Chain Oil HELP!
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 6/26/2006 4:04:43 PM
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ninetyfivehp
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clean yor chain with some kerosene, wipe off the excess, then lube the chain with maxima chain wax or something designed for o-ring chains.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 6/26/2006 4:10:11 PM
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Wilson1
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I wouldn't think the rain did a whole lot to the chain if it was already oiled beings it's not water soluble. Won't hurt it to re-oil it tho. Just go ride it for a few minutes to get it hot, and oil it. Scrub it first with a brush and WD40 if it's rusty or nasty looking. I have always used chain wax, and seems to stay cleaner longer.
Changing the oil is pretty simple. I put down some aluminum foil where some oil may fall on the plastics/header, and just leave all the plastics on the bike. I've never had a problem getting oil on stuff. Pull off the drain bolt on the bottom of the motor. Let the oil drain. Get you a 65-68 oil adapter for a wrench to unscrew the oil filter. Carefully remove so no oil goes anywhere. Put the bottom bolt on. Put filter on. Put 3.5 quarts of oil in. Start, Ride  15-20 minutes.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 6/28/2006 4:12:09 PM
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mikem317
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Relube it.
I use the Honda Pro version. Works great! Very little fling.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/1/2006 1:20:26 AM
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ejohn
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try some gunk cycle chain lube it's great and cheap too.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 3:26:36 PM
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snowboarding82
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At the place I bought my bike The guy suggested some Honda white graphite chain lube. It's like a can of WD40 with the little red tube and everything. It was the most expensive stuff (only like $10ish though I think at the most) so I'm hoping its good. When should you clean your chain? Something I definately recommend is a stand. I NEED one! lol I just spray the chain around the rear gear thingymababer (no I'm not very technical I'm a noob) and then roll the bike forward a little bit and spray again until I think that I've sprayed the whole chain. /shrug
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 4:47:28 PM
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Its a rear sproket.
And when you roll your bike during the lube process, make sure you don't roll your bike through the lube trail on the ground.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 4:59:01 PM
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alekinci
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Ok, I will be honest and say that Im clueless why the chain needs to be relubed. What is the purpose of that? Will the sproket wear out or something? I have high temp resistance bearing grease, can i use that? Any help is always appreciated!
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 5:22:14 PM
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knightslugger
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You will ruin your chain if you use WD-40 on it.
A motorcycle chain is an O-Ring Sealed Grease Lubericated Chain. Behind the O-ring seals is grease. WD-40 Penetrates this seal and solubalizes the grease rendering both components useless. The grease is essental to proper Chain flexability. If a chain cannot bend, it cannot go around sprockets. If it can't go around sprokets, your motorcycle doesn't move. The reason you clean a chain is to protect the O-rings from damage. Kerosene is recomended becasue it will not penetrate the Oring, and will not ruin the exposed rubber. Th reason you Lube a chain is to keep dirt away from the orings, and to keep the exposed portions of the oring protected. Using a Anti-Sling lubricant such as Maxima Chain Wax will accomplish three tasks:
Keep the Metal rust free
Protect the O-Ring from road grime
Keep the Exposed O-Ring lubricated to extend its life.
Avoid using lubrication agents that will sling such as cheap gear oil or bering grease because it'll end up on your tires, body work, helmet, girlfriend's boobies, EVERYWHERE. Remember that only a light coat of chain wax is nessessary. too much may collect in the front sprocket cover which can end up in the driveway, or on your bodywork.
TO EMPHASIZE THE POINT:
Never Never Never use WD40 on an O-ring chain. It's the fastest way to force you to replace it in a few thousand (or hundred) miles.
< Message edited by knightslugger -- 7/3/2006 5:30:15 PM >
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 5:35:11 PM
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alekinci
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Wow, pretty thorough. Thanks a bunch Knightslugger.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 6:07:57 PM
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mikem317
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You can use WD-40 to clean, not to lube.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 7:05:54 PM
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knightslugger
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you can
if you want to ruin your chain...
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 8:55:21 PM
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mikem317
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quote:
ORIGINAL: knightslugger
you can
if you want to ruin your chain...
You ain't going to ruin shit. It's just an old wives' tale that won't die.
For the record, I don't leave the WD-40 on the chain. It's washed off, so maybe I'm doing it differently.
When does your chain ruin?
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 9:12:48 PM
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knightslugger
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When it stretches out too much.
WD40 is a penetrating oil. It gets between rusted bolts with ease. What makes you think an oring can stop it? It doesn't take long for that to happen either. maybe 10 seconds, if that. WD40 resists water. that's what makes it such a great rust inhibiter. you can't just wash it off. if you are using soap and water to wash it off, then wtf was the point of the WD40?! you've just compromised the rubber of the o-ring by using wd40. should have just used soap and water...
There's an old farmers trick; When you have a leaky o-ring seal, they fire wd40 on it (or brake fluid, does the same thing) to make the rubber bulge and grow fat thus making it seal once again. the o-ring doesn't last very long and soon needs to be replaced because the expanding rubber has made the o-ring so weak and rotted that it can't do it's job and it tears.
you're doing the same thing to your chain. just don't do it. If you really MUST use a pressure solvent, use brake parts cleaner, but be damn sure you get that chain good and lubed or the rings will dry up and tear. i guarantee it.
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RE: Chain Oil HELP! - 7/3/2006 11:52:05 PM
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mikem317
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WD-40 is kerosene based. My manual recommends using a high flashpoint solvent like kerosene or something that's kerosene-based.
This topic is discussed ad infinitum. I've put over 10,000 miles on my chain, clean with WD-40 and lube using Honda Chain Lube on a regular basis.
I'm not an expert, just somebody with experience. It seemingly works without damaging my chains.
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