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Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/16/2007 10:34:38 PM   
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I have a quick question, and hopefully a quick answer.  Has anyone tried, or seen favorable results to installing aftermarket clip-ons UNDER the triple tree?  I have a 1999 CBR F4 and I and looking at getting Vortex clipons.  The OEMs are on top, but I would really like to fit them down below if at all possible.  I have heard of the master cylinder causing all kinds of problems.  Input and/ or advice would be most helpful!

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 9:18:24 AM   
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I think it has been said here that there isnt room for low clip-ons, you wont be able to fully turn the handlebars without them running into stuff.  That said, i've heard that if you want a few inches lower, you can install 1999 R6 clip-ons and it just about maxes out what room there is.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 9:57:28 AM   
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'99 R6's have 43mm fork tubes?   I look into it, thank you.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 11:17:59 AM   
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Here a couple threads that talk about clips.  I cant find the one that mentioned the '99 R6, though... i know i saw it here someplace...

http://www.cbrforum.com/m_840/tm.htm
 
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_156402/tm.htm
 
I think you can forget about them being below the TT.  Even the aftermarket ones that change the angle and lower then a few inches are on top, there just isnt enough room on our bikes.



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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 12:22:41 PM   
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actually, F4 and F4i are very similar in those areas. you should be able to do so but as said before, you won't be able to fully turn your bars. you'll also need to remove the air duct covers. woodyracing mounts his below the triples.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 12:30:21 PM   
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Yeah, I thought under would be out of the question, but I felt like asking anyway.  I have a decent cycle salvage near me, and come february (when they open) i'll do a little seek and destroy in Ye Olde Salvage Yarde.  Is there a possibility of taking a dremel to the upper fairing to get clearance?  If the master must be replaced, then so be it, but I would prefer to keep whats on it. 

As long as I have your attention, and you seem to know what you are talking about... 

I removed the fairing piece behing the front wheel, the cooling seems to be a little better than with it in.  I know the piece was designed to force air into the radiator and cooling system, but it would appear to be running efficiently without it.  Do you know of anyone else who has removed this piece?  If it is proven better intact, I will put it back in.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 2:05:43 PM   
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that black v-fairing thing? yes it's designed to direct air to the radiator...i don't have it one cause it's a pita to put on and take off...makes swapping fairings that much faster.

when you riding and air is flowing, it'll push loads of air to the radiator...the only time you need to worry about overheating and not getting enough air for cooling is when you're stopped at a light. in that case...the V-fairing is not going to direct any air at all.

as far as clearance, you can hack your fairing, but the rubber ram air ducts are still there. you may have to adjust your starter so it points differently and doesn't hit the top of the air duct. as far as hitting plastics, such as the upper or fairing stay, if you mount below the triple you should clear both. i know if you mount above, you'll have issues with it clearing the fairing stay...so most go with aftermarket fairing stay...or aftermarket radial style brakes.

woodyracing runs his below the triple. great for tracking and stuff, but sucks if you have to turn in parking lots, at the pit, etc. just know that if you mount above the triples, it won't sit flush with the fork tube...it'll be a bit higher, but it's not really a safety issue...like your clip ons won't be ripped off if you torque them down properly. you'll still get an aggressive stance too.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 3:32:37 PM   
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if you are going to get that involved in modding your clipsand are willing to invest that much into it, you may as well sell the F4 and buy a 600RR for a thousand or so more, instead of pumping 500-1000 into the F4... imo.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 3:43:14 PM   
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ummm...it's really not much work or bling at all...parts can be had for cheap if bought used....and rerouting that stuff...nothing at all...



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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 4:18:38 PM   
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You think it can be done under $200?  If so, i'd look into it.  Although, maybe not if it would make street riding a bitch.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 5:08:23 PM   
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In real numbers, the clip-ons can be had for $130 or less.  And labor time to put them on in place of the OEM's is marginal.  I am planning on just installing them above the TT's.

A. WAY less struggle to get them on.
3. because it is my do-everything bike. 

I ride on the street to school and work more often than blasting the twisties with buddies.  If lean angle is too aggressive it will take away from the functionality.  I don't want to hash anything unless it is absolutely needed, and anything directly affecting the ram air ducts is out of the question.

As far as the V-fairing, I think i'll just leave it out, unless I experiance troubles keeping her cool enough.

If I were just riding this bike hard all the time (and were installing a steering dampener), I would look into ways to install them under the TT's.  But a serious issue comes to mind- tank slappers.  If I have all that stuff in place that would hinder lock to lock turns, what happens in the event of a tank slapper?  Does the stuff smash your fairings?  Break off master cylinders?  If mounting them under the triple trees would cause any of these things, (without a steering dampener) it too is out of the question.


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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 5:12:00 PM   
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Flip:

I was just taking a gander at your pics, and noticed the rear brake cylinder looks like a Red Bull can.  That is really cool!  May I inquire as to how you did that?  And if I may do the same on my bike? 

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 5:42:04 PM   
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I'll admit it, i stole the idea from someone else here.  He said it was cool when i asked him, as he stole it from another site, so feel free.  It is easy to do.  You have to cut a slit in the can all the way to the bottom and half way through the bottom so it can fold over itself as you tighten up the clasp.  The can is slightly larger than the cylinder, so if you just cut the top off, slip it over, and tighten up the clasp it will crush and dent the can and look bad.

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 5:44:19 PM   
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that's not the rear brake cyclinder...it's the gas charge for his rear shock.

flip is correct...this wouldn't be advised for a street bike where you take it to school, etc.
keep them up top...

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RE: Clip-ons below the Triple Tree? - 1/17/2007 5:47:42 PM   
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I put a set of vortex clipons on my f4, theyre still on top of the triple clamp but they do lower the bars a little bit as well as push them farther out from the stock position if that was they reason you wanted to mount them under the clamp.

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