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CCT or something worse - 9/18/2005 2:07:43 PM   
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Recently when riding my bike, I noticed that periodically the oil light would come on when I came to a stop. I had always meant to check it when I get it back home but since the light never stayed on, it was out of site out of mind. Well, finally when going about 115 on the highway, the bike started to lose power then I heard this "ticking" noise. I pulled off and finally checked the oil (which I had changed about 2500 miles ago). To my surprise the dipstick was bone dry. Even still, the oil light never stayed on.

I managed to get it home. When I drained the oil, of the 4 qts that it takes, only about a half of quart came out . I've never seen oil spots in my driveway nor have I been burning it. Where did it all go?!?!?


I changed the filter and added 4 new quarts. The ticking stopped so I thought the problem was solved but when I took it for a test run, it came back. The noise coincides with the RPMs. In other words, while at idle its "tick tick tick tick" - but when I rev it up its "tickticktickticktick" (I should put a .wav file on here :)

Since it's almost the end of the season I figure I'll work on it during the off season. I've seen PLENTY of post saying that this noise (or something similar) is caused by a faulty CCT. I'm going to order the APE manual CCT and pray that works.

Has anyone else seen this?

Thanks,

m.
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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/19/2005 7:21:30 PM   
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Well if you engine oil light comes on that means the engine has lost oil pressure. NEVER a good thing. If the light EVER came on for me I would shut if off that second and check the oil. Even though it didn't stay on, it still didn't have pressure when the light was on. If it was for to long it could cause major engine damage. Hopefully everything is okay. The tick could be a valve or bearing that was damaged because of the low oil. It is very hard to say if there is anything wrong with the engine. Time will tell. I have a 98 and it has a tick just like you mentioned. It gets faster as the rpm's go up. It has around 14000 miles on it. It could be my cct or a valve. I put a new cct but it still does it. I might try a manual cct. This winter I will shim my valves and see if thats the problem. I really hope your bike is ok. Get in the habit of checking your oil every week or so. Best of luck

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/20/2005 1:14:43 AM   
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Thanks for the concern. Yeah, I've already been reprimanded like a scolded child for not checking the oil by my other riding buddies This is my first bike, so I guess it never dawned on me to check the life blood of something that revs at 15,000 RPM!! I ordered a manual CCT today and it should be in by the end of the week. I'll install it and let y'all know how it works out.

In the words of Florida Evans... "DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!!"

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/20/2005 8:30:26 PM   
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i don't know how to address your light issue. about your oil though, have you done any modifications with the air recycling tube? on the top right of your engine there is a fat hose that reroutes air in the engine back into your carbs. check to see if you have an oil film accumulation in that area. that could be where your oil loss is coming from. oil evap loss is not good.

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/20/2005 8:32:02 PM   
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can you send me the info on where you ordered your manual CCT? i'm considering one for my current f2 due to previous experiences with my past f2. how much did you pick one up for?

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/21/2005 10:07:52 AM   
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quote:

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can you send me the info on where you ordered your manual CCT? i'm considering one for my current f2 due to previous experiences with my past f2. how much did you pick one up for?

rc51_sp2@hotmail.com




Here is where I ordered it from:

http://www.cbrzone.com/sprockets.html

They do not have a way of ordering online, so I had to call - 818-842-4952. They are in California and do not open until 9:00amPST.

Hopefully mine will be in tomorrow or Friday

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/24/2005 10:48:54 AM   
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...it's something worse!!

Well, the APE mCCT came in yesterday and I threw it on immediately. Unfortunately, that was NOT the problem. Once I removed the old hydraulic one, put the new manual one on and started it up to adjust it, I heard the other sound that everyone was referring to. Definitely two different distinct sounds. Without the CCT, the bike sure does sound like a diesel truck! Once I adjusted the mCCT, the diesel sound went away but only to find out that it was just masking the original “ticking” sound. Ah well, I’m only out 50 bucks, and at least I won’t have to worry about it when the old one goes bad.

So I am back to square one. Guess I must have done some internal damage and it’s time to start stripping the motor down. This ought to keep me out of trouble during the off season.

I’m considering just replacing the entire cylinder head. May seem a bit drastic, but that way I should be able to fix any and everything that is wrong in there. I’ve priced a few used ones off the web and from the looks of it, I can probably get one for less than it would cost me to take it a shop just for them to tell me what they THINK it may be ($75/hr).

I’ll keep y’all posted.


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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/25/2005 10:30:15 AM   
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Yea like I said I think I have the same ticking noise with mine. I bought it at 11500 miles and it has had it ever sence. Its not very loud but it is there. I will check my valves in about a month when the weather turns cold. Hopefully it is nothing major.

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/25/2005 10:32:24 AM   
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Could you put on a .wav file on so I could listen to it. If it isnt that big of deal. Thanks

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/26/2005 2:23:08 PM   
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I'll hook my laptop up and see if I can capture it when I get home. I would have done it last night, but at 2:00am, it was too late for me to start her up and rev it without pissing the rest of the neighborhood off

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RE: CCT or something worse - 9/28/2005 11:39:57 PM   
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quote:

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Could you put on a .wav file on so I could listen to it. If it isnt that big of deal. Thanks


Well, here it is in all its, er, um...glory.

You can hear that there is obviously some power loss as well...like the engine is struggling a bit

It's not the best sound quality since I had to shrink it down to fit in the forum.

Also, it's a .zip file but I had to rename it to a .txt file in order to be able to post it. Just rename it to "motor1.zip" and extract.

...sigh.....



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RE: CCT or something worse - 10/1/2005 1:22:02 AM   
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Yea I hate to say it but I would be taking the engine apart. That sounds really bad. You can hardly hear my tink over the engine. Thanks for posting the sound file. Good luck with the bike. Keep us updated. For parts check out www.ronayersmotorsports.com They seem to have some of the best prices. And if you print the parts and prices on what you need, normally the local dealer will match their price.

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RE: CCT or something worse - 10/24/2007 2:45:30 PM   
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Hey... i have a 99 cavalier z24 and that same thing happened to it... sorry to tell you but my engine blew.. so i have to replace it. Now if you catch it quick then it might just be a bent rod(as in my case) but i didn't get it fixed so it ended up costing me a couple grand. Good Luck man

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RE: CCT or something worse - 10/24/2007 4:06:23 PM   
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I agree with the other guys on this, it needs to be torn down.  I wouldn't start it up because if there's a catastrophic failure, you'll have to replace additional components that might not have needed replacement.  You were your oil might have gone, into the coolant.  Of course, usually coolant also shows up in the oil as well.  Just a thought on where it might have gone.

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RE: CCT or something worse - 10/24/2007 5:07:26 PM   
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same absolute thing happened to my motor i tore it down and found bottom end to have normal wear im complety lost with it i dont know what a cct is but if you find out what it is please let me know it will help me get it back together and do something with it best of luck to you shit like that sucks.   

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