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RE: Gasolina - 5/3/2007 11:47:39 AM
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aaron1085
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yea thanks tahoe.. im so glad i can sell my liver to pay to put 87 in my truck... seeing that i get 35mpg on the bike, i'll put 93 in just to have peice of mind.
and on a side note, im working on selling my truck to get a car that gets better MPG, so i dont support these glutonistic money grubbing oil companies, im doing my best to not help their deep,deep pockets.
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RE: Gasolina - 5/3/2007 12:10:05 PM
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oh OT but...mang...venezuela govt. just came in and took all the oil fields under their control! it's good for them...but bad for us! chevron had some action in that country...i think we'll get more and more screwed each day!
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RE: Gasolina - 5/3/2007 1:13:59 PM
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i will never put anything less than 93 in my tank unless i cant find it which is very very rare
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RE: Gasolina - 5/3/2007 6:20:42 PM
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well, it could be good for us if H.Chavez wants to piss off Bush and his oil cronies and sell oil to us cheaper, but who knows.... should be an interesting summer.
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RE: Gasolina - 5/3/2007 7:07:03 PM
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I build motors every day. You get the most power by running the lowest octane fuel you can without detonation. It's that simple and you can do what you want with that info.
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RE: Gasolina - 5/3/2007 8:33:03 PM
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the way i figure it is regular fuel is for regular cars/trucks. Which hit rpms no higher than 5000-8000 rpms. rr's will turn 15,000 rpms. Something tells me thats not everyday regular thats premuim. Anything turning that fast i don't want pinging. least thats why i spend the extra $1-2 per tank
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RE: Gasolina - 5/3/2007 10:41:30 PM
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transam has a point..
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RE: Gasolina - 5/4/2007 9:35:11 AM
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Don't use anything less than premium, you have a high performance engine not a 1968 VW bug! Stick with what your owners maunual say's, should be 92 or higher...say's that for my 07'. Anything less can cause missfiring in the engine.
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RE: Gasolina - 5/4/2007 9:56:03 AM
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ORIGINAL: transambird_2000
the way i figure it is regular fuel is for regular cars/trucks. Which hit rpms no higher than 5000-8000 rpms. rr's will turn 15,000 rpms. Something tells me thats not everyday regular thats premuim. Anything turning that fast i don't want pinging. least thats why i spend the extra $1-2 per tank
i've never had pre-detonation in this engine when i run in the high RPMs, and i run nothing but 87. if it's going to ping @ high RPM, it's going to ping at low RPM too, just less often (because your engine speed is lower, duh).
gnpcola1: 92 PON or 92 RON? big difference...
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RE: Gasolina - 5/4/2007 10:22:20 AM
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well lets see... a few people just said on their 03,04 and 07 RR's it says run 92 or higher, so who is reading their manual's that say to run 87?
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RE: Gasolina - 5/4/2007 10:52:06 AM
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it's the rating used when it says 91 or 92, whether it's the reasearch octane number (RON) or the pump octane number (PON). RON reads higher than PON for the same gas.
as far as high rpms, etc...doesn't fall into the equation. you have to take into account things such as compression ratio, a/f ratio and timing. what if the stock ecu says to pull timing at 12K RPM? then using higher octane with do zelch as timing is pulled to reduce potential for predontation, etc.
i'm not saying don't use premium and only to use regular, etc. each bike is different than the next, and gas at one station/company may be crap compared to another.
so i'm saying to use the least amount of octane possible without predetonation. so start at 86, hear ping, go up to 89, etc.
stick the bikes on a dyno...and see the effects of pinging vs. no pinging with minimum octane required vs. more than enough octane. see which one makes more power.
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RE: Gasolina - 5/4/2007 3:49:01 PM
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knightslugger
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well lets see... a few people just said on their 03,04 and 07 RR's it says run 92 or higher, so who is reading their manual's that say to run 87?
i'm reading page 95 of the North American manual (Honda PN 00X31-MEE-6300) and it states in verbatim, "Your engine is designed to use any gasoline that has a pump octane number of 86 or higher. Gasoline pumps at service stations normally display the pump octane number. For information on the use of oxygenated fuels, see page 225."
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RE: Gasolina - 5/4/2007 9:17:03 PM
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I have a 07 cbr 600rr and my owner's manual say's I need to use premium unleaded 91 octane or higher. It also say's "We recommend that you use premium unleaded fuel because it produces fewer engine deposits and extends the life of exhaust system components. Using of lower octane gasoline can cause persistent "pinging" or "spark knock" (a loud rapping noise) which , if severe, can lead to engine damage.
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RE: Gasolina - 5/4/2007 9:23:49 PM
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I have a 07 cbr 600rr and my owner's manual say's I need to use premium unleaded 91 octane or higher. It also say's "We recommend that you use premium unleaded fuel because it produces fewer engine deposits and extends the life of exhaust system components. Using of lower octane gasoline can cause persistent "pinging" or "spark knock" (a loud rapping noise) which , if severe, can lead to engine damage.
Premium gasoline ≠ high Octane gasoline
"Premium" grade gasoline is something the gas companies came up with so that you'd think high octane fuel is the cat's ass.
< Message edited by knightslugger -- 5/4/2007 9:24:11 PM >
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RE: Gasolina - 5/5/2007 11:14:08 AM
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this stuff makes me smile every time!
(do what makes you feel good! who cares what I do. I just read the owners manual and follow what it says. if it said put peanut butter on the chain I would! do you know why? because the factory may not tell you how to get the parts to last the longest but they are not going to tell you to harm your bike or cause permature wear on something they have to fix out of there pocket! )
don't know if I posted this befor or not since this octain post comes up alot. anyway on the radio some idiot called in and said....
87 for 4cyl cars , 89 is for 6 cyl cars, 93 was for 8 cyl cars...... man did I laugh poor vipers have to go to the airport I guess sad thing was they belived him. just goes to show how dumb you can look if you don't do the research.
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