RE: I DID IT!!!
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/8/2006 11:48:29 PM
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mikem317
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It's possible. Maybe mommy forgot to hug son, Natural Selection at work, etc.
Whatever. At the end of the day, it’s their decision, IMHO.
It plays out with some alarming frequency. Even a 600cc SS is not really an excellent starter machine.
I think what's most troublesome, is that the OP is not looking for advise, as evidenced by the fact that every dissenting opinion is matched by some infantile remark. It's just another OP looking for affirmation to their less-than-ideal purchase. When more when experienced posters question or criticize the OP's decision making process, it's downplayed or otherwise discounted, for the simple reason that their opinion differs from their's. Which opinion carries more weight – the aspiring rider or the experienced canyon-carver?
The best strategy (and perhaps logically smart strategy) is to simply GET A MACHINE THAT MATCHES YOUR RIDER SKILL SET. There are even aspiring riders, purchasing brand-new, 600cc F4i machines. They are looping ‘em, crashing ‘em, laying ‘em down before their first oil change. Just check out the F4i sub-forum on this board (http://www.cbrforum.com/m_124205/tm.htm, http://www.cbrforum.com/m_124839/tm.htm, http://www.cbrforum.com/m_119759/tm.htm).
There are countless threads about new riders destroying these 600cc equipped-machines on a recurring basis. I don't see how that empowers others to even consider a more powerful machine like the 1000RR.
Sure, Mat Mladin or Valentino Rossi can power through the curves at Laguna Seca with such precision, it looks easy. I think that empowers a lot of people from purchasing these expensive machines. People do it for vanity. Maybe it’s due to a sudden increase in disposable income. Who knows? I guess we're enslaved in a culture that embraces this intoxicating concept of instant gratification - eyeglasses in one hour, drive through windows, "one-hour photo" labs, over-night expedited shipping. We don't want to learn correctly - IT WILL TAKE TOO LONG! Nobody wants to move through the process. They just want the end result of that process - and immediately! Unfortunately, motorcycles (and the learning process of riding a two-wheeled machine) don’t lend itself to these notions.
I might post up again, but the best thing for an aspiring rider to do is consider taking an MSF RiderCourse. www.msf-usa.org. There's also some great information for new riders here: http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6. There are several essays written by very experienced riders that share some opinion on choosing the right machine for a first machine.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/9/2006 11:19:32 AM
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Evan_CBR
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Hey mininsx
I just got it yesterday, rode for about 4 hours and yes, the bike it very sensitive; but it is very stable. I spent about 2 hours in a lot doing most of the Motorcycle Safety Class drills (swerving, emergency stopping, hitting speed bumps etc). Then I went on a some back roads. I really enjoy the ride and will be back out there soon...
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/9/2006 12:32:47 PM
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Congrats, Stay safe!!
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/9/2006 4:43:22 PM
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Demoman
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Congrats on the new bike.
I have sat here reading all your guys input, and everybody has some good points. When I started riding dirt bikes people had the same disputes with 125cc and 250cc. as a first bike.
I started on a 250 and loved it. Never broke a bone on it. I went from a EX 500 to a CBR 1000. Did a track day, and loved it. I pushed it hard and learned alot. What im triyng to say is that you should not ride over your head. Simple as that.
As far as ridding in traffic, I don't think people are aiming for the liter bikes. I don't know the stats but I dont think the liter bikes stand out as the highest casualty. I also beleave that each person has different abilities. I have a friend that has owend a CBR 1000 for only 3 months, and its his first street bike. He now has a local sponser and is racing AMA. He didn't start by riding a 250 or taking motorcyle safety classes. Im not saying that people shouldn't, just showing that each person is different. I don't think a liter bike is right for everyone. That's why each person should use some common sense and realize their
own ability. Alot of people crash on the streets from going to fast for the conditions. Keep the speed for the track.
Also remember you could have 100,000 miles under your belt riding and racing, and still make mistakes, and still get hit by a semi and become fertilizer, No matter what size bike your on
Watch Moto GP races. Even the best make mistakes, or even worse get taken out.
Everyone ride safe and enjoy riding.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/9/2006 11:05:13 PM
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Evan_CBR
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THX Demoman:
I became more excited about getting my bike every since I saw your pics on another thread. That Silver is nice. I'm getting more and more interested in doing a track, sounds like fun.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 12:52:48 AM
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Demoman
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Do a track day, do as many as you can. You will be able to learn throttle control,braking, and how to control your bike better in a controlled environment with instructors on hand to help you. I have heard instructors say that the expierience you get from 1 day at the track is like 1 year of street riding. I don't know if I would go that far, but it does help alot. It will cost you big coin for your first time due to needing leathers gloves entry fee and bike prep, but its worth every penny. Also there is usually a suspension guy at the track that will adjust your susupension for like 20 bucks. It is well worth it.
Enjoy your bike and dont let the little devil on your shoulder get you in trouble.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 11:00:54 AM
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SirJAG
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i dont know why everyone is being dicks about this (well not everyone). With a little damn self control and caution a 1000rr will be a fine first bike. i think the majority of dicks here are just being rude and know that they would not have been able to handle a 1000 as their first bike (myself included). Good luck and welcome to the club my friend.
james
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 12:09:35 PM
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Evan_CBR
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ORIGINAL: SirJAG
i dont know why everyone is being dicks about this (well not everyone). With a little damn self control and caution a 1000rr will be a fine first bike. i think the majority of dicks here are just being rude and know that they would not have been able to handle a 1000 as their first bike (myself included). Good luck and welcome to the club my friend.
james
THX SirJAG
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 12:16:28 PM
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AZ1000rr
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wow...haven't followed this thread much in the last week, look what I missed. I will say this too all, as it really applies. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and may post them freely, but this one has gotten way out of hand. For those of you who feel Evan made a mistake, I think he understands you, but nevertheless, he already has the bike, and he is an adult, so he is free to buy and ride whatever bike he wants. For those of you that think your insurance rates are directly related to Evan's purchase, give it a rest, Squids cause our rates to be higher and public opinion of sport bike riders to be lower. I'd be really interested to know how many of you nay sayers actually own a 1krr. If you own one, you know its a very easy bike to ride, again with that said, no real sport biker is a beginners bike, and all bikes are dangerous. Evan had a question, asked for opinions, and made his decision. I say welcome to the club, and congrats on your new scoot. Apparently some people feel the need to bash Evan for his decision, do us all a favor, find a new forum. You obviously are not interested in abiding by the rules of this one.
Evan ENJOY YOUR NEW BIKE!!! Texas, give it a rest.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 4:28:49 PM
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mininsx
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Hey mininsx
I just got it yesterday, rode for about 4 hours and yes, the bike it very sensitive; but it is very stable. I spent about 2 hours in a lot doing most of the Motorcycle Safety Class drills (swerving, emergency stopping, hitting speed bumps etc). Then I went on a some back roads. I really enjoy the ride and will be back out there soon...
Cool. You actually rode it for 4 hours and didn't crash!  How'd that happen?!
Seriously, you'll be fine as long as you respect the power that's available to you at a seconds notice, wear your gear and be careful. It's always a good idea to ride back roads that you're used to in your area so you can become acquainted with the handling, brakes, etc of your new "ride" before you tackle roads that you're NOT so familiar with. Better yet, buy this book,"Sport Riding Techniques" by Nick Ienatsch. It's about 17 bucks on Amazon and it's excellent-lots of good information. Good luck.
< Message edited by mininsx -- 7/10/2006 4:34:17 PM >
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 5:08:06 PM
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AZ1000rr
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Hey Evan, I notice you haven't posted any pics yet. Lets see the reason behind all of this conversation. The MSF Class is a great place to start for anyone who doesn't know how to ride or hasn't ridden in a very long time, but you might find the intermediate class better building your skills and confidence on your bike. I really think that doing the MSF class on 250's is a mistake unless the rider is going to ride a smaller displacement bike, but not that you have your license and your bike, you can take the intermediate class. Being able to do those drills on your bike will really help build your skill level. Don't take this the wrong way, but from the way I read your posts, you sound somewhat timid, maybe even a little scared of your bike. I hope this isn't the case, and that our friendly contributors haven't made you fear riding your bike. Like I said before, respect is one thing, but fear will most definitely get you hurt. In experienced riders, when in a panic, tend to look down and/or use way to much rear brake, and that's a recipe for disaster. You have to relax. By now you should be used to the controls. Just take it easy and enjoy yourself. I you are completely comfortable and confident, then take that class.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 6:49:35 PM
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Wow what an active posting! Break it down to simple terms a 125, 250, 600 and 1K are all capable of 120 Km/h at that speed all motorcycles provide the same result in terms of damage to the body, learn to ride properly.
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/10/2006 7:57:20 PM
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Well, this has been an interesting discussion...
To start, I'm 31, have about 100,000 miles riding experience including a handful of trackdays, and pretty much live sportbikes night and day. I started on a 1987 CBR600 Hurricane (man, I wish I never sold that bike!), and have since owned another CBR600, 2 R6s, a 929, a VFR750, and now a 2006 CBR100RR (which I absolutely love)...I only have 2 comments:
1. An idiot will kill himself on ANY motorcycle, and will usually do it quickly. A smart rider can ride any bike safely, even a very powerful bike as a first bike. Yes, idiots can live forever, and smart riders can die anytime - but which side has better odds? What is the difference, you ask, between an idiot and a smart rider? IMO, it's restraint, an honest desire to daily become a better rider, and the ability to stay calm in a panic situation.
2. Evan impressed me with one of his posts: he was practicing the MSF drills on his bike. Evan, don't ever stop practicing those - never think you are good enough to not need practice. You need to (slowly and patiently) work your way up to be able to swerve that bike hard and fast, and stop that bike safely on a dime. Every corner you take should be an exercise in perfecting your cornering skills and your ability to deal with the unexpected. That advice would be pertinent for you regardless of what you're riding...And that's what will keep you alive, regardless of your bike's engine displacement...
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RE: I DID IT!!! - 7/11/2006 11:02:45 AM
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Evan_CBR
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Hey AZ1000rr
I will post some pics (I got it in silver like yours) this weekend, maybe on a new thread. I have been excited about riding every since I saw the delivery tech roll it off the back of the trailer. All fear and anxiety left me at that moment. Am I cautious? you better believe it. But the ride is so solid, that I felt comfortable almost instantaneously.
I am just getting used to traffic and using my mirrors to be aware of my surroundings (much like anyone would do in a car) for defensive riding. I am also carefult to "eye" a car when pulling alongside to see if they will cut me off. I tend to stay behind someone in the next lane and not pass unless I have to. I have gotten it up to 65 mph and that is as fast as I want to go for now. I don't really want to hit high speeds or do a highway until I do a "track day" to really school myself on handling the bike at those speeds. Other than that, I am excited to get home every night to ride. Last night, I skipped the gym and didn't even eat dinner til almost 11:00 PM, I had to make myself bring that "beast" home!!!
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