RE: 954 Wheelie
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/12/2006 9:57:53 AM
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GEARHEAD69
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I'm a squid too I like the power wheelies !! My thing with the clutch is that when I clutch it I feel like the bike is going to jerk me off the back due to the fact that after I pop the clutch and the G's kick in I feel like my left hand is barley hangin on and bad visions of bikes tumbling down the road go through my mind!! lol !!! Power wheelies make me feel like I'm taking off an air craft carrier !!!!! SWEET !!!
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/12/2006 10:07:18 AM
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TongWoo
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Well, I see it this way. I can carry a wheelie until I dont feel like carrying it anymore. So because I bring it up in a different fashion, I shouldnt advise someone who cant what technique I use? I dont see any reason to use all the rev range to bring the front tire up. The front tire is leaving the ground by 4k on my bike and by the time it's up it's mabey 7k. Then I shift to 2nd and then to 3rd and Im good. It'll sit at 7k in 3rd all day long. But what do I know? Like I said, Im no pro. A squid even. LOL Nice. I've always found it interesting the "stunters" only use one way to do shit and if you deviate from that then you arent doing it right. Wierd. Which stunter decided the clutch was the only way you could do a wheelie? Who set the standard? Im curious. Kane? Britton? Probably even before their time.
Well before their time... It was probably the original way to really do a wheelie, especially since the bikes were older and had less power... Wherien I see your point... BUT... I'm not trying to say that it's the only way...but it is THE proper way. I do this for a living. If you don't believe me, go buy Drew Stone's new DVD, Passion and Brotherhood. I have the first part in it and am in the last part too...and make apperance in 2 other parts in the middle... I did not call you a squid... I gave you respect... I just said that the power technique was "squidly." I guess the "racers" prolly have certain techniques for what they do... Well us stunters do too. I honestly was only trying to give my very best advice with only the best intentions of truly trying to help somebody. I am sorry that I offended you.
And yes for the record, power wheelies are a total sqid manuever. I'm sorry. The sky is blue, 1 + 1 = 2, Elton John is gay, and so are power wheelies. It gets down to this: If you don't master the clutch, you ARE in FACT kidding yourself if you think you have complete control. It is a tool used not only just for getting the wheelie up, but for many other situations. Wax on, Wax off. This statement is NOT pointed at any specific individual. I seriously only am trying to answer a question. What happens when someone has learned a basic wheelie....? The want to learn something else... maybe a more technical wheelie... What happens when that person has been only practicing with power wheelies and they go on to learn something that requires the clutch? They have to learn all over again. Fundamentals and building blocks. If they already have the clutch (which is ridiculously more consistent than powering it up) Then they can go on to learn other techniques and tricks.
If you want to argue the point, then... let's say you and I get together and each pop up say 100 wheelies (to balance point) side by side at whatever speed... The first one that messes up has to sign their title over to the other guy. If you don't wanna do that, I'll do distance, combo, technical, horse, stoppie, acro, burnout, whatever. I'll have it filmed and post it up. -Justin Woo
CLUTCH IS IMPORTANT. It can save your LIFE.
< Message edited by TongWoo -- 12/12/2006 10:21:19 AM >
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/12/2006 9:19:28 PM
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outsider8
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ORIGINAL: gixxereater
LOL, I see you edited your post Woo. Thought about it and got a little more fired up eh? LOL. Not trying to raz ya man. I have no doubt you could hand me my ass on one wheel, and with the explanation you gave about re learning when you want to do more complicated stunts, it makes sense. Listen to the man, I have starred in no DVD except for my own for fun. And it wasnt very good. After you win my bike from me, lets go to the track so I can win it back. Sound fair? 
i have been watching this thread-i expected smoke!!!
first gix- i have to repair something on your reply-"After you win my bike from me, lets go to the track so I can win it back "
i think both of you guys are awesome!!double thumbs up
power wheelies are not squid!! (well it depends!!not all cases!!),but when trying to wheelie inside of a very limited space(like 3-4 parking spaces) then-yes a clutching style works very well!!
it all depends on what you are trying to do and why!!
imo,control of throttle is everything,use of clutch defines it!!!!!
o8
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/12/2006 10:01:52 PM
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TongWoo
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ORIGINAL: gixxereater
LOL, I see you edited your post Woo. Thought about it and got a little more fired up eh? LOL. Not trying to raz ya man. I have no doubt you could hand me my ass on one wheel, and with the explanation you gave about re learning when you want to do more complicated stunts, it makes sense. Listen to the man, I have starred in no DVD except for my own for fun. And it wasnt very good. After you win my bike from me, lets go to the track so I can win it back. Sound fair?
Hahaha, sounds good man! You culd def prolly hand me my ass at the track! And I had to edit, because I type like a retard, but I can't stand spelling errors, lol!!! This is the internet...so remember that I am never too serious... This is why I love the internet, though! Here we can all combine forces and resources so we can all get an idea of what we're doing, whether it be on the track, or on one wheel!
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/12/2006 11:32:46 PM
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TK954RR
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Since im just along for the ride in this post hehe, i would like to add tho since i asked earlier.
[/quote] What happens when someone has learned a basic wheelie....? The want to learn something else... maybe a more technical wheelie... What happens when that person has been only practicing with power wheelies and they go on to learn something that requires the clutch? They have to learn all over again. Fundamentals and building blocks. If they already have the clutch (which is ridiculously more consistent than powering it up) Then they can go on to learn other techniques and tricks. [/quote]
That just happened to be a very good explanation to my earlier question, or at least something i had not considered. Thanks Tong!!
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/13/2006 8:57:17 PM
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Camman
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I think the best way to learn a wheelie is on a dirt bike as I did. You can get the feel of the bp point. I just wanted to add that when I started to learn wheelies it was on a 03 zx6r but now I have a 954. I found that a stand up wheelie is easier. I say that cause you have more feel for the wheelie also if your setting down and if your at the bp you cant see as good only if you look to the side. I found that when I do a 2nd gear stand up at my bp my speed is around 70-80 mph and I can hold it there all day baby.
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/13/2006 9:01:40 PM
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Camman
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Also I would just like to add that you shouldnt be doing wheelies without a steering damper. I mean you can do it but come down wrong and thats your ass.
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RE: 954 Wheelie - 12/13/2006 9:39:24 PM
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StuntinThe954
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[/quote]And yes for the record, power wheelies are a total sqid manuever. I'm sorry. The sky is blue, 1 + 1 = 2, Elton John is gay, and so are power wheelies. It gets down to this: If you don't master the clutch, you ARE in FACT kidding yourself if you think you have complete control. It is a tool used not only just for getting the wheelie up, but for many other situations. Wax on, Wax off. This statement is NOT pointed at any specific individual. I seriously only am trying to answer a question. What happens when someone has learned a basic wheelie....? The want to learn something else... maybe a more technical wheelie... What happens when that person has been only practicing with power wheelies and they go on to learn something that requires the clutch? They have to learn all over again. Fundamentals and building blocks. If they already have the clutch (which is ridiculously more consistent than powering it up) Then they can go on to learn other techniques and tricks.
If you want to argue the point, then... let's say you and I get together and each pop up say 100 wheelies (to balance point) side by side at whatever speed... The first one that messes up has to sign their title over to the other guy. If you don't wanna do that, I'll do distance, combo, technical, horse, stoppie, acro, burnout, whatever. I'll have it filmed and post it up. -Justin Woo
CLUTCH IS IMPORTANT. It can save your LIFE.
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+1 on everything said
woo where can i get that dvd u was talkin about?i havent heard much about it
thanks man
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Ah what to choose? I remember seeing people doing wheelies in their garage so it surely is necessary to have a pretty damn deft touch with the clutch, and you're right, why not start out right to begin with. Alright FINE.........clutch it up. 
