RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 4:23:23 PM
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FATHEADS1KRR
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Like the story about the girl who low-sided "because her bike was lowered". Guess its not possible that she was over riding the bike for the conditions, or that even a stock height bike may have had a similar problem, or maybe even that she was just a poor rider !!?? NOOOOOO.... it was caused by lowering a bike that she probable wouldn't even have ridden at stock height. If they had a clue, they would say "Its not the best idea, but can be done" Not all this the sky is gonna fall on you bs.
I can see you were sleeping in class too aye? LOL
It was a direct result of her bike being lowered! Here...let me describe what happened again (in a nut shell). Her bike was lowered three inches, she was on a leisurely (slow) ride with her boyfriend, she went over a very large bump in the road (these are common in Michigan), the bump hit the bottom of the bike, cracking the oil pan, oil spilled on her rear tire, she lost traction, went down hard and that's when I got the pleasure of meeting her in my emergency room!
Get it now...any questions?
No, I "got it" Oil on rear tire, lose rear tire. lowside..... it was pretty clear what you said, but there are some things about the story that don't make sense. Like a slow ride over a bump cracking her oil pan ! I'm 225lbs (which I'm sure she isn't) my bike is lowered 3" and have gone over MANY speed bumps, and bumps in general w/no cracked or even scraped oil pans. The link I posted was put there by the mods of this forum to help educate all of us about what is/isn't safe when lowering, but this info is of no use to you !? You heard a story ( which sounds like half bs) and now the debate is over and you know better that the writers at Sport Rider ? Dude, we all get that you think its a bad idea. I'm a pilot, and i get asked all the time why I would want to do s/thing so dangerous, despite the FACT that it the safest way by far to travel. Why do people think its so dangerous ? Because the majority of people don't really understand how it works, and that causes fear. Just like you, and your opinion of lowering. Do us all a favor and re-read your "girl who proved lowering is bad" story over and tell me you don't see the holes in it !!!??? Would be my guess that she either hit a curb, or was riding too fast for the conditions ie; bumps (which you said yourself were common) You get on here and rant like you know what your talking about and its pretty clear that you don't, and that what you do know has been determined w/the use of some very shaky info. So no, I don't have any questions of you....... Thanks tho !
Oh, TheX...... If your not interested in the thread DON'T READ IT !!! Your blah blah is of no use to anyone.
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 4:29:11 PM
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NotSoMellowYellow
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That absolutely made my head spin and I’m sure a lot was lost in translation…but it revealed you should not be messing with your suspension!
This was a result of fast typing and lack of technical terms, I am fully aware that the height of the forks, in the tree effects the turn, front too high slow turning, front too low steep turning, I am also aware that the preload effects the hight of the bike as well thus causing essentioaly the same effect. My problem was I did not know if the tail was sinking and causing the bike to set higher in the front (Choper syndrome) that is what I cose to call it,or if my weight was forcing the rear to sag more, because the sag has been set and it seems to be level at a stop. So I was looking for other items that could cause this issue. After setting the sag where do you go next, and even thoght the sag is correct how do you know for sure if your bike is level ( where can you measure this from) these types of things.
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Don’t forget your “I’m going to get the cheap gear for the track first” idea…WTF!
When I say cheap I mean price not quality wanting to save a buck or two dosn't mean I want to kill myself and I am quite sure there is a safe riding suit that is not outragiously priced, if they are not safe I would assume that the racing administration would not alow them. Again I have never been on the track so I am unaware of the regulations, however I am not going to wear jeans and a Tshirt to a track day, in retrospect I am not going to purchase a suit for 3000.00 jst because somone that races wears it and it has their name on it.
When these questions are asked, instead of getting on the saop box and preaching about being a nurse ( I do appreciate your knowledge and input in this area) or saying that opinions are stupid ask somone to refraise a question or give examples back, or restate the question instead of placing judgment on the persons ability and expertise. This kind of judgment is irrational for example I can balance my bike on the fulcrum of the front wheel and maintain a pause for 30 seconds by this description I sound stupid or inexperienced however what I am trying to say is I can do a stopy or endo, just because I didn't know the name dosn't mean I cant do it and do it well.
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 4:46:50 PM
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Oh, TheX...... If your not interested in the thread DON'T READ IT !!! Your blah blah is of no use to anyone.
I'm on your side of this discussion BTW. That was pointed at all the people that think they know it all and there are no other answers.
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 4:54:12 PM
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is there any chance that the 2004, cbr 600rr can be lowered ? im tippy toeing.
also recently i dropped my bike on a turn, and i seem to have broken the right handle bar END.
and the brake leveler seems to have shifted down. (i have to reach over a little more to reach the brake leveler)
any info would be great. thanks again.
Who knew that this would cause a ripple in the 600 rr pool. Did you learn anything, take away at least this, know one realy knows which is better, try it be carful and put it back if it dosn't work. I wouldn't spend the money I would try a little thicker soles on my shoes first. I used to where soldier boots before I got my riding boots they gave me a little more hight, I had to adjust the shift lever but it was no big deal, however the rate this thread is going next we will here, changing the shifter could cause you to lowside and kill you.
GOOD NEWS IS THAT EVERYONE HERE IS WORRIED ABOUT YOUR SAFTY DON'T YOU FEEL LOVED.
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 5:06:54 PM
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I'm a pilot, and i get asked all the time why I would want to do s/thing so dangerous, despite the FACT that it the safest way by far to travel. Why do people think its so dangerous ? Because the majority of people don't really understand how it works, and that causes fear. Just like you, and your opinion of lowering.
I know all about being a pilot pull up go up push down go down! can I fly your plane Please...LOL.. dam wish I could aford that license. That will come next...If I get a cheap plane will it fall out of the sky..LOL
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 5:17:16 PM
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Oh, TheX...... If your not interested in the thread DON'T READ IT !!! Your blah blah is of no use to anyone.
I'm on your side of this discussion BTW. That was pointed at all the people that think they know it all and there are no other answers.
Sorry X, I didn't mean to be snippy !! The know it all peeps get me worked up.
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 5:20:58 PM
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I'm a pilot, and i get asked all the time why I would want to do s/thing so dangerous, despite the FACT that it the safest way by far to travel. Why do people think its so dangerous ? Because the majority of people don't really understand how it works, and that causes fear. Just like you, and your opinion of lowering.
I know all about being a pilot pull up go up push down go down! can I fly your plane Please...LOL.. dam wish I could aford that license. That will come next...If I get a cheap plane will it fall out of the sky..LOL
No, but if you lower it, it will rip a hole in the fabric of time and space.
I've lets lots o peeps fly my plane,(w/me in it) but I just sold it.... sorry !! 
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 5:21:23 PM
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FRETLESS33,
Although we argue and fight I still like the color of your bike I am painting the whole damed thing yellow in Jan, wheels lower fairing all of it. Which leads me to the next question for you. The tape on your lights is it like perforated so that it stays on always or is that tape that you remove, I cant tell from your picture.
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 7:10:43 PM
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FRETLESS33,
The tape on your lights is it like perforated so that it stays on always or is that tape that you remove, I cant tell from your picture.
The lights are unplugged and it's yellow duct tape from Home Depot...
I've never written any one is stupid for lowering their bike and the oil on the tire story is not BS, but if it makes you feel better...ok...it is and for the record FATHEAD 1" is a bad idea...3" is dangerous...
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 7:14:31 PM
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Awwwwwww. You guys are friends again. 
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 8:42:29 PM
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My bike sets a good 1 1/2 to 2 inches lower than my friends
Point proven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forget bent forks and new suspension. Now you know why your bike handles the way it does.
folks!!!
now you know why you shouldn't lower your bike...
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RE: new 04 cbr 600rr height is too high.... help - 12/22/2006 9:32:43 PM
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Sorry to rain on your paraid but I have a friend with a lowerd ( 3") susuki black and orange forget what size it was. Kyle a guy I know works at the jail house I'll give you his number if ya want so you can get a second opinion, anyway his bike corners like it's on rails also he is my weight and he can drag a knee at any time. Other things have been done on the bike it even had a larger engine in it at one time the guy that owned it ran it on the track, LOWERED, so it was not the fact of it setting lower that causes my problem. Besids it's 90% mental so what does it matter what height the bike is...LOL, also I have been told that the forks could have been bent by being tied to tightly in the truck and that can even bend the frame. I'm not sure about that havn't looked into it yet but thats what I've been told. I highly doubt that the 150 man that test drove my bike had a problem with it setting too low, yet he had a problem turning the bike as well. These are two different situatins but I apreciate the attempt to connect the two problems I wish it was just a hight problem but I fear it is somthing much more difficult to fix. or I could just lower the forks in the tree, incraese the pre-load and what not to get it back up in the air and all would be well. Round and round we go. I wonder if there are any suspension technitions on this site I would love to get some info from them. I don't think that there is a problem lowering the bike and there is no real proof that itcauses problems. I am however glad that I am 6'1" so I don't have to worry.
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