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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/8/2007 8:25:01 PM   
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Four other friends and myself all started out with brand new 600's.  Unless you are an absolute spastic retard, just go ahead and get the 600.  Who says you have to go balls to the wall from the get go?  You can get outrun by a vespa, 250, etc...on these things if you want to.  Dont listen to any of these people, get a used 600, so when you drop it you wont be out much money.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/8/2007 9:30:26 PM   
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tell us how you really feel!

you've been riding 6 months. you do not have enough saddle time to make that claim. with an attitude like that, it's only time before you get bitten...

i bet given the same saddletime, one starting on a 250 will outride someone starting on a 600.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/8/2007 9:46:24 PM   
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You have got to be kidding me.  If you are somewhat athletic and not stupid, you minimize risks involved in riding these.  I still do not understand what the big deal is about 600's, yes they are fast and get that everyone is out to kill you, you will be fine.  If you claim to be so experienced, yes you might outrun me.  That is exactly the point I was making, know what it is that you are riding and respect it.  By the way, I can already ride wheelies and posted a record track time at my local track.  So dont speak to me like these are hard to ride, its just until recently that non dorks started getting these so dont expect to be the fastest guy at the track any longer.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/8/2007 11:07:17 PM   
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You have got to be kidding me.  If you are somewhat athletic and not stupid, you minimize risks involved in riding these.  I still do not understand what the big deal is about 600's, yes they are fast and get that everyone is out to kill you, you will be fine.  If you claim to be so experienced, yes you might outrun me.  That is exactly the point I was making, know what it is that you are riding and respect it.  By the way, I can already ride wheelies and posted a record track time at my local track.  So dont speak to me like these are hard to ride, its just until recently that non dorks started getting these so dont expect to be the fastest guy at the track any longer.

Tell me your not serious.
Does it really take that much talent to go fast in a straight line or wheelie a bike with a 100hp? It's funny that you say there not hard to ride cause ask anyone outside of your local track that can REALLY ride and they will tell it is VERY hard to ride these bikes fast outside of a straight line.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/9/2007 2:35:38 AM   
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Do you have any idea where I ride?  This whole state is full of twisties, state funded "SCENIC DRIVES"!  You people have made me wish I had bought a GSXR!  At least there are a few people on their site that  know what they are talking about.  A professional racer lives across the street from me and has taught me more than you could understand.  His everyday bike is Honda, this is why I got one.  You dont need a track or even on a track, the best lessons are to follow someone better than you and just pay attention.  I guess my point is to just get out and ride it.  I LOVE MY HONDA AND IT PISSES ME OFF TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE RECOMMENDING OTHER BIKES!!!!!!!!!  Sorry for the rants!

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/9/2007 5:47:00 AM   
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It's fine to love honda, and 90% of us here ride honda... but you have to look at what the poster is asking and answer without that bias. If the best bike for them is a kawasaki the tell them that, not some hogwash about only honda 600cc+ bikes.

It pisses me off that people are so stuck on recommending the bike they have to new riders....

Ask your professional racer friend what his first bike was... I bet it wasn't a Honda 600.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/9/2007 10:53:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: arkansashog

You people have made me wish I had bought a GSXR!  At least there are a few people on their site that  know what they are talking about.  A professional racer lives across the street from me and has taught me more than you could understand.  His everyday bike is Honda, this is why I got one.  You dont need a track or even on a track, the best lessons are to follow someone better than you and just pay attention.  I guess my point is to just get out and ride it.  I LOVE MY HONDA AND IT PISSES ME OFF TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE RECOMMENDING OTHER BIKES!!!!!!!!!  Sorry for the rants!


why don't you sell your bike and get a GSXR like the rest of the squids then? cause surely you won't listen...and for you to come in here bashing other people's opinions like that...not just disagreeing...and then going to list your "experience"...it just shows you have something to prove. not calling you a squid...but i sure do see signs of one.

good for your state with all the scenic twisties...good that your neighbor is a racer...mine is a lawyer...does that mean i know how to practice law?

ride wheelies all day? here...a cookie for your mad stunna skillz...



set track record at your local track? um...no pro racers ever hit up that track or what? AND...running off the track and then proceeding to offroad it to the otherside back to the starting line doesn't really count as record time.

bottom line...a truly responsible rider will start small and then go bigger with experience...most don't do that...and while you'll still get better and progress...you won't progress as fast or get your skills at tuned in as if you were to start smaller and then go bigger.

don't come in here blasting away...cause it's not appreciated...i don't care if you're super duper thugged athlete...you don't have much experience...and that WILL bite you one day...so you better wear your gear. come in here blasting and you will receive the same.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/9/2007 5:09:20 PM   
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good that your neighbor is a racer...mine is a lawyer...does that mean i know how to practice law?

 Can you help me out with a couple of tickets?

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/9/2007 5:16:54 PM   
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I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought the 600 was a piece and slow?!?!?!?!?

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/9/2007 5:20:36 PM   
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gotta love this forum.  I didn't think that starting this thread will bring so much action...lol.  I was really thinking about starting on a cbr too, but now I'm not because I listen to what experianced riders said on this thread about how beginners should start on a small bike...which is a good thing mand take the MSF course.  a cbr can wait but your brain can't.  All beginners riders need to start on a small bike.  I know a few people who started on a 600 or bigger bikes and they all wrecked.  A ninja250 or a ex500 is a good beginner bike. 

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/9/2007 5:23:10 PM   
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not saying that you can't start on a 600...you can...and many do...but the 'smart and safe' way would be something smaller....i dunno about 250 though...maybe 500.

but it's just people coming in and saying it's perfectly fine to do so...it's NOT perfectly fine...and those who claim to master it or have it down after riding less than 1 year?!?!? two, three, etc...there's always tons to learn.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/10/2007 1:29:37 AM   
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Arkansashog -- If Honda made a great sport bike 250, you'd find ALL of us likely to recommend it!  Unfortunately Kawasaki is the only sport bike 250 choice out there.  One question:  Have you ever actually ridden a Kaw 250 Ninja?

I'm a pro-driving (not riding) instructor on the side.  I've never found that anyone who was a noobie and bragged about having a track record somewhere was telling the whole truth.  Sorry!  Been around too long to fall for that one.

If you really were learning from a pro racer type, I think it would show....meaning, you wouldn't think you already know it all.  You wouldn't be so quick to dis a guy's great judgment in starting out smaller & working up.  See all this stuff the experienced guys here are recommending isn't new...isn't rocket science either.  It's sound advice honed out of hard experience & sometimes painful lessons learned.  The accomplished racers I know would be saying exactly the same thing & applauding the guys good judgment as a new rider starting smaller, gain experience, then move up.  Yeah like why don't they just hand rookies an F1 car?  Why do they start in Formula Atlantic or VW or Mazda, etc?  Why do NASCAR rookies start in ARCA or BUSH then move to CUP? 

We're talking about peoples' well-being & safety & LIFE here man!!

You might think some of us sound like wimps or something - recommending starting small & then moving up.  I can assure you that I'm far from it.  I fly jets, fly hard aerobatics, race cars & ride a 600RR as hard as I safely can.  I think you'd find if you went for a little ride alongside of quite a few here like TahoeSC and 13BRSXSRR, etc., you'd probably find it just a wee bit difficult to keep up.  I suspect you'd be off the back riding with me too.  How do I know?  I've seen your kind before.  They sound just like ya.

Wise up!  Before we hear/read about ya getting smashed in a bad wreck - cause that's the other part of the know it all deal in case you haven't found out yet.






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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/13/2007 1:25:48 AM   
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great advices

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/13/2007 2:47:17 AM   
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honed out of hard experience & sometimes painful lessons learned

Ain't that the truth.

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RE: from a ninja250 to a cbr600rr? - 2/14/2007 9:52:43 AM   
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I have to agree that the 4 stroke 250's are a great bike to learn on, but I dont recommend them for commuting or Highway use. I found them considerably under powered on the highway. Left me feeling like a turtle that cant get out of the way of a cage. Personally, I would recomend an older 2 stroke to learn on. Light forgiving powerful and inexpensive to repair. Save your money for apparel and repairs. Once you have experience under your belt ( that includes school time, even pro's attend school ) then think about going to a larger bike. If you are into the twisties the weight to HP of a two stroke is hard to beat considering the costs.

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