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How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/16/2006 12:08:12 AM   
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When I bought my bike I had very little knowledge of sportbikes and had no idea that 600lbs was HEAVY! I still like to ride like it's a sportbike vs. a sport-tourer! People that I ride with are usually pretty impressed with how well the 1000F handles for it's size. I want to see some pics of you guys carving some corners on your hurricanes!

I've got several of me posted in my gallery(camera that's under avatar ;) ).

The biggest problem I have with the bike is the limited available lean angle. When trying to keep up with smaller bikes on more technical turns, my bike is dragging the pegs and centerstand while the guys I ride with have plenty of lean left and are moving at a faster pace! Oh well, I LOVE the high speed/power sweepers.

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/16/2006 9:46:21 AM   
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Good pictures and riding style ! I try to avoid maximum pace llike that on public roads, but sure it happens when everything is clear. Have you ever visited a racetrack? If not, you should.

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/16/2006 11:03:36 AM   
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When finances permit I'd like to get a smaller bike, perhaps an SV650 like my buddy, and go hit the track with him. Racing is an expensive hobby though! I may go do a trackday with my 1kF in the meantime but I'm not sure it'll be too fun since the bike is hard to flip from side to side.

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/18/2006 8:48:37 AM   
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So no one has pics of them riding? How about wheelie pics?  Anybody?

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/18/2006 9:30:34 PM   
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I wouldn't recommend trying wheelies on your 1000F.  Besides the fact that you would have to rev the snot out of it and dump the clutch to get the front up, you will wreak havoc on your fork seals when it comes back down.  Not a good idea on such a heavy bike.

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/18/2006 10:21:54 PM   
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Here are a few of the CBR at the track, running with the race bikes. In these pics it had 90,000 miles on the clock.

It is my preferred street bike as it's rideable all day long yet is pretty capable when it's time to get busy. I've ridden this bike 122,000 miles so far including cross-country, rocky mountain twisties, California canyons, NE Adirondacks, Appalacian Mountains including Deal's Gap..... until I crashed it. It's mechanically repaired and been test ridden but not finished cosmetically. The track coaching has been consuming massive amounts of riding time. Maybe next winter.


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While I'm at it, this is my 636 track bike that I use for coaching and teaching. Yeah, I know it's not a Honda but I got it right and it IS a hot rod. I use an EX-500 sometimes too, but have no pics of that in my 'puter.


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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/19/2006 1:29:21 AM   
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Very nice dad! Looks like a lot of fun to be out on the track! Maybe I'll give it a go one of these days.
I feel you're pain on the cosmetics!  I crashed the bike Oct 1st and it's now rideable again but not pretty at all! LOL.

Girvin02,
I already know this bike is not a wheelie monster.....however, if you go about 15-20mph slip the clutch to about 7k and let it go, the front end will come up pretty well. Since the bike is so long/heavy you really can't get it up going any faster.....oh, and I've already had to do the seals, time consuming but pretty easy. I don't try that crap any more, even though I never grew the balls to hit the BP!

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/19/2006 1:51:47 PM   
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Very nice dad! Looks like a lot of fun to be out on the track! Maybe I'll give it a go one of these days.


You'd love it!

In your pics, body position looks good. That's an item we work with newer riders on a LOT.

In those track pics you'll notice the pipe covers removed and centerstand removed. I leave the centerstand off at all times due to the left side arm but the pipe covers will flex and aren't as likely to upset you. The problem is more cosmetic, you'll grind right through them.

I raised the front with spacers to get the sag up to about 1 3/8" from the stock position of 2 1/8". I raised the fork oil level from factory recommended 6 7/8" to 4 3/4" to make the front springing more progressive and less prone to bottoming on hard braking.

I also take a bag of peg bolts to the track with me and grind them off every session. I use standard bolts, slightly shorter than stock, and put them in with a jam nut. I keep them in because they are a real good indicator that you're really close to the pipes which are rigid enough to pitch you. I've been up to the brake pedal nub which is now ground at an angle and also kissed the fairing at the bulge over the clutch cover.

I also put several layers of duct tape on the lower corners of the fairing where they normally attach to the pipe covers. That's sufficient to keep them from showing the marks where they can kiss the track. These DO have corner clearance issues when running extreme but you can get a TON out of them, more than most think. It routinely surprised a LOT of riders at the track.

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/19/2006 4:23:44 PM   
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Very nice dad! Looks like a lot of fun to be out on the track! Maybe I'll give it a go one of these days.


You'd love it!

In your pics, body position looks good. That's an item we work with newer riders on a LOT.

In those track pics you'll notice the pipe covers removed and centerstand removed. I leave the centerstand off at all times due to the left side arm but the pipe covers will flex and aren't as likely to upset you. The problem is more cosmetic, you'll grind right through them.

I raised the front with spacers to get the sag up to about 1 3/8" from the stock position of 2 1/8". I raised the fork oil level from factory recommended 6 7/8" to 4 3/4" to make the front springing more progressive and less prone to bottoming on hard braking.

I also take a bag of peg bolts to the track with me and grind them off every session. I use standard bolts, slightly shorter than stock, and put them in with a jam nut. I keep them in because they are a real good indicator that you're really close to the pipes which are rigid enough to pitch you. I've been up to the brake pedal nub which is now ground at an angle and also kissed the fairing at the bulge over the clutch cover.

I also put several layers of duct tape on the lower corners of the fairing where they normally attach to the pipe covers. That's sufficient to keep them from showing the marks where they can kiss the track. These DO have corner clearance issues when running extreme but you can get a TON out of them, more than most think. It routinely surprised a LOT of riders at the track.


You Sir ROCK!
I read almost all of your posts and you amaze me! I hope one day I have the luck of meeting you. Till then Greatings and keep up the good work.
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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/19/2006 9:16:01 PM   
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Nice to hear from someone that rides this bike even harder than me! Only think I've done to the front is new seals and heavier oil. It seems okay right now, but I may experiment with the oil level sometime to stiffen it up a bit.

What I find odd is that you use peg bolts but you still scrape the exhaust covers? Ever since the first time that I had a bolt touch down and upset the rearend, I've run without bolts. My pegs and rear brake lever are worn down but I've yet to touch down on the exhaust.....I have, however tagged the left side of the centerstand which was a bit scary!

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Very nice dad! Looks like a lot of fun to be out on the track! Maybe I'll give it a go one of these days.


You'd love it!

In your pics, body position looks good. That's an item we work with newer riders on a LOT.

In those track pics you'll notice the pipe covers removed and centerstand removed. I leave the centerstand off at all times due to the left side arm but the pipe covers will flex and aren't as likely to upset you. The problem is more cosmetic, you'll grind right through them.

I raised the front with spacers to get the sag up to about 1 3/8" from the stock position of 2 1/8". I raised the fork oil level from factory recommended 6 7/8" to 4 3/4" to make the front springing more progressive and less prone to bottoming on hard braking.

I also take a bag of peg bolts to the track with me and grind them off every session. I use standard bolts, slightly shorter than stock, and put them in with a jam nut. I keep them in because they are a real good indicator that you're really close to the pipes which are rigid enough to pitch you. I've been up to the brake pedal nub which is now ground at an angle and also kissed the fairing at the bulge over the clutch cover.

I also put several layers of duct tape on the lower corners of the fairing where they normally attach to the pipe covers. That's sufficient to keep them from showing the marks where they can kiss the track. These DO have corner clearance issues when running extreme but you can get a TON out of them, more than most think. It routinely surprised a LOT of riders at the track.



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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/19/2006 9:49:24 PM   
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With the pipe covers in place, they scrape at the lowest point, almost a corner, straight back from the attachment point at the fairing. Unless there's a design change since '90/'91 but I don't think so. Mine have hit those corners and also one of the bolt button heads up on the can when they were attached and was my reason for removing the covers at the track.

When the peg's folding up I feel that and know how close I am. I consider the folding to be my reserve and knowing the realities of hitting hard parts, am reluctant to give that up. As soon as the bolts hit I feel it in my feet but still have some peg folding room as my reserve. With the pipe covers removed you get a little more room. By the time you're into the brake pedal you really are playing with fire. The pipe's literally fractions of an inch off the road. A bump could do it. The parts that give or fold aren't the trouble. It's the rigid ones like the centerstand or cans that ARE trouble!

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/19/2006 10:02:23 PM   
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I understand what you mean. You use the "feelers" just as they are intended......but for me, I just don't feel comfortable with them. I was never able to ride as hard as I do, until I got my leather pants. I much prefer to use my knee as a feeler than the peg bolts. With my knee, and the tip of my toe, I can get a very good feel for just how much lean I've got left. I suppose it's just different strokes for different folks.


<<== For example, in this pic, my knee is down and I'm able to tell that my toe/peg/exhaust are close to the ground aswell.....


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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/19/2006 10:37:11 PM   
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You Sir ROCK!
I read almost all of your posts and you amaze me! I hope one day I have the luck of meeting you. Till then Greatings and keep up the good work.
Paul


Well, thank-you for the kind words. If there's any truth to it, it's really just the result of 37 years of passion for riding, to the point of obsession.

If you ever find your way to the states, don't hesitate to contact me. Western Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh area. Maybe we could even hook you up with a ride. There's always a few bikes around here and we're not far from the West Virginia mountain roads. Great riding there.

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/20/2006 5:41:33 AM   
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Nice lines there Dad.  You done this before? ;)

I took the hero balls off the pegs.  I dunno if I was just unlucky, but I have had then dig in and unsettle the bike, especially on uneven back roads.  But they are not needed anyway as I have a big feet and I go through a few pairs of toe sliders.

Just out of curiosity, do you ever hang right off the bike on the track?  I find the big bike seems to be a bit more stable if I hang off less compared to a sportsbike.

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RE: How hard do you push your heavyweight? (Post Pics!) - 12/20/2006 8:23:36 AM   
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Just out of curiosity, do you ever hang right off the bike on the track? I find the big bike seems to be a bit more stable if I hang off less compared to a sportsbike.


That's just the opposite of me. The more I ride the bike the more it seems I need to hang off in order to get the bike to do what I want and feel comfortable. If I sit more centered over the bike, it makes the bike lean more, whereas, if I hang way off, the bike can stand more upright and maintain a better contact patch.

Here's my best example...

Both pictures are off me in the same corner, at the same speed (85-90mph). Only difference is my body position and the lean angle of the bike. Notice in the first I'm over the bike and the peg is almost down. In the second pic I'm hanging way off and the bike is more upright.




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