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RE: low end engine lag - 9/5/2005 11:23:07 AM   
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no more than 15mins work, take it easy with the plastic clips on the throttle bodies don`t wanna break ay tabs.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/6/2005 4:18:52 PM   
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i dont know if anyone is looking for or knows where to find a pc3, but i got mine from the honda shop. i highly advise that no one does the same. it was 390$, ouch. the next day i found it at dennis kirk for 316 plus free shipping. just to let you all know

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/7/2005 6:09:29 PM   
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ok, so i got the pc3 installed. now, im a little clueless. i installed a jardine slip-on and that is all of the performance stuff that it has recieved. so back to the low end engine lag...what am i going to have to adjust to get it to run properly?

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/7/2005 8:48:49 PM   
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I know that Powercommander does not have a custom map for the Jardine muffler. Did you download anything from Powercommander? Sounds to me that now you have to have it dyno.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/7/2005 11:47:32 PM   
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I'd suggest downloading maps for other slip ons and try them out. Still unsure why your bike lugs. Can you do a burnout on your bike? If so, then next time you launch pretend that you're doing a burnout only don't squeeze the brake.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/8/2005 12:17:55 PM   
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i got the pc3 installed yesterday, and the bike actually still started. i cant tell a big difference yet, but i havent done anything except try to mess with the buttons to lean or enrich the fuel. since they dont have a jardine map, ill try to find a pipe that is similar and use that map. im about to check out the website now and see what they have

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/8/2005 4:05:48 PM   
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P.S. I e-mailed Jardine ... we'll see if they have customer service

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/8/2005 9:01:52 PM   
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i emailed them too, they said they dont have a jardine map, but the micron will be close. im going to try loading it tommorow and re-post with my results

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/9/2005 9:35:51 AM   
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i added the micron map. it was sooooo easy and took about 2 minutes. i havent ridden it yet, but im going out right now. i did notice that it smoothed out the idle. im pleased so far.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/9/2005 7:31:38 PM   
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i dont know what im looking for to change. i recalibrated the throttle position while running. loaded the micron map. and about instalation, i found that it helps if you have a spare set of hands. i took a very fine blade screwdriver and put it under the clip to release it. then i had a friend that was holding the tank up and he pulled the old injectors off. i still hold the opinion of the installation instructions being really bad. i havent checked the website for pics yet, but i managed to get it all. thanks for all the help. i still dont know much about how i will need to tune it. so im always looking for help.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/9/2005 8:12:34 PM   
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Did you disconnect the battery for thirty minutes? That will reset the computer so that the bike will accept the new mods. I am probably going to get flammed but here is how it was explained to me. A stock bike already broken in will operate just fine. Add a aftermarket muffler (which is suppose to increase air output) the bike will still think it has the stock pipe on and run normally. Performance is not what you expected so blank out the brain and make it relearn how to operate with the new mod. In your case do it after every mod you perform. Maybe somebody with technical knowledge can enlighten me but it make sence and wasn't that hard to perform.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/9/2005 10:36:20 PM   
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I'm only aware of a few expensive cars that "learn" how you drive ... didn't know any bikes had that technology. Pulling the battery for 30 minutes certainly won't hurt anything but I have doubts that it'll really help either. Mine has really come alive on the low end since removing the hardware flapper stuff.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/22/2005 11:27:14 AM   
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i think the lag had something to do with the little flapper in the OEM pipe. i am thinking about taking the bike in to get it dyno'ed since the pipe and power commander addition.

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/22/2005 3:12:17 PM   
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You did put the mid pipe provided by Jardine. With thier pipe you will eliminate the exhaust valve.

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Sato rearsets Type 2
CRG black shorty levers
43 teeth Driven rear sprocket
Speedo Heeler

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RE: low end engine lag - 9/22/2005 11:23:34 PM   
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right. i meant that the lack of the valve (backpressure) is what started the whole thing, when i changed the pipe

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