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Chain oil - 8/10/2006 7:27:09 AM

gride99

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Kind of a nub question here.. but what type/kind of oil do I use for my chain. My bike has been siting out in the weather with no cover for the whole summer and we've had alot of rain. Also, do you think that the rain would effect my chains oil at all?

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 8:39:40 AM

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good old fashioned gear oil (EP90), the downside of it all is that it will fling off making a mess, so once you have lubed the chain wipe as much as you can off, and you'll hear & feel the difference staight away, it's tons better than all that spray stuff & cheaper too, its great for the climate here in the UK with all that rain, the other alternative is to go for 'WURTH Dry chain lube' its what the racing boys use here, but make sure your chain is cleaned properly before you put it on.

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 8:49:18 AM

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It would probably be a good idea to get a new chain (and might as well get new sprockets if they have some mileage on them). The chain probably has alot of rust on it and could be a hazzard. O rings could be weathered also.
The chain is very important and you should keep it in good shape, if it snaps your leg is gonna get tore up or like my friends did and bust up the engine case.

As far as the lube/oil goes, I am currently using PJ1 Blue Label, but have a can of Silkolene that I'm gonna try when this is gone. Some prefer the "chain wax", but I have always used the spray can and don't have any complaints.

I would recommend getting some that is "clear" and/or "no fling". I hate cleaning my chain and lubing it and seeing all the white residue from the lube, and you don't really want that crap getting all over you jacket and clothes.

If you have a Cycle Gear near by check them out, they are a great help to newbies, and help answer any questions you have. Atleast thats how they are here in Oklahoma.

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 12:31:49 PM

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Why dont you clean your chain??
even the pj1 holds road dirt & when you re lub your just forcing all the dust and road grit deeper into the roller bushes

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 2:40:10 PM

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I use wd-40 (you can buy in a can that poors). I put it on after about 200ish miles or every ride.

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 4:00:41 PM

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Don't use WD40 on 'O' ring chains, it drys the rubber ring out and causes it to crack,

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 6:10:33 PM

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See I have heard that before, but I have been putten it on dirtbikes forever (with out o rings granted) and then again, if I lube all the time with wd even if it does dry out o rings I still lube it every 200ish miles. So I see your point but I have to disagree, also I don't believe there is any scientifice proof. I will take an extra o ring from a chain and submerge it in wd-40 for a couple of days and then pull it out and let it sit in the sun.

Once I get the results I will tell yea bout em.

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 6:16:05 PM

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I use kerosene and a "grunge brush" to clean mine. You can get the brush at the bike shop.

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 7:42:20 PM

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WD 40 isnt a lube so there's your scientific proof already, It's a water dispersant. it only lubes for a short term
it dries and forms a protective film.
anyway I'm not going to get into a heated debate what you use, it's your preference .
how many times do you change your chains??
long term on a bike chain can be 3 months leave to 'o' ring in the sun for that long, listen to someone who knows about these things, but dosent know everything

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RE: Chain oil - 8/10/2006 8:31:50 PM

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Mike, you nailed it. WD40, has absolutly no cushioning effect eather. I used to use it... it's amazing, how much better the bike feels, w/ real chain lube. It seems to feel smoother, shifting also. Sorry guys, that chainwax isn't known for it's cushioning ability, eather. I like maxxim. Clean and free, Ripp'n

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RE: Chain oil - 8/11/2006 11:30:30 AM

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a friend of has the cleanest chain in the world...cleans with WD40, the lets it dry and then sprays chain lube over it...

yea it doesn't lube for very long...

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RE: Chain oil - 8/11/2006 2:15:05 PM

02_GSXR_HYBRID

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ORIGINAL: mikequinn

Don't use WD40 on 'O' ring chains, it drys the rubber ring out and causes it to crack,

bullshit, it will NOT damage your o-rings at all. the only diffrence between WD-40 and a chain lube is the chain specific lube has a compound added to thicken it up so it will stick to the chain better. if you use only WD-40 it will all fling off with in 50 miles because it is so thin and will leave your chain unprotected.

WD-40 or PBBlaster are the best things you can spray on your chain to clean it. once its cleaned off use a good chain wax to seal it in and let it dry till it gets sticky, so that it doesnt all fling off. (give the bike a 5 minute ride before applying the chain wax so the chain is hot)

the best chain way out there is the Maxima brand wax. it sells for about $10 a can at your local motorcycle dealership. once the chain wax is sprayed on take a rag and wipe off the excess. let the bike sit for about 15 minutes so the chain and wax cools off and get sticky. youre ready to ride and you wont have any fling at all.

if you REALLY want to get that ghain squeaky clean take it off and let it soak in a small bucket of kerosene. once its clean, put it back on and give it a coat of chain wax.

and yes i usually average about 24,000 miles form a 525 o-ring chain on my 1000 cc bike.

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RE: Chain oil - 8/11/2006 8:53:50 PM

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Don't talk like you look WD40 f**ks up o ring Fact
the only thing WD40 IS good for is cleaning it . IT IS NOT A LUBE

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RE: Chain oil - 8/11/2006 10:33:14 PM

02_GSXR_HYBRID

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ORIGINAL: mikequinn

Don't talk like you look WD40 f**ks up o ring Fact
the only thing WD40 IS good for is cleaning it . IT IS NOT A LUBE

prove it. many chains and MANY miles of use from me and my wife on both our bikes have to say otherwise. not to mention the hundreds of customers that get their chains cleaned daily at dealerships across the country.

show me a chain/o-rings that were damaged by wd-40 and ill send you $20 for proving me wrong.

http://www.wd40.com/Brands/wd40_product_info.html
oh lookie here... its a lubricant and a cleaner and a rust preventative. everything a bike chain needs all in one.

http://www.wd40.com/Brands/wd40_faqs.html
and heres the FAQ about it and what its designed to do.

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RE: Chain oil - 8/12/2006 2:05:21 AM

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So... If wd40 didn't fling off, in 50 miles... it would be good chain lube, 'cause it's the same as chainlube, just not sticky??????? MikeQ, not much reason to argue w/ him... Time better spent, fighting that insidious scam... CHAIN LUBE !!!!!!!!!!!!! How short sighted of the wd people, to not just make thicker wd40!!!!!! It's two, two, two products, in one !!!!!!! Clean and free, Ripp'n

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