RE: I DID IT!!!
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/7/2006 11:20:36 PM
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Evan_CBR
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Hey zzz11,
Like I said, you came in here and gave a very harsh critique of my decision,...and that was cool becasue I understood that you were expressing your view based on your experience etc. But when someone comes in here to "bash" as opposed just giving their opinion, then that is a different matter. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me. But I'll just keep receiving feedback from folk who contribute and ignoring those who want to "bash." But, anyway,...I did listen to your advice and thanks for your input.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 1:07:43 AM
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mikem317
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I'm certainly not going to add any real additional value to this tread. Okay, here is my sorry attempt.
First off, I've come to the conclusion that the OP is not asking for any advise/comments/suggestions that doesn't bode well with his/her twisted, mangled thought process that logically concludes that a liter machine is an excellent first machine. Might as well be the last, right?
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Any advice, word of caution...definitely welcomed.
And then proceed to flame and offer rebuttal to every single poster on this thread.
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Instead of placing odds in Vegas, why not take your 2 cents and invest heavily in a mutual fund so that you can send your 6 year old to "manners" school to have more class than you. Orphan or no orhan, your "sense of sarcasm" as a role model is lame.
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At age 47, you have a lot of pinned up frustration...Mommy didn't hold you enough when you were younger?
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And now we have you, who came in here to defend someone and then did the very same thing that he did...tried to be sacrcastic without even an ounce of "constructive" criticism. I can only imagine that TexasArmadillo got his 6 year old (that be you) to come in here and take up for him. Nice try, Gahboo. Now GAH-BYE.
In a word, it's affirmation. That's what you’re seeking. You refuse to acknowledge that there are more seasoned riders on this forum that are offering some pearls of wisdom, that you so carelessly discard. Some of other readers are MSF RiderCoaches! You invite the possibility of receiving said feedback, but if it doesn’t fit the party-line, it’s out?
This topic conjures up a lot of emotion for several reasons. First, it contributes to higher insurance premiums for riders with policies; you’re likely to dump machine within the first few weeks of ownership. Secondly, I feel that many riders believe your “cheating” the system. Earn your stripes; you’re not entitled to them. What’s more, is that isn’t the first time we’ve read/seen this story. It’s old hat.
Trade the bike, get something smaller. Or park the bike. Get a smaller machine and learn the basics FIRST. You’re safety should be paramount, not your ego. However, vanity is a motivator, I suppose. That might’ve translated into another liter unit sold, right?
Rookies and liter machines just make great track bikes for experienced riders.
Get some saddle time in a machine that's more forgiving than a cutting-edge, uber-sensitive machine like a 1000RR. I have less than 20,000 miles of saddle time on machines that are 600cc and smaller and don't envision myself on a liter machine for a few years. What's the rush to get the toe-tag?
Do whatever you want. It’s your decision! Please respect others’ opinions, esp. considering that you invited other members of the forum to participate in the feedback process! Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up! Good luck.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 1:49:05 AM
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95camaro01f4i
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zzz11 i dont thing that has any thing to do with the size of the bike im still unsure of what happend in that situation but from my understanding he was in a turn and he shifted into first that acted as an engine break you should NOT BRAKE in turns that could have happend to a 250 nija and as a mater of fact i saw it happen to a 250 at my msf even. and i think people fail to see that even experince riders make mistakes i plan on making alot. but at the same time how could he be respecting the power of that bike at 11k i havent even hit 8 on mine. i belive u can get in just as much trouble with a 250 as a 600 i just belive u should use a little more cuation with the 600. i think people fail to relize that weather you die at 80 miles an hour or 110 your still dead . im not trying to start a fight just give my opion
huh????? did you read the post at all?? The content has all the details, but it's even titled "Just flipped the bike" for crying out loud.
really was he going in a strait away or in a turn? the rider him self says it was unclear to him what happend. the only info he gave was that he down shifted from 11 grand after missing 2nd gear. the only real detail in the thread is the parts he needs replaced at best. listen i down really want to argue about this
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 9:40:10 AM
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Evan_CBR
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mikem317
Your selection of quotes is as bad as someone with selected memory to justify their view. Nice Try. The bottom line is that I replied to only two people in that manner, the same two people who came in here and tried to "bash" or present sarcasm instead of give advice, opinion etc on the CBR1000. Why don't you "quote" the sarcasm that warranted the response and then you will have credible input in commenting on mine. ANYONE READING THE ENTIRE thread can see that I responded to these two "flamers" who don't even have a CBR1000 to give advice on how it handles, etc. There were others as well who disagreed like zzz11 and I appreciate his input. No arguement there.
Your advice is well taken, however, I will have to go with the bike I chose....if it is too much, I'll trade down. Do you own a CBR1000? Can you give any advice as to how the CBR1000 handles? That is what my ORIGINAL POST was about, advice from the CBR1000 community as to...the "CBR1000."
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 10:08:01 AM
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TexasArmadillo
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Hey OrganDonor,
Read his friggin post! He already told you he doesn't have a liter bike!
Talkin 'bout "selective memory" are we?
Not everyone on this forum is gonna blow sunshine up your ass to make that bad decision of yours feel better.
Be a man. Suck it up, swallow your pride, and trade that bike in for something more survivable.
(And I take it by your silence that you haven't even taken a test-ride of the bike before you bought it? What's the matter, couldn't find a dealer who would let you? Couldn't find a friend to lend you his? DO YOU THINK THERE MIGHT BE A RATIONAL REASON WHY THEY DIDN'T? HMMM?) Try flaming THEM, and see if that get's you a test-ride, fool!
< Message edited by TexasArmadillo -- 7/8/2006 10:12:07 AM >
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 10:45:03 AM
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mininsx
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I heard about 50 reasons why I should go with the CBR1000 and 50 reasons why I should with the CBR600. My main concern is how sensitive is the throttle? I plan to respect it but I don't know if the thing to jump at the slightest touch. I plan to casually ride on back roads, I mainly bought the CBR1000 because of its looks...don't plan to race etc. Anyway, not having had a bike before, I have nothing to base my judgement other than the 250cc I learned on. Any advice, word of caution...definitely welcomed.
Geez...guys, get your panties out of your crack and R-E-L-A-X!
Now, Evan, like I said before, you've got a handful of bike, but you can do this. The throttle on a liter bike IS a little sensitive, especially compared to a Nighthawk or Rebel 250. Not much happens when you twist the grip on a 250, or even a 600 cruiser, but stuff will happen real fast when you twist the throttle on the CBR. I learned throttle control on my RC51, 'cause it's more sensitive than my Repsol. The RC51 doesn't like to run below 3,000 rpm, so it was an education riding it. Just be as smooth as possible, small motions out of your wrist. Take the weight off of your hands by squeezing the tank with your thighs. And be careful and let us know how it goes.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 10:49:08 AM
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PusherF8
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I've owned many CBRs, a few 600s, a 900, a 929 and now a 1000. the 929 of course was the closest just because I had quite a few mods done to it. But by far the 1000 is not a forgiving machine. No relaxing riding what so ever. The throttle response is so touchy that its undescribeable. I wouldn't trade the 1000 for anything, but I'm very thankful for the bikes that I've had before it to aid in the learning process it takes to understand an amazing bike as the 1000. Never stop learning how to be a better rider and never stop respecting the two wheel beast between your legs. Once you think you've got it under control, once you think you know anything and everything that comes with riding, that's when the pavement comes up and slaps you back into reality or six feet under!!
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 12:56:29 PM
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roketfreek
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i agree, 1000rr not the best choice for a new rider. i had a r6 for a little over a year before getting the 1000. thought i was ready and have been lucky. that doesnt mean that the power and speed of this beast hasnt cought me off guard and scared the crap out of me on many occasions. RESPECT THE POWER OF THIS MACHINE
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 4:11:03 PM
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partisanranger
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I'll bet Texas Armadillo files an insurance claim for all of that pretty plastic before Evan does!
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 5:15:13 PM
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mikem317
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ORIGINAL: Evan_CBR
mikem317
Your selection of quotes is as bad as someone with selected memory to justify their view. Nice Try. The bottom line is that I replied to only two people in that manner, the same two people who came in here and tried to "bash" or present sarcasm instead of give advice, opinion etc on the CBR1000. Why don't you "quote" the sarcasm that warranted the response and then you will have credible input in commenting on mine. ANYONE READING THE ENTIRE thread can see that I responded to these two "flamers" who don't even have a CBR1000 to give advice on how it handles, etc. There were others as well who disagreed like zzz11 and I appreciate his input. No arguement there.
Your advice is well taken, however, I will have to go with the bike I chose....if it is too much, I'll trade down. Do you own a CBR1000? Can you give any advice as to how the CBR1000 handles? That is what my ORIGINAL POST was about, advice from the CBR1000 community as to...the "CBR1000."
I'm just trying to spell it out for you. I've come to the conclusion that you're just another, run-of-the-mill, first-bike-buyer, never-been-on-a-bike, need-a-liter-to-publically-display-my-manhood. Good for your ego, bad for your personal safety. I'm not sure what you mean by "nice try". Unless you want to comment further, I'm confused.
I'm really just commenting per the OP's original "intent". I guess that "intent" can be interpretted, eh? You're simply seeking affirmation. You might want to consider editing your first post so you don't confuse other members on the board that want to comment.
It's the internet. You're going to get raw, sometimes brutal feedback. At least from my 15 year "connected" life, that's just the way it is.
I do not own a 1000RR. I own an F4i. However, I have been on several liter machines, both old and new, carbed and those using FI. I don't believe that three seasons and less than 20,000 miles of saddle time would permit me to own such a powerful machine like a 1000RR. I WANT do to this safely; you should too, but again, it's your decision. There is a way! You have to undertand that there are many threats on public roads. You can try to mitigate one of those risks, you the rider, by using a smaller machine to learn on.
BTW, you are getting a lot of advise here. I would also suggest that other's post their riding history so you can weigh it against the respective feedback for your analysis.
< Message edited by mikem317 -- 7/8/2006 5:16:57 PM >
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 9:49:51 PM
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TexasArmadillo
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Well said MikeM,
I, for one, am more willing to listen to your advise than the DeadManWalkin' who started this thread. Your suggestions tell me that I should probably go with the CBR600RR instead of the 1000 because my current ride is only 50 BHP. I was thinking that my extra weight would calm down the jumpiness of the 1000, but your advise tempers that somewhat. I also had a racer friend recommend that I would learn faster and advance farther if I had a 600 on the racetrack than with a 1000. He actually backed off and put his Ducati 999R in storage to work his way through a "skill plateau" he had reached and couldn't break through with that hot mount. He switched to an SV650S and then his Ducati 751 before stepping back up. (He also got sick of 600's passing him on the inside of corners on the racetrack at track days.)
Evan's stammering fulminations are not the kind of dialog I am used to hearing from 33 year old males, more like highschoolers, - threatened, defensive, insulting, taking every comment that doesn't reward him as a personal insult and hurling invective at the source. In fact, I detect quite a bit of desperation here and I'm just gonna throw this one out and guess that Evan's just gotten divorced, yep, that's what I'm sensing, and she left him, otherwise he'd be spending all his time and money on his girlfriend instead of a bike. Yep, that seems right. She left him, and he thinks that a liter bike will grow his weener back.
I, frankly, have given up on him. There's no intelligent life to save there, and the spare parts his bike will supply when he dumps it will mitigate the insurance premiums that I have to pay to own a bike. If he fills out his organ donor card, his body parts will go to someone with a brain that's more deserving to reproduce on the planet. After all, DARWIN is the law of Nature!
I wish he'd post his name and address, though, so that I can buy an insurance policy on him, with me as the benefactor. After all, like Warren Bennett said "I don't invest in the market anymore unless I see someone about to do something silly." And I think I've spotted a sucker.
< Message edited by TexasArmadillo -- 7/8/2006 10:55:59 PM >
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 10:40:11 PM
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TexasArmadillo
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ORIGINAL: roketfreek
i agree, 1000rr not the best choice for a new rider. i had a r6 for a little over a year before getting the 1000. thought i was ready and have been lucky. that doesnt mean that the power and speed of this beast hasnt cought me off guard and scared the crap out of me on many occasions. RESPECT THE POWER OF THIS MACHINE
Come on folks, lets be more candid. Someone's life is at stake. "not the best choice for a new rider"? How about "possibly the worst choice for a new rider"!
Outside of the R1, ZX14, and the Hayabusa, we're talking about 400lbs of the most effective rookie-cheeze-grater you can buy!
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 10:42:28 PM
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TexasArmadillo
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Evan, do us a favor. Post us with what town you live in so we can check the obit... (scratch that) ...newspaper online to read your riding reports.
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