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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 1:33:48 PM   
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Triax,

The question asked was not necessarily about handling, and you mentioned magnesium wheels was like "doing a 520 conversion on steroids" because you lose rotating mass which will give some boost in speed performance. My point is our 929s are worth between 5,000 and 6,000, and magnesium wheels range from 2,000 to beyond 4,000. Thats borderline crazy. You mention magnesium wheels, PC, rotors, ohlins, and brake lines. All that has a potential price tag of 3,500 minimum, to well over 5,000. Sorry, opinion or not, spending the entire value of the bike itself on handling upgrades equates to a negative gain. That money could be much better spent in other areas and result in truly noticable performance gains.

Tell us exactly what are the gains to be had from magnesium wheels that warrant that kind of expense? You mention handling upgrades, but never mentioned tires, which is the most important item for handling. You can spend an infinite amount of money on suspension and whatnot, but without the right tires the improvements mean nothing. And the gains to be had from magnesium wheels in terms of handling are negligable in street use. A professional on a track may have enough benefeit to justify it, but a street rider?

Heres a better option, if you want to spend the money. Sell your 929 (lets say 5,000 on the low end) and put the money you would spend on magnesium wheels, damper, rotors, PC, brake lines, etc. (another 3,500 to 5,000) with it and buy a newer, better handling bike like a 1000RR (which handles alot better than a 929 with upgrades, not to mention a hell of alot faster out of the box). Then you have a better handling AND faster bike, thats at least worth close to what you have in it, rather than having a bike thats worth 5,000 with 5,000 worth of upgrades that you can never get the money back for. And in Birde's thread Value of my bike, you made it VERY clear that YOU feel a bike with a bunch of upgrades is worth LESS because it means it was beat. You said you would rather buy a bone stock bike. By your own theory, you would spend thousands to upgrade your 929 and in effect make it worth less to a buyer like yourself? Why?

Its simple math. Spend 5K on a bike thats worth 5k, and will still only be worth 5k when you are done, or spend the 10k on a 1000RR or R1 and have a better all around bike thats still worth 10k?




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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 2:30:56 PM   
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Your exactly right so why tell him to spend $3000 on engine mods if the bike isn't worth that much. If I put all i said i would put on my bike and keep the stock pieces i could remove all my aftermarket parts and sell them seperately on ebay or other such items. Sometimes buying a newer bike doesn't mean your getting all the much more. Granted some more power and little better suspension, but everyone talks about all these horsepower mods like they are going to make a huge difference in their bike but no one touchs what the power needs to go through to get to the ground, the suspension and brakes. Why do people think they need so much more power? most people can't handle what the bike has as it is even though they think they can. Hell I think the 929 has more power than i'll ever need so why add more. Doing and exhaust I can understand the stock looks horrible and mapping to adjust for that. I'm all for pimping your bike out but i'm not about who has the fastest bike or whos looks the coolest. You can have the fastest and coolest bike out there but if you can't ride it do its limits then who cares. All you have now is a potentially fast bike getting smoked by real riders that know what they are doing. Do all the mods you want by all means but if your the everyday rider you don't need to do alot or anything at that. Sure track rider or drag, mod the **** out of the bike because you are going to need it to be competitive.

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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 2:37:17 PM   
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Very true.

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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 2:55:43 PM   
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The thread was started by someone asking about what mods are best. No one asked if you think a 929 is fast enough. I didn't tell anyone to spend $3000 on mods, I simply said what would be the best spending or "bang for the buck".

You contradict yourself too much in your posts, Birde's thread is one example. This is another. Now you agree with what I said and question my advice in horsepower mods, but you in your infinite wisdom talk about spending more than the bike is worth for handling alone, and you talk about being competitive. Where? Do you track race? Tell us all about your competition and your wonderful skill why dont you. Tell us how magnesium wheels will make you a better competitor.

You never offered anything in the spirit of the original question that started this thread, you talk like everyone is just an average rider and how we all talk about horsepower mods we dont need. Well, that is your opinion. But if you dont think 929s need mods, and have nothing to contribute, get the **** out of this thread.

Again, just like in Birde's thread, you go in there and tell him he would be lucky to get 6K for his bike, but in another you tell someone else that you see 929s with higher miles going for 6k. You just like to **** with people, but never actually contribute anything to the discussion at hand. Here you say you are all for pimping your ride and doing mods, in Birde's thread you told him that mods make his bike worth less. You can't say the same thing twice. You talk like you ride, by the seat of your pants.


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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 3:09:12 PM   
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C'mon dude, do you really have to be so critical about things? He was just tryin to be agreeable and you keep arguin. Lets keep the peace and focus on what we are here for, to help eachother out, not tear eachother down.

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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 3:32:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thesaint

C'mon dude, do you really have to be so critical about things? He was just tryin to be agreeable and you keep arguin. Lets keep the peace and focus on what we are here for, to help eachother out, not tear eachother down.


He goes back and forth, like he wants to jerk my chain. Then to go on about how he hears about everyone talking about HP mods, we dont need them, etc. If he feels that way, why post in a thread that is discussing the very things he is tired of hearing?

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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 4:00:24 PM   
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Everyone's entitled to speak their mind, and I do understand that it is a bit annoying and a bit confusing when someone post things that contradict eachother, but I entered this community trying to learn about this bike, and the back and forth arguing doesnt help, and no point is really proved. You seem like a knowlegable person, and I hope to learn alot from you and the rest of this community, and for the sake of me and every other person seeking help or guidance here, let's keep it productive.

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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 4:46:06 PM   
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you are right

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RE: what mods work best - 10/27/2006 6:29:22 PM   
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I have said it before and I will say it again... My experiences show me that holding hands and singing love songs always helps in these kinds of situations

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RE: what mods work best - 10/30/2006 10:51:28 AM   
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I don't care to judge anyone's riding ability. And If you want to dump 5 g's into a 929 I'm all for it. I'll check it out. However, the 929 is an extremely potent bike as is. Anything beyond bolt on mods and all of that money would probably be better spent on Cornerspeed classes and track days. I doubt even a well above average rider is going to be able to 'out ride' the stock 929 wheels on the street.

that being said mag wheels and ohlins suspension do give me a stiffy. You always want what you can't have.

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