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Need help with a sleepy tach. - 7/25/2005 9:33:28 AM   
unsquare


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So, I put a deposit on a 1997 1100XX yesterday...
Apparently the tach on it broke last year. My question is... is the tach on that bike mechanical or electronic. It seems that when it broke, the needle began to behave erractically, then spun around behind the needle. When I rode it yesterday, when the revs got up a bit, the needle would come back to life a bit.

Any ideas on what is going on here?
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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 7/30/2005 10:48:09 PM   
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Picked up the bike today. What a great bike.
Any ideas on the tach?

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 7/30/2005 11:08:05 PM   
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The TACH is electronic, so it sounds as if you have a loose connection or a low battery??? But I would say it is a loose wire

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 7/31/2005 12:34:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sirlimpzalot

The TACH is electronic, so it sounds as if you have a loose connection or a low battery??? But I would say it is a loose wire


Thanks!
Any suggestion on where to find details on getting into the dash? I haven't looked...perhaps an easy thing to figure out.

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 9/17/2005 9:20:21 AM   
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I can get a new tach on ebay pretty cheap...
Any one have an idea if this is likely to fix the problem?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CBR1100XX-BLACKBIRD-CBR-SPEEDO-TACH_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35594QQitemZ4575989430QQrdZ1

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 9/17/2005 12:28:55 PM   
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If your tach is like the older 1000's, it is electronically driven off the spark unit. The first thing I would do is find the connection(s) from the tach down to the spark unit. I would take each connection apart and spray contact cleaner in the connection and put it back together. Then I would check the ground. But if that is the only electric thing that is malfunctioning, it is probably not a ground since usually several things are ground together. A wiring diagram would probably help. Of course, it could be the tach, but usually it's a wire that has a bad connection or is grounding on the frame somewhere.

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 9/17/2005 12:34:33 PM   
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A wiring diagram would be a great help...anyone have one?

This is my first sport bike...never had to fool with much bodywork to get to stuff. Where can I get directions on getting to the wiring?

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 9/17/2005 1:26:15 PM   
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I like the Haynes manual. See if they make one for the XX.

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 12/29/2005 1:34:26 AM   
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I did end up getting a Haynes manual. It was a great help. From the diagnosis in the book, it looks like the problem is in fact the tach...but I am not confident in my multimeter skills to say for sure. Any suggestions as to where to buy a used tach...or a new one for cheap? That one on ebay went for $26! Now all I find is a parts store online for $286. Ouch.

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 12/29/2005 2:25:37 AM   
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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 12/29/2005 11:13:07 PM   
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I looked on craigslist, didn't find one ther either. Is there any way to search all locations at once on that site?

Is there a way to find out which if any other bikes share the same tachometer part as the 1100XX?

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 12/30/2005 12:31:20 AM   
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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 12/30/2005 12:57:24 AM   
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Thanks. They didn't have a part listed, but I put in a request.

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 1/13/2006 1:27:00 PM   
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ok, so I had my father help me run the tests again and we determined that it was in fact the brain box or ECU or whatever it is called...under the seat right in front of the tail light. I got one on ebay for $20 and installed it. No love. Problem persists.

So I am bowing out and taking it to a local service shop...the horror.

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RE: Need help with a sleepy tach. - 1/16/2006 9:54:16 AM   
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Wired to the brain box is the Throttle Position Sensor, Fast Idle Relay, Pulse Generator Coil, Tachometer, Ignition Coils and Spark Plugs.

It seems that if for many of these, a faulty connection would cause the bike to run poorly (which it isn't). Which of these can I rule out if just the tach isn't working?

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