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600 vs liter bike - 6/18/2006 5:19:10 PM
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PolishHammer75
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Hey...
In Iraq I promised myself I would buy a rice rocket as soon as I got home. Listeing to other people who said I needed to start with a smaller bike, I bought a new 2004F4i. Since buying it, i put yoshi pipes on it and dropped a tooth off the front sprocket. Even with mods, I feel I have outgrown the bike and I am thinking of upgrading to a liter bike (CBR or R1) next summer. On the flip side I have heard that the CBR600 RR and R6 are faster off the line than liter liter bikes and better handling. Can I have some advice on what I should buy?
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/18/2006 7:12:31 PM
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christhek
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If you have outgrown an F4i already you must be one heck of a rider. I have had an F4i for more than 4 years and still can't outride it. Anything that can do 0-60 in less than 4 seconds and top out over 150 is fast enough for me. But it's all preference Dude. The 1000RR is one heck of a bike but not for long rides as it's more aggressive in stance. I'd stay with the F4i.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/18/2006 9:04:59 PM
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medyv
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Even with mods, I feel I have outgrown the bike
Somehow I doubt that... I think if you need to ask advice for buying a liter bike you prolly shouldn't be buying one. But it's your money, and you do only live once so hey, if you can afford it why not go for it. Just remember that a 1000 will be heavier and far less desirable for riding on the street than an F4i.
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On the flip side I have heard that the CBR600 RR and R6 are faster off the line than liter liter bikes
Whoever told you that was smoking something... a 1000 is much faster than a 600, period.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/18/2006 10:54:24 PM
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fishfryer527
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I ride my buddies 1000RR once in a while and it is considerably faster in every concievable straight line situation than my F4i and I would guess every other 600 out there. It doesn't really feel any heavier, maybe the weight is lower or centralized or something.
If you feel like you need more power then go for it, get the 1000. Aside from the uncomfortable riding position, the 1000RR is awesome.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/18/2006 10:57:31 PM
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gixxereater
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If you think you're bored with your 600, do a track day. I love it when people buy a new litre bike because they are too good for a 600. Dude, that is more ego than skill talking there. A 600 is FAR more agile than a 1000 could ever hope to be. Brute power, well, there's really no comparison. The new 600's dont make power below 10,000rpm. A new litre bike will smack you in the face with the tank at 6000. It is fun to kick the snot out of a 150hp bike at the track with an unskilled rider on it. Esp with my "old" "slow" 900. Makes me grin every time. Then some little snot nosed shit will pass you on an SV650. Sobering for sure. I would suggest getting to really know the bike you have. Too many people step up too fast because it's the "in" thing to have the baddest shit off the show room floor. But, as stated, it's your money. Good luck.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/18/2006 11:24:35 PM
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dwhite645
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The only real advantage of a liter bike is you don't have to tap dance on the shifter as much. The 600's don't come alive until about 7-8k rpm. For normal street riding, I'm always tapping down on the shift lever. If I were you, I'd stick with the F4i, or if you're looking for a change, look into the 600RR. A liter bike is WAY too much for anybody, period. But it is nice knowing we have the option to buy one if needed.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/19/2006 1:44:19 PM
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andersun16
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There's really no good rational reason to buy a 1000RR to replace your 600 - but then again, there's really no good rational reason to buy a motorcycle at all. If, at the end of the day you'll feel better having a 1000 in the garage, then buy it. Just ride smart.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/19/2006 1:54:47 PM
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just wanted to correct a statement before that the rest of the 600s are all pretty much the same...
that's a totally false statement...the new R6 is putting out 120 at the wheel...is there a 600 that currently does that other than the new R6?
as far as outgrowing the bike...yes, you may have, but in a totally going straight line sort of way. if that's the case...why did you even post about the difference in handling and what not? if you're only concerned with straight away speed, yes, step up to the liter bike...but if you're speaking as a sportbike rider for canyons, tracks, etc...then you definitely have not outgrown your F4i. it's a totally capable bike...yea maybe old skool but it is...
be careful...without a humble attitude, you're risk for being a statistic is very high...gear up.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/19/2006 10:35:45 PM
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Jaybird180
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just wanted to correct a statement before that the rest of the 600s are all pretty much the same...
that's a totally false statement...the new R6 is putting out 120 at the wheel...is there a 600 that currently does that other than the new R6?
Sure doesn't seem like that in the WSS races.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/19/2006 10:44:11 PM
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NINE2NINE
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just wanted to correct a statement before that the rest of the 600s are all pretty much the same...
that's a totally false statement...the new R6 is putting out 120 at the wheel...is there a 600 that currently does that other than the new R6?
Sure doesn't seem like that in the WSS races.
"You're good, real good...." "It's not the bike, it's not the engine, it's the rider." -Smoke,Biker Boyz movie
man, you can't throw WSS bikes in the mix. we're talking stock verses stock. the r6 is hands down the horsepower winner of the class. even with it's lying tach.
and don't go quoting biker boyz. that movie was a bitch slap to the riding community.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/20/2006 8:33:38 AM
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Jaybird180
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WSS stands for World Super STOCK.
I don't agree with your Biker Boyz statement. True, it was a bit unrealistic, but it was a MOVIE and was not about motorcycling, but there was actually a STORY underneath the motorcycling action. Watch the other stuff on the
DVD.
< Message edited by Jaybird180 -- 6/20/2006 8:34:32 AM >
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/20/2006 9:13:51 AM
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Jaybird180
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the new R6 is putting out 120 at the wheel...is there a 600 that currently does that other than the new R6?
http://www.biketestusa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=3301
This article disagrees with that statement.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/20/2006 11:18:13 AM
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woogie
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Ugh....2 measly extra HP....and a pathetic torque curve. I don't understand all of the buzz about the R6.
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RE: 600 vs liter bike - 6/20/2006 11:47:31 AM
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AZ1000rr
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Contrary to popular belief in this post, there are lots of good reasons to buy the 1krr....its very streetable, power at any rpm in any gear, it handles awesome, it doesn't feel heavy, because it isn't, at least not the 06. Riding position is not so agressive that it's uncomfortable. If I were buying a bike strictly for the track it would be the 600rr (since I don't do yamahahahas). The 1krr is almost too much bike for most riders at most tracks, the 600rr is a much more managable bike, and is easier to flick than the 1krr. But on the street, and even in the twisties, i can't, IMO, see a better bike than the 1krr, and that includes its competition. liter bikes are all very closely matched, and IMO its competition is simply butt ugly....the ZX10...the GSXR....and the R1. I will give the R1 its props, its a very comfortable bike, but its really not that great for the street, as due to its gearing, it requires high rpms to make power. That said, in reality, you should get what you want. It is hard to believe that anyone short of a pro really outgrows any of the sport bikes on the market, the bike almost always has more capability than we do ability, and even if you do have the ability, outside of track days, you are some what limited as to where you can actually ride any bike to its limits. I have never ridden the F4, but it is my understanding that its a bit milder than the 600RR....and I have ridden that bike, and it was a tough choice for me. I am a big guy, so I chose the higher hp/torque bike, and am 100% satisfied with my decision.
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