RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider?
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 1:42:18 PM
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Blackdog F4i
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Damn I love F4i's in race trim.
If I ever get another bike for 2-up I think I am goint to race prep the F4i. Would definitly make prep for trackdays easier.
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 2:09:37 PM
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wow- that's a clean looking bike... mine looks no where near as coordinated in it's track plastics. (Red tank, red tail, black lowers, black/white upper.
I'm going to practice painting my track plastics... can't get any less coordinated.
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 3:50:01 PM
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shane431
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I have 2 track days this weekend and the bike has some more decorations on it. I'll post them up when i get back next week!
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 5:31:41 PM
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CaliCbrF4i
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I started out with an F4I. You just need to take it easy and be smart. Just cause you can zoom through lights and spit lanes does not mean you have to. And take the freaking MSC class. Please! I know too many people who did not take it and ended up dropping their baby. As long as you are smart I do not think you will have a problem. Remember, you are always driving defensively when you ride a motorcycle. So, just be safe.
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 6:03:02 PM
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Blackdog F4i
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Since you pulled the trigger on it. The FIRST MOD should be frame sliders. You will cringe when you have to cut the fairings, but that will go away and WHEN (not IF) you drop your baby it will cost a lot less.
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 6:05:27 PM
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snowboarding82
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just don't zone out when you're riding and scan all areas of the road.
HAHA, alot of times when im riding on the highway, I do ZONE OUT. Kinda messed up cause I will ride like 30 miles of road and not rememer what I just rode by.
Dude I do that same thing a lot. I think I have ADD or something. hah Or maybe it's just because I'm drunk whenever I'm driving? hmmmmm hahahaha No but seriously, there's nothing wrong with getting a 600 or 1k for your first bike. Get whatever the heck you want. If you're not intelligent enough to know that if you're on a 1k and you give it gas the front end is just going to raise right up on you then you shouldn't be riding a bike. Get some common sense that's all it takes. I was considering buying an older used bike. I was looking at I believe a '99 F4 and the dealership my friend worked at wouldn't let him go below $5600. The bike was obviously dropped, it was all scratched up and had 19k miles on it. So do I go buy this used 7 year old bike for $5600 with no warranty or do I go buy a brand spankin new '06 mint condition 1 year warranty F4i (wishing I got the rr now) for $7700? Easy choice and if anyone says go with the used one I'm sorry but you're an idiot. It's extremely difficult to find a good used bike around here it's just a better choice to go with brand new.
Now on the subject of buying a 250 vs a 600. I say screw it start your butt on a 600!!! The first time I ever rode was some early 90's ninja zx6. Was my friends bike and they all made me ride it once around a parking lot before we took the boats out. I did ok. Since then I rode a pocket rocket drunk, seeing who could get the fastest time around a small subdivision until the cops came, and another friends old freakin early 80's 350 trail bike where we were doing motocross jumps! hahahahaha The last time I rode was back in highschool so before 2000. We always talked about getting bikes since junior year in highschool and were actually looking at the F4 or F4i's in 2000, that was a long time ago. I finally just decided one day this spring "I'm in the mood to buy a motorcycle." In the beginning of April I ended up with a blue/black '06 F4i. I love it. It's fast. It's scary. It's HOT. =) So I go to pick it up and I haven't ridden a bike in years and got it home fine. A little heavy and akward at first but I got used to it by the time I was out of the parking lot, I just took it nice and slow and easy.
I signed up for the MSF class right away and had to wait until just this month to actually be able to take it. They had 250cc nighthawks and on almost every exercise I was scraping the peg feelers. The only thing I had a problem with was the swerving. Those bikes didn't use countersteer. I tried and they kept telling us to "push push straight!" but no one could do it. Since I learned on a 600 I can ride a 250 so much better and a lot harder. Now if I would have learned on 250 and then moved up to a 600 it would be like relearning all over again I just know it. Heck I should have started on a 1000 and then moved down to a 600 so I can ride the 600 as hard as I was riding the 250's.
I don't think there is any problem with starting on a 600 at all. I think everyone should be encouraging people to start on one. As far as riding within your limits I think it's true to a degree. You have to go outside your limits to get better. You have to push the line a little further each time in order to become a better rider. If you always take the 30mph corners at 30mph you're not going to get any better.
My advice is start on a 600 and break your bike in slowly. By the time you have it broken in you'll be ready to hit 8k+ rpms and have a better feel for the bike. Take it easy for a while and if you're not comfortable and things don't flow smoothly for you while you ride after a while then perhaps reconsider if the sport is re
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 9:09:40 PM
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Blackdog F4i
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I started to type out this big long drawn out response...........
but then I realized 99% of the people buying the bling over the right choice are not going to listen anyway and they will probably never really use the bike they have.
So when those have "upgraded" to their liter bike, I will cruise by on my 600 OR the Aprilia 125 I would like to get.
**edit for pic**
Here is the "starter bike" I would like to get:
< Message edited by Blackdog F4i -- 8/31/2006 9:12:33 PM >
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 8/31/2006 9:27:50 PM
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2000cbrf4
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I would have to disagree with you blackdog, if you're a moron you can kill yourself just as easily on a 250cc bike as a 600cc bike. The '06 F4i is my first bike, and I already have 1700+ miles on it in a month. I think if you practice in a parking lot for a day or two, you should be fine, just don't zone out when you're riding and scan all areas of the road.
I have had mine for 6 weeks, clocked 6355 miles so far. No way would I have started on it. I started on a Katana 600. Yes, you can get killed on a moped, but let me say this. Much more temptation to exceed your limits on a F4i or similar compared to a Katana. Not arguing, just saying how I feel. I DID start on something other than a 125mph quarter mile ride. Great learning experience, cheaper insurance for a newb, and you 99% chance drop it. Whether it is pushing it outta the garage, lubing the chain, pulling into your gravel driveway or what. (Guess how I know?)" Get something to ride at least a season on. Something you can get a good deal on and re-sell for as close to what you paid for it. Do you mean target fixation?
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 9/1/2006 1:05:06 PM
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ninetyfivehp
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you won't be any quicker on the RR on the street. RR insurance is higher and it won't be as comfortable as the F4i imo
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 9/1/2006 2:37:24 PM
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discohouse
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at State Farm the isurance is the same for the 600RR and F41. I don't care what you get it's your money. Just be careful, know your limits, and remember that you can control your wrist! The f4i is more comfortable though.
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RE: compare RR and F4i for new rider? - 9/1/2006 3:11:24 PM
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Blackdog F4i
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Since the subject is speed, can a '02 F4i go just as fast as a blue/black '06 F4i?
Or are they the same?
I am not 100% certain but I think I read something about the '06 having a lower final drive (higher rear sprocket) that the 01-03. That MAY reduce the top speed, but since you run out of power (drag limit) before you run out of revs it may help top speed.
Stock rear on the 01-03 is 46 tooth.
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Mods: Scorpion Carbon High Mount, PCIII, Supersport Undertail, CA Integrated LED Taillight, Targa Cowl, LP Short Stalks, Pyramid Hugger, Shogun Frame and Bar sliders, Corbin Saddle.
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