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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/29/2007 9:33:02 PM

01f4iGuy

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Im not sure if you were joking or not 01f4iguy, but here you go.

No you cannot use E85 gas in these bikes im guessing most ppl have not responded because their county does not carry this type of gas yet. E85 only works on i belive a few 06-07 Ford,GM and few Chevrolet cars, im not sure if their are others that have adopted this fuel technology but there might be. That type of gas has almost pure ethanol and requires a different way of burning. I dont beleive in the future that motorcycle companys will adopt the E85 technology. It would be nice though, whats the price for E85 in your city? ares is down to $1.22 right now.

To run E85 on cars that are not designed to run it, all you need it a big ass fuel pump big ass injectors, and something to tune it all together. Nothing more.

There are countless DSM's running E85 in their street cars, due to its high octane rating (approx. 105 oct). I was just wondering if the power commander would have enough control, to tune some huge injectors for the Ethanol.

Is it basically like a standalone ecu? Or is it more like piggy back ecu?

Last time I checked E85 was around $1.6X but im not sure how its been lately because I dont have an E85 station real close to me, and I dont have anything that runs on E85 yet.

< Message edited by 01f4iGuy -- 1/29/2007 9:37:26 PM >

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/29/2007 9:33:24 PM

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yea i installed the correct map i even installed that new thing they offered

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 5:48:39 AM

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So if I order it and have them set it up for sotck air with slip on jardine pipe, it should just be a matter of hooking it up without screwing with the adjustments physically on the commander? Or is there some fine tuning that needs to take place. BTW, this will be something I buy a month or so after I take it out of the garage so I can feel the positive or negative affects of this thing. If I put it on now, I probably won't recognize a difference cuz it will have been like 3 months before I ride again. If its not the snow, its the assload of sand the highway dept puts down

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 8:34:28 AM

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Glocker - Actually when you unplug/disconnect your PC, your bikes ECU "returns" to the factory setting. So you could still hook it up right now and disconnect it at a later time... you'd see the differences that way too.

My PC is on its way right now. Unfortunately the snow and cold weather in Michigan isn't going to let up anytime soon... so I guess I'll have to sit on my bike in the garage, makes lots of "vroom, vroom" sounds and imagine how much better the "vrooms" are now that I've installed the PC

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 9:13:24 AM

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That would be cool to see someone running E85, I've also been looking into running that in my cars, but I may also consider trying it out on the bike if the PC is able to make enough adjustments. I think I'll start a new thread on that. Anyway, is anyone using the PC IIIr? I would like to be able to adjust timing maps, especially if I end up running E85 in the future. I've heard mixed reviews on it, does anyone have any personal experience with it?

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 9:29:26 AM

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Glocker - Actually when you unplug/disconnect your PC, your bikes ECU "returns" to the factory setting. So you could still hook it up right now and disconnect it at a later time... you'd see the differences that way too.

But if when you disconnect it how does it save the information. I may just order one of these when I get my paycheck from EMS this week.

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 12:54:01 PM

Glocker23

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I ordered it from Fuelmotousa. Damn this shit is an addiction, It will come all set for the Jardine pipe I have on it, I am psyched. Probably Friday...weekend project. Thanks a lot guys

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 1:07:57 PM

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I stand corrected, sir.

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 3:08:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Glocker23

quote:

ORIGINAL: jjkukla

Glocker - Actually when you unplug/disconnect your PC, your bikes ECU "returns" to the factory setting. So you could still hook it up right now and disconnect it at a later time... you'd see the differences that way too.

But if when you disconnect it how does it save the information.

The PC works by modifying the signals from the ECU to the injectors. The ECU of the bike is never changed. The PC remembers the map you upload to it with memory just like any other electronic device, so you can remove the PC (= bike stock) or insert it (= bike with map uploaded to the PC).

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/30/2007 11:38:23 PM

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we tried putting mine on tonight and ran into promblems... like the powercommander it self wasnt gettign power.. but we hooked it up 2 a 9vold and it light right up... so we think its the ground on he commander... we had it hook right on the battery anyone wnw whats going on? everythign was hooked up right but it wont get power therefore the bike wouldnt start so had 2 go back 2 stock

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/31/2007 12:00:26 AM

gittinitup

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there are two spots the power commander can fit but only one spot is correct which is up toward the headlight on driver side!! if you hook it uo to other spot bike wont run!

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/31/2007 12:07:36 AM

hondaf4i

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what? near headlight...........wat are u talking about dude im talking about the power commander getting power ...the ground wire...

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/31/2007 12:17:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: hondaf4i
we tried putting mine on tonight and ran into promblems... like the powercommander it self wasnt gettign power.. but we hooked it up 2 a 9vold and it light right up... so we think its the ground on he commander... we had it hook right on the battery anyone wnw whats going on? everythign was hooked up right but it wont get power therefore the bike wouldnt start so had 2 go back 2 stock

Everything the PC needs (except the ground) is in the harness. If you grounded it to the battery, per the instructions, and plugged it into the correct harness, it should work. Check to make sure that you have it fully plugged in, and grounded well. It's almost foolproof. It's possible that you got a bad unit, but seems unlikely.

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/31/2007 12:22:13 AM

hondaf4i

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ya thats what everyone was saying because we double checked man....im going to take it the bike shop i bought it from and see what they have to say tommrow hopefully they wont charge out the butt to look at it

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RE: '06 F4i, meet Mr. PCIIIusb - 1/31/2007 12:25:35 AM

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yes toward head light under the black flap thats attached to your airbox by 3 screws, you pull that flap up and there is the connector!!

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ORIGINAL: hondaf4i

what? near headlight...........wat are u talking about dude im talking about the power commander getting power ...the ground wire...

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