Shifting without the clutch
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/4/2005 7:50:08 AM
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Anubis
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Can`t believe you`ve never heard this before now, you can change UP without the clutch on any bike because of there sequential gear boxs. If you do it right theres absoloutley no harm done either. I do it all the time its actually a smoother change than using the clutch when you get the technique perfected. But DO NOT try and change down without the clutch you need a lot more racing equipment and skill for that.
Alls you do is:
Ride as normal using the clutch to get you going in 1st gear then when you would normally change gear, back of the throttle and slip it up a gear, as soon as you`ve changed its back on the throttle again. (we are talking seconds) and roberts your fathers brother. All the way up the box to 6th and 180ish,  well on the thou.
If you`ve never tryed it before i recomend not doing it from 1st to 2nd until you get the hang of it, going threw neutral can catch you out on occasion. Practice at just past middle rev range until your confident to top the revs.
It works because as you back off the throttle theres some kind of enertia created which enabled you to easily slip it up a gear, I`ll let some other clever dude explain, i can`t find the words.
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/4/2005 8:22:49 AM
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TooL
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Sweet dude. Yeah I'm a noob and also the country i'm in i don't know a lot of bikers so there's no where for me to get this info. A friend of mine can do i on his dirt bike but i wasn't sure if it applies to sports bikes as well. I'm still getting into the game. Thanks for the info tho, much appreciated.
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/4/2005 8:26:39 AM
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chainstretcher
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Ya, upshifting is o.k. but NEVER downshift without the clutch. It's sometimes helpful to 'preload' the shifter slightly -- what I mean is just have a bit of pressure on the shifter so that when you drop the throttle it's a quick, positive shift.
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/4/2005 8:36:22 AM
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TooL
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gotcha!!!
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/5/2005 10:19:38 PM
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ooironheadoo
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I've heard not to down shift without the clutch, I've never seen any proof of why, I used to all time, especially at the track when your tired and trying to conserve energy, with no adverse affects.
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/6/2005 2:09:49 AM
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TooL
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For some reason, changing gears without the clutch doesn't seem to work all the time. Sometimes it just does but mostly it just holds. Any idea why?
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/6/2005 5:45:31 AM
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Anubis
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you need to be accelerating at a reasonable rate, so that when you back off the throttle theres enough inertia to encourage the change when you ask it to, try accelerating a little harder mate, see if you find that any easier. I normally only do it when i`m givin it some beans it won`t work if your pottering round or in traffic for example.
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/6/2005 6:26:33 AM
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TooL
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cool, i thought as much, will give it a go later. thanks
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RE: Shifting without the clutch - 7/6/2005 7:21:05 PM
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MapJr
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I'm going to try it tomorrow...thanks!
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Racers do it on track they don`t use the clutch ever on up shifts, i`ve done it on all 3 of my previous bikes all the time and never had any problems. 