RE: 2nd gear stand ups
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/6/2006 3:35:14 AM
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Turboedsupe
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Your at the right speed for a second gear wheelie maybe just a tad bit faster. And you dont need to look at the tach just turn the throttle and dump the clutch. If you shoot up too fast for your liking give it a lil less gas and if your not getting high enough give it a lil more and stay in the throttle till you get high then ease off or ride your rear brake a lil bit. When people say they rev to a certain rpm i just laugh its not like you keep it at a certain rpm then drop the clutch. I go from cruising thottle pull the clutch in a lil bit twist the throttle another half turn and drop the clutch thats for a 2nd gear wheelie. I dont judge a launch from my rpms i just dont it all real fast i dont give it time to hit rev limiter or anything. Also dump the clutch dont slip it that wont get you anywhere and trust me after a shit load of launches my clutch still grips like it was brand new power wheelies are what kills your tranny
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/6/2006 6:16:32 AM
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Spike
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Ok I did my first few wheelies the other day. I am going about 30-38 in 2nd sitting down. pull in the clutch rev to about 8-10k rpms and just pop the clutch out real fast, the fronts coming up but doesnt seem high at all and its not up for very long. Also I feel like im hurting my bike :-( !! LOL.
HEy spike, If i can get to where your at right now in those videos I'd be pretty satisfied. How are you doing those? What gear/speed/ rpm are you reving to and letting the clutch out??
IS there a difference between SLIPPING the clutch and POPPING the clutch? Im just poppin it out,,,,, should I be slowly letting it out??
From what I've read you're really not hurting the bike any.
I'm going about 20 in first and pulling in the clutch, reving real fast and popping the clutch out pretty quick. Don't just let it SNAP out but let it out real fast. It's one smooth motion and it brings the front wheel up well (or spins the back tire if you've got some water / dirt on it haha). Just keep practicing you'll get it. I've only been messing with this for a couple weeks so, much to learn. I have only gotten it up once in second (as in the front came up more than 6"). Keep at it!
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/6/2006 8:10:55 AM
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Turnin20s
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ORIGINAL: Turboedsupe
Your at the right speed for a second gear wheelie maybe just a tad bit faster. And you dont need to look at the tach just turn the throttle and dump the clutch. If you shoot up too fast for your liking give it a lil less gas and if your not getting high enough give it a lil more and stay in the throttle till you get high then ease off or ride your rear brake a lil bit. When people say they rev to a certain rpm i just laugh its not like you keep it at a certain rpm then drop the clutch. I go from cruising thottle pull the clutch in a lil bit twist the throttle another half turn and drop the clutch thats for a 2nd gear wheelie. I dont judge a launch from my rpms i just dont it all real fast i dont give it time to hit rev limiter or anything. Also dump the clutch dont slip it that wont get you anywhere and trust me after a shit load of launches my clutch still grips like it was brand new power wheelies are what kills your tranny
Why are power wheelies so much harder on the tranny? I can't wrap my mind around it for some reason. I do clutch up my sitdown wheelies, but when I do my stand ups all I do is blip the throttle and it comes straight up, no chasing or anything. I have delt with building and modifying cars, and from my background its like saying that a burn out with a car from dumping the clutch is less hard on your parts than taking off and mashing the gas and getting the tires turning, you know what I mean? Think of it like this, you are at a stoplight getting ready for a hard launch (with your car). You push in the clutch and rev it to 3500rpms the light turns green and you dump the clutch and tear off. You are putting a massive strain on all of your drivetrain parts from that sudden jolt, compared to sitting at the light waiting for the light to turn with your car idling, the light turns green and you take off normal, but once the clutch is all the way out you mash the gas. This one everything is already turning so its not so much of a strain. I don't know LOL I just got done work and am rambling about something that really doesn't matter LOL
Back on topic, I clutch the hell out of my 2nd gear wheelies. I'll be rollin between 45-60 in 2nd pull the clutch in rev it up and let out the clutch, took me a while to get the feel for it, but don't be afarid to give it some rpms. I noticed that when I was starting them when I'd let the clutch out I'd back off the throttle. Wait until the front tire is up and then either catch it with the rear brake or back off the throttle to balance it out. All I know is when I'm sitting down I can't see sh*t if I try to look straight ahead, I have to stick my head to either side to see where I'm going.
Another quick question, anyone trying spreader wheelies yet? I want to learn how to do it without bashing my tank in. If you are doing them let me know what your doing. I'm getting a new rear tire in the next few days so I'll be tearing it up again and I want to learn the spreader wheelie, or a highchair, but I think I'll wait a little while for that LOL
-Jesse-
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/6/2006 1:36:39 PM
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06CBRF4i
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Spike, yours look pretty good to me for only doing them for a few weeks, I've done it maybe a few days worth and when the front came up it couldnt have been 6" or more i know they were weak but im still getting used to it! LOL I just feel like Im hurting my baby!! :-( LOL Well Im off to go practice some more I'll post again when I get back!! Wish me luck!!
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/9/2006 5:34:28 AM
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Turnin20s
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Hey check the link, me and twistatech finally god a short vid put together. Its a few weeks old, so we have gotten alot better since then, this video was shot only about a week after we figured out how to do standups.
<----CLICK 4 WHEELIES---->
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/9/2006 11:38:46 AM
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ride_002000
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Love the video, nice stand-ups. I still cant ride them, I can just bring it up then they set right back down. But my sit downs a great.
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/9/2006 4:01:05 PM
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Spike
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Yes, very nice video! I am still kinda sucking at clutching up second (did one and it flew SKY HIGH before I knew what the hell happened lol) but I tried a couple with my left foot on the pass. peg and they seem to come up a lot easier. I'm going to try some with both feet on the regular pegs but standing up.
What in god's name was that awful crashing sound at the end of the video!??!
Oh, and are you guys bouncing them up in second or just using the clutch? It looked like some of the time you were yanking on the bars. Everytime I try to yank the front wheel gets all crooked, so I try not to.
< Message edited by Spike -- 7/9/2006 4:06:27 PM >
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/9/2006 4:01:37 PM
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twistatech
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cover your rear brake and let the bike come up to your crotch. the first step is getting them up after that its gravy and you can do them how ever you want. the hardest part at the beggining is gauging how high you are thats why i say bring them to your crotch. just use throttle control and use the brake if you get in trouble. once you get it up , the rest of the practice is easy. you just get better and better. be safe and wear your gear always!!!
peace
Ben
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/9/2006 4:07:41 PM
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twistatech
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hahaha the crashing we put in there to remind you. that it can happen!!! audio crashing is the best way to remind you of it cause it draws all of your attention... be carefull out there, wear your gear and dont be a dumb ass you will do fine... this video was made specifically for this post. it just took forever cause my computer was being a piece and didnt wanna let me make a video. so i had to do a full system recovery... we will be making another video soon keep your eyes open...
we arent really yanking on the bars we are bouncing the bike, like you would on a trampoline. but i would say i am pulling on the bars too but not yanking. just keep the wheel straight and you wont have a problem...
< Message edited by twistatech -- 7/9/2006 4:10:23 PM >
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/9/2006 4:36:35 PM
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Turnin20s
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Yeah it does look like we are yanking the bars, but not really, just bouncing it and leaning back to raise the bike up. I don't clutch them yet when I'm standing, but I'll get there. I want to try some staggered, but I pull the bike to one side when I do them right now. We'll have another one soon, but we're just looking for your thoughts about everything.
Thanks for the replies though, we really do appreciate it.
-Jesse-
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RE: 2nd gear stand ups - 7/9/2006 5:12:26 PM
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stuntn_r6
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good video...you guys still got a ways to go when it comes to the balance point...not nearly far enough back but then again you did say this was about a week after learning so...
good clip though and be safe!!!
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