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brianm767 -> RE: Which bike to buy Blackbird,Busa, or ZZR1200 (6/12/2007 6:19:35 PM)
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You say the Busa is too sport for you? why?
I owned a Hayabusa for five years and put 24,000 miles on it, I also owned a XX in 01 till I crashed it, I actually replaced the XX with my busa, well then I bought another XX a couple of years ago since I missed it so much, I probably have about 20,000 miles on XX's and my son also bought a beautiful Canadian XX, bottom line is to me , now of course this is in my opinion, and my son also agrees, the Hayabusa is more comfortable than the XX, and as far as sporty, the XX is every bit as sporty as a Hayabusa, maybe not in top speed, but it's still wicked fast, some observations for you
Busa seat is great, XX seat sucks!
More leg room on the XX, probably 1.5" or so.
Busa is more compact, about a three inch less reach to the bars, but the bars are lower, seat is also about 1/2"lower on the Busa.
Busa is absolutly cool to ride, puts off almost no heat to your legs or crotch, the XX is like riding a Habachi in the summer in traffic, the gas tank and frame rails get almost to hot to touch. typical Honda, our F4I and ST1300 do the same thing.
Power, well I dont even have to say it, I love the TQ of the Busa.
XX is butter smooth, all Busa's vibrate some above 4700RPM
My Hayabusa could get up to 50MPG, out of our three XX's the best we can do is about 38-40MPG on a good day.
Fuel injection on the XX is flawless, the Hayabusa needs a TRE to smooth it out around town, throttle is off and on, cost me $20 to fix it.
Busa's are pretty much bullet proof,except for a few 2002 models that grenaded starter clutches and eng cases, some XX's suffer from cam chain problems. both can get real expensive if it breaks. but the Busa problem has been fixed.
The bottom line is they are both great bikes, dont be scared off by the too sporty thing, my Hayabusa made a great sport tourer , to me and my son it was just more comfortable than the XX since the reach to the bars is shorter, I'm 6' and my son is 6'3" and even he found the Busa to be more comfy on long rides , but I do hear allot of taller riders prefer the XX since it is a more stretched out bike.
on our Busa we put Heli bars, Buell foot pegs, it will give you about another 1.5" of leg room for under $40 and a set of soft luggage, a ZG sport touring shield in the winter and a Puig DB shield the rest of the year and you have a fantastic sport tourer, on our XX we also put the Buell pegs, Puig DB shields and VFR bars, wich give about a 2" rise and the same soft luggage and off ya go.
It's all about ones own opinion and wich bike they are most comfortable on, all three bikes are great bikes, but I would never buy another Carbed bike if I have a choice so I would not buy the Kawi, but I know several guys who have sold their Busa's and bought the new ZX14R and they love it, it has better brakes, is smoother , faster,( but who needs that) than the Busa, dont let the top end power fool you, the Busa and ZX14 are both very nice bikes to ride, their only as fast as you twist that throttle any ways.
I did sale my Hayabusa to buy our new ST1300 and I miss it teribly, the reason I sold it instead of the XX? simply because XX's are hard to find, busa's are a dime a dozen, or as my friend put it, you cant swing a dead cat without hitting a Hayabusa . when he said that, I made my mind up to sale the Busa and keep the XX, so you can find some great deals on low mileage Hayabusa's
Oh and as far as "rippin" say's Busa frag starters and engine cases? this was only a problem on 2002 Busa's with a very few others, maybe 01's but almost all were 2002's I know because I owned a 2002, and I was worried about this on mine, the problem was the starter clutch would grenade and since there was not enough room in the housing for the now grenaded gears, on some bikes the eng case would crack,
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