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1st Wheelie attempt - 9/30/2006 2:46:19 PM
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Crotchmyrocket
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well, i've brought up lil' throttle wheelies before, but always had trouble with my clutch ones, could never get it up, well i watched a how to: that somebody posted here, from superbike mag or something and it actually showed me what i was doing wrong, kind of stupid really, i wasn't even hittin the throttle when i let out the clutch before, i just revved it up while slipping and then dumped the clutch but left the throttle in one position. but anyways, went out today and i was going to really get on it while letting the clutch back out, so i was going about 25-mph, slipped,revved,let the clutch out..........oh SHIT! i was almost going completely sideways! all i did was light up the back tire and went sideways, well after a few weebly wobbles i straightened it out, don't know how but thank god. i know my tire is junk but i didn't know it was that bad. when i had bought my bike it had tires on it that somebody bought from track day, so the outsides of the tires are non-existent. and the middle isn't too much to brag about either. so to you proffesionals out there how important really are good tires for stuntin'?
< Message edited by Crotchmyrocket -- 9/30/2006 2:50:42 PM >
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/1/2006 7:37:26 AM
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twistatech
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3/4 of stunters put on used junk tires and use them up all day long. i have never had a problem with my tires when they were bald. let out some pressure, i am right around 28-30psi. warm them up good and then you will be good to go. then when you get some money go buy some pilot powers, so you can wheelie in the rain!!! :-) ...make sure your weight is to the back of your seat, drop the psi, warm up the tires. and give her the beans, but not to many beans unless you want to wreck...
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/1/2006 9:37:55 PM
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Crotchmyrocket
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Thanks 4 the info. but ever since then, first gear is scaring me. if i get on it hard it just peels out, and i'm used 2 punching it around corners, like leaving stop signs & stuff, and i forget that i shouldn't...until i start sliding sideways again. but i'm going to try that later. thanks bro
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/10/2006 8:43:12 AM
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Jon Boy
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I tried my first wheelie the other day. Finally got the nads to try it! I was skeptical of the first gear cause I know it will come up violently quick, so I twisted first out and then dumped the clutch into second. It nearly peeled me off! It did come up though. I let off the gas and stopped, gathered myself up and tried it one more time. Got it to come up a few inches. What a rush! I have ridden them on dirt bikes before but man this is alot more machine between your legs. Taking the baby steps and hopefully will be able to ride one out soon!
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/10/2006 2:33:53 PM
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HighRevver
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Same here i am very slowly gettting into it and more comfortable, Although i am looking into finding a F4i or something that has been wrecked with basically cosmetic damages so i can buy it slap a cage and bar on it and learn/play so i don't have to **** up my nice RR.
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/11/2006 7:36:52 AM
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seldon929rr
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scoot back on the seat. on a 600 it's about control not just laying into it. give it throttle, chop the throttle, and GET ON the throttle. it'll come up. but it comes up fast. if you want to clutch it, get the rpms up and EASE out somewhat quickly. It's really smooth.
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/13/2006 8:34:09 AM
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Jon Boy
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I have gotten a couple of them up but they have been a couple of inches. The other day I tried one and it jumped up quick! Maybe a foot or more and it scared me. LOL. Later I thought I would try one in first, just barely rolling, revved her up and dumped the clutch. That baby jumped sideways and was spinning like a mad man! Talk about drawing up!! Oh well! ractice, Practice!
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/13/2006 9:50:15 AM
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try standing. i think its easier than sitting.
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/15/2006 8:13:27 PM
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Riding Red
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I have an 06 600rr and I can do wheelies in first no problem. I am learning to balance them but right now I just ride them to about 60 and then set them down. My problem is 2nd gear wheelies. I cannot get it up more than a few inches. I have tried at 40 and at about 60. I rev it all the way up to about 13k and dump the clutch and nothing. Should I keep rolling the throttle back even when I let the clutch out? Anyway, I bought a -1 sprocket that I am going to install as soon as I get it. Hopefully that will let me do 2nd gear wheelies. Does anyone have any experience with this. Oh, I weigh about 205. Does that make a difference?
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/15/2006 11:11:17 PM
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you'll need more gas in second. a good bit more...
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/19/2006 7:58:56 PM
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twistatech
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i am trying to teach a buddy how to do wheelies in 2nd. he has been trying like a sob but just cant do it. i can tell you this, he always braces his self for acceleration and he doesnt pull back . alot of people say " dont pull back , because you will turn your bars" you do not need to really pull back. the best way i can explain it is, how people do back flips on dirt bikes. arms straight and pull your head back. this will prevent you from pushing down on the bike. i personally pull back because it gets you to bp faster. i can get them up in 3rd by pullin up. and the other thing he doesnt keep in the gas when he clutches it. the bike will rev really high but that doesnt mean you are giving it enough gas, you can hit the rev limiter at 1/4 throttle, but that aint enough to clutch it in 2nd. hope this helps you guys .
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/20/2006 2:06:46 PM
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derek072887
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I am actully doing wheelies in second gear with out clutching it up i do have gearing -1 +2 but i can't just crack the throttle and pull it up if u have the gearing i do and u don't know how to clutch it then all i u have to do is get into second gear between 5 and 6 thousand rpm quickly let off the throttle jump down on the front end and crack the throttle back open to about half throttle or a little more let the front end come up and when u are comfortable with the height or u get to bp just let off the throttle a little to stay at bp i havn't found bp yet but when u can pull a wheelie up at 5000 rpm u have from 5000-13000 rpm to keep it up i can go about a 1/4 mile with mine. I hope this helps out alot of u new guys on here. And from experience i will tell u that u need to have alot experience on 2 wheels b4 trying to wheelie. Oh and also i do all my wheelies standing up keep your legs and arms straight after u bounce on the front end and lean back a little bit it will come up everytime!! Have fun and be safe!!!!!!!
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt - 10/20/2006 5:01:57 PM
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isolated1523
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Hey Jon Boy (and all, for that matter), avoid dumping the clutch when going from one gear to another. This greatly increases the chance of a bent shift rod, because you have not yet engaged the gear--if you accidentally do not fully shift, (which happens more often than you think) you could seriously bend a shift rod when you "dump" the clutch.
To anyone who is trying to ride wheelies: Practice is the only thing that will make you better. Trust me, a 600RR will wheelie in 1st, second, and third with stock gearing. Almost any motorcycle will wheelie, with the right rider. Lower gearing WILL help you bring it up, but it will not make you a better stunter---only practice will. Lower gearing will only help you bring it at a lower speed. (more torque)
Don't give up or resort to trying to add more power or lower gears. Just practice!!!!
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt, power On tips - 10/22/2006 2:02:45 AM
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cbr9rr98
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The Safe and controllable way is to ride it out to 4000 in 1st (20-25mph), shift your butt back , pinch in your knees to the tank, balls of your feet on the pegs (cover the rear brake, if you have to bail out). dip the power to 3800 , and snap the power as the front fork rebounds (grap some extra throttle as you dip the power), keep your weight back and ride it out with more power as needed . Keep the rev up until you hit the ballance point then slight (no chop) less power to keep it ballanced. Take you time. Make sure you have room to stop. I have busted so many parts trying to do them slow. Popping the clutch is hard to control, rebounding is much more predictable and controlable. And fun vs scary .
Use the rear brake with power when you get around 11 oclock to help find the ballance point then just slight power . Hold on tight with knees if it comes down hard, you don't want to come off the bike (sticky stuff on the tank helps. leather pants are good slippery pants are not as good) . I stunt in full leathers , gloves and back armor. and boots over the ancles. And helmet
Hints , relax your arms. Throttle control is what you are learing. You can't be stiff.
Never pull on the handle bars, your a fool if you think you are going to lift a 400+lb cycle with your noodle arms. What acctually happens is that you pull your own weight forward over the tank causing your wheelie to be very low if it gets off the ground at all.
Weight back arms long and relaxed.
Last tip don't look at the tach, listen for it werrrrrrrrr is about 4000, dip then snap Zrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Am I funny yet :)
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RE: 1st Wheelie attempt, power On tips - 10/23/2006 11:50:52 AM
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ORIGINAL: cbr9rr98
The Safe and controllable way is to ride it out to 4000 in 1st (20-25mph), shift your butt back , pinch in your knees to the tank, balls of your feet on the pegs (cover the rear brake, if you have to bail out). dip the power to 3800 , and snap the power as the front fork rebounds (grap some extra throttle as you dip the power), keep your weight back and ride it out with more power as needed . Keep the rev up until you hit the ballance point then slight (no chop) less power to keep it ballanced. Take you time. Make sure you have room to stop. I have busted so many parts trying to do them slow. Popping the clutch is hard to control, rebounding is much more predictable and controlable. And fun vs scary .
Use the rear brake with power when you get around 11 oclock to help find the ballance point then just slight power . Hold on tight with knees if it comes down hard, you don't want to come off the bike (sticky stuff on the tank helps. leather pants are good slippery pants are not as good) . I stunt in full leathers , gloves and back armor. and boots over the ancles. And helmet
Hints , relax your arms. Throttle control is what you are learing. You can't be stiff.
Never pull on the handle bars, your a fool if you think you are going to lift a 400+lb cycle with your noodle arms. What acctually happens is that you pull your own weight forward over the tank causing your wheelie to be very low if it gets off the ground at all.
Weight back arms long and relaxed.
Last tip don't look at the tach, listen for it werrrrrrrrr is about 4000, dip then snap Zrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Am I funny yet :)
i disagree. use the clutch and just practice.
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