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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/21/2007 7:44:38 PM   
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And you haven't lived until you've taken a deuce deuce in da bunghole!


Haha, that may be true, but I think I'll pass on boofin a deuce.... shootin up vodka is the way to go!

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/22/2007 12:20:42 AM   
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Isn't is true that it won't make it to first if you just try to rattle down through the gears without letting the clutch spin between them?  This is how most people end up bending shift forks no?  Someone set me straight.


As far as I know, skipping gears is not a problem when done correctly.  just be careful when letting off the clutch if you skip gear because of the drastic change of RPMs.  5th gear at 7,000 RPMS and you shift to 3rd. You could be running close to 12 - 13,000 when you let the clutch out. if you can image that happening, your rear wheel will lose traction at that drastic of a change. if your bike is equipped with a slipper clutch (which i doubt, cuz your in the F3 section) you don't really have to worry, because the slipper clutch allows the clutch to spin with out spining your rear tire.

Does this answer your question? I don't know.

Give me a situations and i'll break it down for you. is that better?

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/22/2007 12:34:46 AM   
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How about answering my question.  I seriously want to know what 5% of my advice or information was correct.

If we're here to help, that is.  If we're just gonna poke sticks at each other then fvck it - let's leave the keyboards at home.

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/22/2007 12:22:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KidCr3nshaw

How about answering my question.  I seriously want to know what 5% of my advice or information was correct.



I wasn't saying that 95% of your knowledge is wrong. I'm just saying that there could be a margin of error since neither of us are mechanics.

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/22/2007 12:22:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KidCr3nshaw

How about answering my question.  I seriously want to know what 5% of my advice or information was correct.

If we're here to help, that is.  If we're just gonna poke sticks at each other then fvck it - let's leave the keyboards at home.
 

Uh oh, are you E-threatening me? Oh god no. FYI Missiouri is no wheres near Maine chump.

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/22/2007 7:41:12 PM   
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I would go as far to say 95% of Kid's knowledge is wrong.


Maybe I read it wrong. 

DD, dude - stick a sock in it.  No one was even talking to you. 

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/22/2007 10:11:56 PM   
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I cant believe I just read all of that, this forum is great!

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/23/2007 1:27:44 AM   
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As far as I know, skipping gears is not a problem when done correctly.  just be careful when letting off the clutch if you skip gear because of the drastic change of RPMs.  5th gear at 7,000 RPMS and you shift to 3rd. You could be running close to 12 - 13,000 when you let the clutch out. if you can image that happening, your rear wheel will lose traction at that drastic of a change. if your bike is equipped with a slipper clutch (which i doubt, cuz your in the F3 section) you don't really have to worry, because the slipper clutch allows the clutch to spin with out spining your rear tire.

Does this answer your question? I don't know.

Give me a situations and i'll break it down for you. is that better?

No thats just fine, I get the whole rpm thing, i am fairly mechanically inclined, just new bikes.  I was just thinking that if you had to come to a stop quick and were stoped in 5th gear if you were to rattle down the gears to find 1st it would get hung up in second.   My buddies F2 is like that and someone told me that if you don't downshift sequentially that you can end up bending a shift fork. They were saying you should always spin the clutch a little in every gear on the way down. 

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/23/2007 1:41:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ssnowman

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ORIGINAL: LlanoSV


As far as I know, skipping gears is not a problem when done correctly.  just be careful when letting off the clutch if you skip gear because of the drastic change of RPMs.  5th gear at 7,000 RPMS and you shift to 3rd. You could be running close to 12 - 13,000 when you let the clutch out. if you can image that happening, your rear wheel will lose traction at that drastic of a change. if your bike is equipped with a slipper clutch (which i doubt, cuz your in the F3 section) you don't really have to worry, because the slipper clutch allows the clutch to spin with out spining your rear tire.

Does this answer your question? I don't know.

Give me a situations and i'll break it down for you. is that better?

No thats just fine, I get the whole rpm thing, i am fairly mechanically inclined, just new bikes.  I was just thinking that if you had to come to a stop quick and were stoped in 5th gear if you were to rattle down the gears to find 1st it would get hung up in second.   My buddies F2 is like that and someone told me that if you don't downshift sequentially that you can end up bending a shift fork. They were saying you should always spin the clutch a little in every gear on the way down. 


If you buddy is having problems going down to first at a stop, then tell him to let the clutch out slowly while putting pressure on teh shifter to go into first, and when it hits the engagement point, the tranny will go into first....if that makes any sense lol

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/23/2007 3:25:43 AM   
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IMHO - if your at a complete stop, in say 5th gear, and shift to 1st, to prepare for the take off, you should bend a shift fork.

I'd do this on occasion with my girls 250 and it hasn't had a problem yet.

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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/23/2007 11:31:41 AM   
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I have no issues going into first while moving. Goes right in.



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RE: Shifting into First.. - 3/23/2007 12:22:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KidCr3nshaw

How about answering my question.  I seriously want to know what 5% of my advice or information was correct.

If we're here to help, that is.  If we're just gonna poke sticks at each other then fvck it - let's leave the keyboards at home.
                             maybe you guys should go meet somewhere and show each other how its supposed to be done... then report here who was right...lol

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