RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000?
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 3:17:44 PM
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Evan_CBR
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I'm done arguing with you. This is like having a chimp tell me how to walk properly.
Z.
And what are you arguing about and with whom? The fact that I got a CBR1000 as a first my bike or the fact that others (like myself and AZ1000rr) have a right to our own experience / opinion?
If you were truly done "trying to" argue about something that you cannot control, then you would not have responded in the first place. LOL!!! Your experience riddled immaturity is SOOOOO transparent.
I will give you a quick "chimp" lesson on how to "walk" the forum line..."you start by first taking the arrogant foot out of your mouth, putting it on the ground...and then, slowly...putting one foot in front of the other." Now try it, zzz11...its not that hard at all. AAAHEEERRR!!!
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 3:20:49 PM
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D2VW14_20
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This is unreal.
zzz11 - Your opinion is to start out ona smaller bike. Okay. Done. Just because you do not agree with Evan_CBR doesnt mean he is wrong. its an OPINION!!!!! Quit acting like your the only one right, and those with the same perspective. Just because "you dont want beginners starting on 1k" doesnt mean it isnt going to happen. Its your opinion. Let it go. You think your right, he thinks he's right.
Evan_CBR - Like stated, starting on a 1k is your opinion. I agree with you. I would rather go on personal basis, than what is written by a bunch of journalists in a mag. However, that doesnt mean your the only one right.
Both of your OPINIONS are right. It's personal preference. And once you give it, and if you dont agree with someone else, go ahead and say why to maybe help understand your point of view, but there is no reason to totally smash someone else.
So, heres my case. Short term, 600 is the way to go. However, if you are buying new, and this with be a "longer term" investment, go with a 1000. I bought a 600rr. Dont get me wrong, I LOVE the bike, but after riding for a while, you wishthere could be a little more there. But if you know you are just going to ride around, not try to screw with anyone, but still know you can get out of the way, 600 is the way to go. I mean, I have ridden both, my brother has a 1k. And some argue that if someone comes in your lane, you want to get out of the way, you want the power. Well, usually, atleast me, when I am just riding, I am in a higher gear just to keep my rpms down, so in the case, neither of them are going to rocket out as if you when in the band. But still. It comes down to what you want it for. Just because you get a 1000, doesnt mean you have to ride it "balls to the wall." You can still ride it as a 600. So, it all comes down to what you want it for. Thats my OPINION .
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 3:33:00 PM
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Evan_CBR
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Evan_CBR - Like stated, starting on a 1k is your opinion. I agree with you. I would rather go on personal basis, than what is written by a bunch of journalists in a mag. However, that doesnt mean your the only one right.
It is not about being right other than having the "right" to your own opinion / experience. Do not get the impression that I am trying to prove a point about which bike to get, becuase I am not...it is up to the person who will have to take on that responsibility. Read above, I have no opinion as to what the OP should or should not get. I can only share my experience to let someone know what I did to make my decision and that it is possible to start out on a CBR 1000ccc as a first bike.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 3:43:16 PM
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D2VW14_20
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And I agree with you. It is totally possible to start off on a 1k with no problem. Like i said, If someone gets a 1k, it doesnt have to be riden balls to the wall and full throttle. My brother started off on a 1k and now owns a 1k and a busa. Hes been riding for 4 years. It just depends on what the bike is going to be used for, i think, and whether or not you need the 1k.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 3:46:01 PM
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YellowJacket1000RR
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Oh, please, PLEASE! Let's NOT talk about "need"! If we have to have a "need" first, my wife will take away ALL of my bikes. Cuz she doesn't think I need ANY of them!
"From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs." - Karl Marx.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 3:47:05 PM
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Evan_CBR
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ORIGINAL: dizzie56
Not to be off the topic of bitchin people out but what did the guy end up gettin the 600 or the 1000. Ive seen these threads constantly and havent scene one where the person that started it has come back to say what they got. Its kinda like they start these things to view the drama that follows.
True, where is the OP?
Anyway, I started a similar thread about 6 weeks ago, but I had already bought my CBR1000 and wanted some advice while I was waiting for it to be delivered. What a firestorm...with some folk not knowing how to let go when soemeone chooses a different route than what they think it should be.
I like my CBR1000 and I do think it is easy to ride given what I do within my zone of comfort. But apparently with the "experienced" immature few here on the board;...owning a bike and riding a bike disqualifies you from sharing your experience because you haven't been doing it as long as they have.
Take care and I hope that the OP does make the best decision for himself and have a safe riding experience.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 3:47:09 PM
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It really never fails to amaze me how there is always a texas amardillo, or in this case a ZZZ1 who wants to be oppositional to all, just so they can listen to themselves talk; and they also want others to perceive them as having superior intelligence....guess its kind of like small man's syndrome. My whole point to ZZZ1 or any other nay sayers is simple, a novice can ride a liter bike, whether you like it or not, they can and they do. I would rather spend my time encouraging them to ride it safely than to blast them for their choice. Same goes for the 600rr. I am also baffled that more of the 600rr folks don't pipe up; I know they do when they talk about wanting to go up against the 1krr on the track. Now that I know what you ride, I can understand your perspective; and no, I'm not making light of your F4i; it too is a pretty powerful bike in comparison to the 250's that they use in the MSF classes, and in reality, it too isn't the best choice for a novice. But honestly owning an f4i and having ridden other superbikes, doesn't really make you the best source of knowledge for this discussion, since we are not talking about the f4. If I owned a 600rr, I would truly be insulted by your seemingly lack luster impression of its performance (keeping in mind that bike on bike, the 600rr will eat your f4i for lunch). To truly understand the 1krr, you really have to have owned one, and yes even those novice riders out there that only 1000 safe miles on their bikes know more about this subject than you do, hell they actually probably have a better perspective than me, as not only do they own the bike, but they also have their limited novice rider experience to draw from. I really get frustrated when members of this forum decide that they know better than all others. You don't. Its time for my favorite statement...SHUT UP AND RIDE!
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 4:06:54 PM
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Evan_CBR
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Advice can come from anyone and experience does matter. However, for those of us who actually own and ride a CBR1000, then we will have a better insight in speaking on its performace in comparision to a person who doesn't.
I, for one, think the CBR1000 is an easy bike to ride. Easy does not mean that it is not dangerous...but I don't think it is the "beast" that I hear from others when it comes to safety.
< Message edited by Evan_CBR -- 8/19/2006 12:51:15 PM >
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 4:09:41 PM
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YellowJacket1000RR
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ORIGINAL: Evan_CBR
Anyway, I started a similar thread about 6 weeks ago, but I had already bought my CBR1000 and wanted some advice while I was waiting for it to be delivered. What a firestorm...with some folk not knowing how to let go when soemeone chooses a different route than what they think it should be.
If you already bought your CBR1000RR, why were you interested in someone else's advice? If I walk into an icecream shop, buy a bowl of pistachio icecream, and turn around and ask everyone in the room what I "should have" gotten, I'd make a pretty good guess that almost none of them are going to agree with me. I'd have started an instant flamewar right there in the store!
Dude, unless you've got years of experience, when someone else asks for advice here, let the experienced people answer.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 4:18:39 PM
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Or you can let the people who started off on the bikes he is asking about talk also, considering that is the main OP!
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 4:21:37 PM
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both bike's will kill u if yr not carfull. Plenty of experiance riders hurt/kill themselve on 600's. If you move up 2 the 1k your loosing turnability and gaining HP. I started off with a brand new bike and I wish instead that I had gotten a somthing for like $3k... I had the new 1 4 3 weeks b4 i tipped it over in my driveway. I was left with shinny on 1 side and scratchy on the other.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 4:34:45 PM
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YellowJacket1000RR
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Or you can let the people who started off on the bikes he is asking about talk also, considering that is the main OP!
Yah, but IF I was the OP, I'd want to hear from someone who started off first on a superbike, say, 5 years and 25,000 miles ago, and hear from them if they regretted it or not.
But beggers can't be choosers, so, I change my mind. You're right.
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Yes, I said STOCK.
Let me know when I'm outperforming my bike and need to race tune it.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 4:37:05 PM
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Evan_CBR
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ORIGINAL: YellowJacket1000RR
If you already bought your CBR1000RR, why were you interested in someone else's advice? If I walk into an icecream shop, buy a bowl of pistachio icecream, and turn around and ask everyone in the room what I "should have" gotten, I'd make a pretty good guess that almost none of them are going to agree with me. I'd have started an instant flamewar right there in the store!
DO YOU READ? Because if you read my thread you will see that I asked for advice on HOW THE CBR1000 HANDLES. I never asked if it was the right choice etc. But the topic got diverted to if I shouldv'e gotten the CBR1000 as my first bike.
But again, you have commented on my post without FULLY reading the history etc. You are only left to assume, and well zzz11 can tell what he thinks of people who assume. So your whole ICE CREAM story makes no sense and neither will any of your posts to me as long as you refuse to read first and then ask questions later. TRY AGAIN.
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RE: ADVICE PLEASE: 600 or 1000? - 8/18/2006 4:41:06 PM
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YellowJacket1000RR
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Who put the burr up your saddle?
I've read enough of your posts to see that you have a chip on your shoulder, and that is all that I care to read of your posts, sir.
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