RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup)
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RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup) - 9/4/2007 5:15:08 PM
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Blue Fox
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I would never run the ballast power off the stock headlight wiring. This is a big no-no in HID retrofitting.
Use the headlight wiring to activate a 12V spst relay which is directly connected to the battery at all times. The headlight wiring simply triggers the relay. This way you have proper gauge wiring to your HID with little voltage or current drop. You risk a fire this way you've done the wiring.
The HID ballasts have relays built into them (Just about all aftermarket kits do), which means there is no need to add an additional relay. These kits are designed as "plug and play" from the stock headlight harness wiring.
The only thing my custom harness did was extend the wiring from the ballast to the igniters (which I don't have anymore, I installed the newer style kit.)
Completely new write up coming later on tonight!
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RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup) - 9/4/2007 5:56:18 PM
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DR.ZED
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You completely misunderstood me, which tells me you don't understand what I'm saying.
You are running the BALLAST power from a STOCK wiring. This can create a dangerous current load on the STOCK wiring.
Instead you run heavier gauge wiring DIRECTLY from a relay to the BALLAST which is connected DIRECTLY to the battery. The trigger for this relay is the smaller stock headlight wiring.
This way, there is NEVER a chance of voltage drop through the circuit... voltage drop through your headlight switch (crash and burn).
Ya dig?
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RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup) - 9/4/2007 8:27:38 PM
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Blue Fox
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quote:
ORIGINAL: DR.ZED
You completely misunderstood me, which tells me you don't understand what I'm saying.
You are running the BALLAST power from a STOCK wiring. This can create a dangerous current load on the STOCK wiring.
Instead you run heavier gauge wiring DIRECTLY from a relay to the BALLAST which is connected DIRECTLY to the battery. The trigger for this relay is the smaller stock headlight wiring.
This way, there is NEVER a chance of voltage drop through the circuit... voltage drop through your headlight switch (crash and burn).
Ya dig?
Yep, I misunderstood your previous post.
It's really unnecessary though, being that all the newer style HID kits have on-board shut-off's to protect against that sort of thing (which I have yet to have one shut-off on me). I know about the increase in current draw during the first few seconds, and then draws less power than regular bulbs there-on-out, and the possibility of voltage drop, and I researched all this before installing my HID kit on my bike (to make sure I knew I wouldn't melt any wires like I've experienced before doing other projects.) These are great little plug-and-play kits that are simply that, plug-and-play.
You are correct that bypassing the stock wiring and creating your own harness is a good idea, but it's really unnecessary with these newer style HID kits.
Thanks for the tip anyway though.
< Message edited by Blue Fox -- 9/4/2007 8:39:16 PM >
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RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup) - 9/4/2007 10:02:42 PM
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Blue Fox
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NEW WRITE UP FOR NEWER STYLE HID KITS NOW UP HERE...........
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_379249/tm.htm
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RE: HID Installation (for older style HID kits) - 2/5/2008 3:50:21 PM
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travisgarrison
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Blue, do you have any pics of the beam pattern? I've seen pics looking at the headlights, but that doesn't do anything. I need to see pics of the HID setup looking at a wall or something. I'm curious how crisp the HID beam pattern is when compared to the OEM Halogen pattern.
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RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup) - 2/5/2008 5:35:39 PM
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aaron1085
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pretty sure Fox suggested the 6 and 8K
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RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup) - 2/6/2008 5:40:31 AM
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StreetPower
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i'd say 5 or 6k, not 8k!
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RE: HID INSTALLATION (UPDATED: Feb 27-Wire cleanup) - 2/7/2008 8:28:59 AM
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Hoosier1104
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Good write up Blue but damn it man I am almost done rebuilding my F2 and now you got me thinking that a HID kit would be a good way to go since everything is already off the bike. Damn it man!!!!!!  My wife is going to kill me with my own bike. She is a understanding woman, hopefully. Good write though.
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