but thats doesn't sound like it would be a good idea. I don't just stunt, I ride alot of miles and do alot of wheelies here and there. Let me know. Thanks for the advice guys, but I think the best advice for someone that wants to try standups is just get off the damn computer and go do it LOL. Just take it slow and practice. I have been trying standups for about a month and I just got it down about 2 days ago, so take your time.
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ok when you ride long wheelies xtra oil is a good idea. but by long they mean minutes at a time at least a mile or slow shit in a lot . so unless your there dont even worry about it
Well I would say that my standup wheelies can be ridden a few miles, not sure how long but I get tired and set it down before the bike runs out. I'm working on getting them up then slowing down to a highway speed so I'm not riding them a 90 mph but working on getting to 65-75 mph consistantly. Mabye I could add a half a quart for some extra protection or would it hurt the bike when I'm just cruising? What about the oil pickup? Where can you get those, I may be interested.
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/16/2006 6:33:10 AM
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Spike
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I finally got the front wheel up in the air using the clutch on my way home from work this morning. Came up about 2 feet each time. Started out I think about 20mph and slipped the clutch some, can't remember to what RPM. Felt really good to do them slower, I had been doing power wheelies which start at about 30-35 in first and basically go till redline (seems too fast to be starting out). So I'm going to practice some more soon, once I have a better handle on the clutching part I'm going to try standups. I want to be able to ride out some wheelies as it seems like a lot of fun. Also, it seems that slower is better for learning so that if you mess up, you will probably cause less damage to your bike than if you're going 50-60 MPH.
I need frame sliders ASAP!
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/16/2006 4:43:20 PM
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stuntn_r6
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actually a cage is gonna run closer to 250-300$
balance point is scary at first but you kinda get used to it...#1 rule in my opinion, is ALWAYS COVER THE BACK BRAKE!!!
i've seen a few people fall by not doing this, if you give it a little too much and come back farther than BP your going over unless you can get on the brake...
once your getting them up there consistently the brake is the biggest part of your wheelie...when i bring mine up, i catch it with the back brake and ride it the whole time...thats how you control how far back you go, you have to keep the throttle the exact same..
also, if your using your throttle to control the wheelie, and its choppy (which it will be) thats when the bike wants to start goin back and forth (left and right) and that is scary....
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/16/2006 6:16:14 PM
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WRX_CBR
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What rpms are you guys usually at when you dump the clutch?
*I would like to see a video.
< Message edited by WRX_CBR -- 6/16/2006 6:19:36 PM >
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/16/2006 7:14:46 PM
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Here is a video I copied from another thread:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466&q=motorcycle
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/16/2006 8:43:14 PM
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Steeviee
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Batwing I love your sig!
Nice helmet BTW!
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i usually do this in first gear , its a bit harder in second without help from the clutch
im rolling around 7k rpms then gun it to about 11k let off , and then snap the throttle and pull back on the bars.. works for me
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/17/2006 3:14:32 AM
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Black
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Tonight what was working for me in 2nd was around 55, clutch into the almost the limiter (about 14) then easing off the clutch. I still havent been able to ride on the bp, but I think if I get to lettin the clutch out sooner will go a long way. Shit is fun though. btw when I got back, the bike was idling low, then when I came to a full stop in the garage it died. The oil light came on. Do I need to add any parts or just throw some extra oil in there?
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/17/2006 3:29:28 AM
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mazdajoe
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Tonight what was working for me in 2nd was around 55, clutch into the almost the limiter (about 14) then easing off the clutch. I still havent been able to ride on the bp, but I think if I get to lettin the clutch out sooner will go a long way. Shit is fun though. btw when I got back, the bike was idling low, then when I came to a full stop in the garage it died. The oil light came on. Do I need to add any parts or just throw some extra oil in there?
The oil light only came on because the bike died.
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/17/2006 9:02:02 AM
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Black
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Oh. It was comming on a couple nights ago while I was doing wheelies but the bike was still idling, so I figured this was still related. It didnt come on today until after it died.Maybe ill throw a little more in it next time.
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/17/2006 8:45:23 PM
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ride_002000
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I have been tryin to do stand-ups for a couple days and can only get it up a few inches...and it scares the shit out of me, I feel like I have no control... and im 6'2" so that doesnt help...but I will keep practicing and if anyone has some tips for me let me know. thanks
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/17/2006 11:45:14 PM
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Turnin20s
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Tonight what was working for me in 2nd was around 55, clutch into the almost the limiter (about 14) then easing off the clutch. I still havent been able to ride on the bp, but I think if I get to lettin the clutch out sooner will go a long way. Shit is fun though. btw when I got back, the bike was idling low, then when I came to a full stop in the garage it died. The oil light came on. Do I need to add any parts or just throw some extra oil in there?
Sounds like you have a problem, but I don't think its got anything to do with your wheelies. I have almost 8500 miles on my bike and the last 3500 have had plenty of wheelies. Did it ever do the oil light thing or anything else before you started doing wheelies? My oil light has never come on and the bike has never idled low or killed after doing them. I would like to think my wheelies are pretty high, they ride at the same rpm and I usually get tired and have to set it down before I run out of gear. I think I need to start working out LOL, those standups are killing my arms right now. Hopefully soon we will be making a short vid and then I can see how they look. I hope yu get your bike figured out, have you checked the oil level lately? I've never heard of that before, but I hope it figure it out soon.
-Jesse-
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/18/2006 7:30:10 AM
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twistatech
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i am also 6'2'' and i think it is different for us tall guys.i just learned friday me being 6'2'' i feel better not leaning back and just standing straight up,the tank will come and rest right against my crotch and i can ride em like that... but turnin20s leans back so i guess it is up to you what way you want to do it.. like turnin20s said (the only guy thats man enough to ride with me all the time) we have just recently learned stand ups and at first all we could do was get it a couple of inches off the ground. then we were like screw that !!! but then all of a sudden he goes flying by me front wheel in the air standin up hanging off the right side of the bike trying to turn a little to the right... so i guess you just keep going untill you say screw it and jump it all the way up... anyways the way we do it is go in second(f4i's geared -1 in the front) untill the power band and then stand up and bounce down, when the bike comes back up give it SOME throttle(this is what nobody ever says and what makes it so scary) i always wondered what it felt like once you got it up there , it aint that bad ,you would think the bike would move alot and feel unstable but it really dont that much, it just moves front and back for me, front aint no big deal. but it will scare the hell out of you when it goes back so just cover the rear brake , i cover the rear brake and have not had to use it yet. just had to let off the throttle. but have had a few scares so be ready for that .....now when I get it up there i just pay attention to the dips in the road and try to keep the bike right there. we are not the kings of wheelies by no means but we are probably the best for where we live. we just practice alot(and by alot i mean 70miles of just straight wheelies,everytime we ride) nothing comes overnight .. but if your gonna do it, do it right and be semi-safe , there is no REAL safe way to do it .i am sick of everybody saying that its dumb and not safe and your gonna kill your self blah blah blah ... you could die anytime doing anything, i would rather be on the bike doing something i love.... you know! ...... but it looks cool as hell ,i am going to try to get out and shoot some video of the clutch wheelies in first , clutch one handed wheelies and some sit downs in second, along with the stand ups of course, today if we go out and practice. i will try to get the videos up quick. good luck and dont wreck!!! so when you guys get stand ups down go impress some chicks.... by the way we always wear our gear when doing any wheelies , helmet, jacket,gloves.jean pants not shorts or windbreakers ... shoes not sandels !!!!! like my dad always said "take her ez and if shes ez take her twice" peace
Ben
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 6/18/2006 1:56:23 PM
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ride_002000
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Thanks alot Ben.. I appreciate the advice, my gearing is -1 +2 and I was trying to clutch it up but Im gonna try bouncing it up today.
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