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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/25/2006 3:50:11 PM
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five0addict
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ORIGINAL: Blackdog F4i
What really damages oil in a Motorcycle engine is the transmission. It shears oil and breaks it down. Cars don't worry about this because they ususally keep the transmission separate from the engine. If you are reffering to the valves, then remember that there are less moving parts in a motorcycle valvetrain than there is in a car valvetrain.
exatly, moto oil has to lube the clutch, transmission, then lube the cylenders, cam, valve, too.
penny pinchers need to rethink there priorities whats an extra few bucks every couple months?
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/25/2006 9:49:26 PM
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Blackdog F4i
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ORIGINAL: Jon Boy
Now I have always been a firm believer in keeping a machine oiled with what it is used to, but what would you guys recommend.
Just use a full synthetic in whatever viscosity is required for your temp range. Make sure it is NOT "energy conserving" and dosent have added moly. If you really don't feel comfortable with picking something, then just get Honda HP4.
Yes it seems Mobile 1 Gold Cap (15w50) is getting hard to find.
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/25/2006 11:57:34 PM
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jorge13
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HI there Blackdog F4i !
I see you are using 15/50 instead of 10/40 that manual ´s, is better ? isn´t it a little thick ?
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/26/2006 8:29:16 AM
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bigschnauzer
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I run AMSOIL and filters they say you can go 8000 miles or one year on a oil change but I still stick to the recommended 4000 and do it every 3000 just because it makes me feel good. LOL
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/26/2006 4:18:49 PM
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Blackdog F4i
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ORIGINAL: jorge13
I see you are using 15/50 instead of 10/40 that manual ´s, is better ? isn´t it a little thick ?
15w50 is good for temp ranges from about 25*F up. The intention is that it will work better at High temps where it is really needed.
I don't ride much when it's below freezing, and I ALWAYS warm my bike up before I ride, so it works fine for me.
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/27/2006 10:28:22 PM
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ejohn
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the truth is you could probably get by with crisco if you change the it at 2000 miles.
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/27/2006 10:44:32 PM
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woogie
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A quick practical question for those of you that change your own oil..... What do you do with the old oil?
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/28/2006 12:22:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: woogie
A quick practical question for those of you that change your own oil..... What do you do with the old oil?
You take it out to the local autozone or kragen, or even firestone and have them recycle it.
Some MOTORCYCLE dealers like the one near my local area, will give a 5% discount on next purchase for bringing in a certain amount of used oil.
by the way i jst use whats recommended 10w40 honda pro GN4, with honda filter. Not a daily rider, but at least 50 miles a week.
also i believe the f4i uses 3.5 quarts of oil. so purchase 4 bottles = 1 quart per bottle.
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RE: Engine oil change... - 9/28/2006 12:52:53 PM
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Blackdog F4i
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Don't do like me and be lazy until you have 10 gallons of used oil.
Most of those places will only accept 5 gallons at a time. Although with the price of oil now they would probably take all you want to give them.
I usually just take mine to the local Co-Op. They will take all the oil you want to give them.
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RE: Engine oil change... - 4/24/2008 6:57:40 PM
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Goose Rider
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Ancient thread I am bringing back to life but....how do you guys change the filter without making a total mess? Do you reach right in and unscrew it or does everyone use a filter wrench?
I think I read on the forums here that a Purolater 14610 will work just fine as well...3.56 at Advance Auto...gonna change my own oil since the dealer wants almost 60 ballons!
So no fairing removal eh? Would love to see some pics of this being done with fairings still on
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RE: Engine oil change... - 4/24/2008 7:41:15 PM
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TBFGhost
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I do it with my fairings on no problem. I just let the oil from the filter drip on whatever and they use a little brake cleaner to spray it all off. Works great.
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RE: Engine oil change... - 4/24/2008 9:22:35 PM
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RojerLockless
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ORIGINAL: alekinci
Why not car oil.. I change two bike oils using car oil that stuff works just fine
WOW DONT USE CAR OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The difference between car oil and bike oil is BIKE OIL LUBES YOUR CLUTCH TOO!!! if you use car oil your clutch will SLIP DON"T DO THAT..
lol besides theres no difference in the price
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RE: Engine oil change... - 5/3/2008 9:03:49 PM
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Goose Rider
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Any other guys change their oil with the fairings on?
Goose
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RE: Engine oil change... - 5/4/2008 7:00:14 AM
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1- Glad someone mentioned that this is an old thread
2- What happened to Blackdog? I haven't seen him on the boards in awhile.
3- If anyone needs to know, read his posts....the total truth
4- Rojer gave you the consequences of using the wrong car oil
5- I can't believe this thread is 3 pages long
6- I'm outty
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RE: Engine oil change... - 5/5/2008 6:41:46 PM
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Goose Rider
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Looks like BD has not posted since late last year
Well I bit the bullet and went to my Honda dealer and got the stuff (err the dealer raped me that is)...31 dollars later....4.50 a quart of oil and 12 bucks for the filter?? Since this is the first time I changed the oil on my bike I figured I'd just get the OEM stuff this time around...will probably use a Purolater 14610 filter next time and Valvoline MC oil when it is on sale at Auto Zone (1.99 a qt)
In any event it is pretty simple to DIY without taking the fairings off...just use an extension and a filter cap wrench and bingo...no probs at all...just put some tinfoil on the headers under the filter to keep the majority of the dripping oil off of them. Still got a little bit on but it cooked off after a few miles..nothing major...found out that where the 2 front fairings meet, it is a great place for tons of little rocks and pebbles to gather. I didn't tourqe either the oil filter or the drain bolt as my wrench is set for 1/2 inch not 3/8. I just tightened them like I do on my car and took it for a nice spin. No leaks so good to go.
All in all pretty east to do..I put in 3.5 qts exactly...hard to tell what level the oil is at when doing it by yourself and no stand...gotta balance the bike and hope you don't drop it...I think I am right at the top line....last oil change was done a year ago April by previous owner....good thing I decide to change it...it looked like brown swill coming out! Not dark or dirty like a car oil but a scummy brown 
Ick...no wonder it was running sort of rough...
Goose
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